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== About Us ==
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We ask new travellers five questions:


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#Who are you?
#How did you get here?
#What can you do for Milliways?
#What can Milliways do for you?
#What are you good in which is not computers?


<h1>Events</h1>
=== What is Milliways? ===
Milliways is a group of information security specialists, which has appeared at several hacker camps in Europe and North America since 2003. We plan and build large installations and infrastructure, where we feed and host hundreds of hackers, providing a space for discussions and networking.


[[EMFCAMP2018]]
=== How did we get here? ===
A happy little accident, nobody quite remembers, but we're still here.


[[35c3]]
=== What can we do for you? ===
Milliways can offer a space for discussions, networking, and talks.
All over a nice beer, hot coffee, or fine whisky.


[[CCCamp 2019]]
=== What can you do for us? ===
Milliways is volunteer-run and always welcomes another helping hand.
We do a lot of things, whether you can cook, build-up, tear-down, clean-up, give a talk...


<h1>Other</h1>
=== What are we good at that is not computers? ===
Travellers of Milliways are experienced in all walks of life, from baking to photography, woodwork, and everything in between.
 
----
 
Now it's your turn, head over to [[communications]] to contact us - don't forget your five answers.
 
<gallery>
File:Flags at emf2022.jpg
File:Dont panic.jpg
</gallery>
 
== Events ==
 
=== Future ===
 
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+ Future Events
|-
! Name !! Type !! When !! Location !! Link to event page !! Notes
|-
| [[38c3]] || Con || 27-30. 12. 2024  || Hamburg, Germany || https://events.ccc.de || this is a thing that year.
|-
| [[WHY_2025 | WHY2025]] || Camp || 08 - 12 August 2025  || Geestmerambacht, Netherlands || https://why2025.org/ || Next Milliways orga meeting on Nov 24th!
|-
| [[emfcamp 2026]] || Camp || May / June 2026  || Maybe Eastnor, UK || https://www.emfcamp.org/ || emfcamp 2026.
|-
| [[ToorCamp 2026]] || Camp || July 2026  || Maybe San Juan Islands, WA, USA || https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/|| toorcamp 2026
|-
| [[39c3]] || Con || 27-30. 12. 2026  || Hamburg, Germany? || https://events.ccc.de || Chaos Communication Congress 2026
|-
| [[CCCamp 2027]] || Camp || August 2027 || Brandenburg, Germany....? || hahaha. We'll see beginning of 2027 || Chaos Communuication Camp 2027. Very likely new location. Needs a new milliways concept.
|}
 
=== Present ===
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+ Present Events
|-
! Name !! Type !! When !! Location !! Link to event page !! Notes
|-
|}
 
=== Past ===
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+ Past Events
|-
! Name !! Type!! When !! Location !! Link to event page !! Notes || Travelers
|-
| [[ToorCamp 2024]] || Camp || 26-30 June 2024  || San Juan Islands, WA, USA || https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/|| ||
|-
| [[GPN Karlsruhe (GPN 22)]] || Con || 30.05 bis 02.06 2024 || HFG Karlsruhe || https://entropia.de/GPN22 || ||
|-
| [[emfcamp 2024]] || Camp || May 30th–June 2nd 2024  || Eastnor, UK|| https://www.emfcamp.org/ || emfcamp 2024. UK. Awesome. Workshop Tent, Dome and Kitchen. || 80 ||
|-
| [[37c3]] || Con || 27-30. 12. 2023  || Hamburg, Germany || https://events.ccc.de || this is a thing this year || 120 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 2023]] || Camp || 15-19 August 2023  || Mildenberg || https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/infos ||
|| 500+ ||
|-
| [[GPN Karlsruhe (GPN 21)]] || Con || 8-11 June 2023 || HFG Karlsruhe || https://entropia.de/GPN21 || || 16 ||
|-
| [[Easterhegg Hamburg (EH20)]] || Con || 7-10 April 2023 || https://www.kampnagel.de/ Hamburg || https://eh20.easterhegg.eu || || 20 ||
|-
| [[HiP-Berlin ]] || Con || 27-31 December 2022  || ETI above C-BASE. Berlin || https://hip-berlin.de|| Collaboration with lot's of hackspaces in Berlin, Freeside, Digitale Gesellschaft and more || 35 ||
|-
| [[Bornhack 2022]] || Camp || 3-10 August 2022  || Funen, Denmark || https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2022/ || || 8? ||
|-
| [[MCH 2022]] || Camp || 22 - 26 July 2022 || Scoutinglandgoed in Zeewolde, 55km east of Amsterdam || https://wiki.mch2022.org/Main_Page || || 70 ||
|-
| [[TOORCAMP 2022]] || Camp || 13 - 17 July 2022 || San Juan Islands, WA, USA || https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ || || unknown ||
|-
| [[EMFCAMP 2022]] || Camp || 2022 || Eastnor, UK || https://emfcamp.org || || 100+ ||
|-
| [[GPN 2022]] || Con || 2022 || ZKM, Karlsruhe, DE || https://entropia.de/GPN || || 12 ||
|-
| [[Toorcamp 2020]] || Camp || 2020 || USA || || This event was cancelled due to obvious reasons. || ||
|-
| [[EMFCAMP 2020]] || Camp || 2020 || UK || || This event was cancelled due to obvious reasons. || ||
|-
| [[36c3]] || Con || 2019 || CCL, Leipzig, DE || || || 200 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 2019]] || Camp || 2019 || Ziegeleipark Mildenberg near Zehdenick, DE || || || ca 500 ||
|-
| [[35c3]] || Con || 2018 || CCL, Leipzig, DE || || || 220 ||
|-
| [[EMFCAMP 2018]] || Camp || 2018 || Eastnor Castle Deer Park, Herefordshire || || || ca 100 ||
|-
| [[TOORCAMP 2018]] || Camp || 2018 || Doe Bay, San Juan Islands, Washington, USA || || || unknown ||
|-
| [[34c3]] || Con || 2017 || CCL, Leipzig, DE ||  || || ca 170 ||
|-
| [[SHA 2017]] || Camp || 2017 || Scoutinglandgoed Zeewolde, NL || || The Dutch Hacker Camp Still Hacking Anyway 2017 || ca 100
|-
| [[33c3]] || Con || 2016 || CCH, Hamburg, DE || || || 120 ||
|-
| [[TOORCAMP 2016]] || Camp || 2016 || Doe Bay, San Juan Islands, Washington, USA || || || ca 50 ||
|-
| [[EMFCAMP 2016]] || Camp || 2016 || Loseley Park, Guildford || || || 45 ||
|-
| [[32c3]] || Con || 2015 || CCH, Hamburg, DE || || || ca 150 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 2015]] || Camp || 2015 || Ziegeleipark Mildenberg near Zehdenick || || || 350 ||
|-
| [[31c3]] || Con || 2014 || CCH, Hamburg, DE || || || 90 ||
|-
| [[TOORCAMP 2014]] || Camp || 2014 || Hobuck Beach Resort, Neah Bay, WA, US || || || 50 ||
|-
| [[EMFCAMP 2014]] || Camp || 2014 || Newton Longville, Milton Keynes || || Milliways radio || 25 ||
|-
| [[30c3]] || Con || 2013 || CCH, Hamburg, DE || || || 75 ||
|-
| [[OHM 2013]] || Camp || 2013 || Geestmerambacht, Oudkarspel, NL || || The Dutch Hacker Camp Observe Make Hack 2013 || 100+ ||
|-
| [[29c3]] || Con || 2012 || CCH, Hamburg, DE || || First milliways on a Chaos Communication Congress || 90+ ||
|-
| [[TOORCAMP 2012]] || Camp || 2012 || Hobuck Beach Resort, Neah Bay, WA, US || || || 35 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 2011]] || Camp || 2011 || Luftfahrtmuseum Finowfurt || || First "modern"  Milliways, First Challenge coins, First Whiskyleaks || 300 ||
|-
| [[HAR 2009]] || Camp || 2009 || Paasheuvel, Vierhouten, NL || || The Dutch Hacker Camp Hacking at Random 2009. Radio Show together with C-RaDaR, Shardy+ certifications. || 60 ||
|-
| [[TOORCAMP 2009]] || Camp || 2009 || Titan 1 missile Silo, Moses Lake, WA, US || || First American Hacker Camp || 30 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 2007]] || Camp || 2007 || Luftfahrtmuseum Finowfurt || || The Village was called milliways, Internationalisation of milliways started. || maybe 75 ||
|-
| [[WTH 2005]] || Camp || 2005 || Veldersbos, Liempde || || The Dutch Hacker Camp What The Hack 2005. Millways was part of the W00tstock Village, Radio Show together with C-RaDaR. || 30 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 2003]] || Camp || 2003 || Freizeithof Paulshof near Altlandsberg || || First usage of the Name Milliways, part of the FireLounge || 18 ||
|-
| [[HAL 2001]] || Camp || 2001 || University of Twente, Enschede, NL || || pre-milliways events: Hackers at Large 2001. pre-milliways events || 6 ||
|-
| [[CCCamp 1999]] || Camp || 1999 || Freizeithof Paulshof near Altlandsberg || || pre-milliways events: People starting milliways traveled to the CCC Camp 1999 together. || 5 ||
|}
 
=== Creating a new event ===
 
# Think of a simple, yet unique name for the event that will be used everywhere, `38c3` works well for congress, `cccamp23` for camp, `emf24`, `why25`, ...
# Add Page `Template:<eventname>` (copy template from `Template:cccamp23` or so)
# After having copied the template, insert `Property:38c3 arrival` and `Property:38c3 departure` by clicking on the red property in the rendered template and insert <nowiki>[[Has type::Date]]</nowiki>, `Property:38c3 PlusX` and `Property:38c3 DECT` get <nowiki>[[Has type::Number]]</nowiki>
# Click on the "Category" named after the event at the bottom of the Template page and create it
# Update the `Form:Person` page accordingly, replacing the last event with the new one
# Update the event page with the information needed, possibly by just copying the queries used on past events, such as [[CCCamp2023-participants]]
# Inform people that they should edit their wiki page using the "edit with form" option
 
== Saturday Jitsi ==
 
Jitsi Saturday is almost here, fellow sufferers! Join us as we navigate small talk, awkward pauses, and the occasional moment of forced positivity. See you there!
 
Jitsi link: if empty, contact via [[communications]] plz:
https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways-meet
 
== [[Drinkups]] ==
 
None public currently anymore
 
== Projects ==
 
=== WOPR ===
 
One and only, coming soon since 2006.
 
=== Whiskyleaks ===
 
Self organizing, repeating, turned into a legend. Many bottles arrive, none leave. Bring a bottle of your favourite whisky (or other spirits) and share it with other passionate drinkers. If you can’t bring a bottle, come along - bring one next time!
 
=== [[mail2jail]] ===
 
Write letters to fellow hackers currently declaring jail as their primary place of residence.
 
=== [[Challenge coins]] ===
 
Milliways creates [[challenge coins]] associated with every event we make an appearance at.
 
=== [[Dome|Domes]] ===
 
Done first for the american toorcamp 2009. Today there's several americans domes and a bigger european one in our storage. There's likely a british dome incoming.
 
== Infrastructure ==
 
=== camp constructions infrastructure ===
==== tents ====
[[Tents]] - Blue and Green Tent
 
==== dome ====
 
EMF EDIT;<br \>
A new tarp can be ruined after several strong gusts of wind.
We need ground ankers and 200m of high tensile rope for each dome to prevent this from happening again + improved plans on setting up the dome and adding a tarp so it's clear for newbies.
 
2 Domes; 1 in [[Weeze_Storage]], 1 in UK Storage (unclear where - ask EMF people)
 
Both domes are the same spec. Slightly egg shaped depending on how they're setup.
 
Radius; 4.75m
 
THE DOME MAN
 
=== Storage ===
 
[[Storage]] - Milliways has a storage. Its a mess
 
[[Weeze_Storage]]
 
=== milliways cloud ===


[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System
[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System


[[Communications]] - you can contact Milliways using those methods
=== wishlists for Infrastructure ===
Milliways has some infrastructure. To keep this infrastructure up and running we need spare parts and every other year a replacement server. We have therefore created 3 wishlists on amazon.
==== spare parts for the server in vienna ====
managed by [[User:Tuxcoder]]
at this moment no needs, the wishlist is empty
==== spare parts for the backup server in rotterdam ====
managed by [[User:Mc.fly]]
[https://www.amazon.de/hz/wishlist/ls/3DT0Y1PSECSDA Wishlist for the Backup server]
==== parts for a new replacement server in Hamburg ====
managed by no_maam
[https://www.amazon.de/hz/wishlist/ls/34DM1N1U46RF2 Wishlist for the Hamburg server]
== Swag ==
We do [[challenge coins|coins]] and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways Seafile for SVG files.
[[camp2019-t-shirt]]
Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year)
Idea: McFly, nina
allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!
We could use them for the kitchen and/or "sell" them for a little sponsoring money.
link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html
=== Logo ===
Want to know more about our [[logo|logo]]?


== Travel tips ==


== Getting started ==
* [[travel2rotterdam]]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Configuration_settings Configuration settings list]
* [[travel2karlsruhe]]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:FAQ MediaWiki FAQ]
* [[travel2leipzig]]
* [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce MediaWiki release mailing list]
* [[travel2camp]]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Localisation#Translation_resources Localise MediaWiki for your language]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Combating_spam Learn how to combat spam on your wiki]

Latest revision as of 11:53, 6 November 2024

About Us

Milliways at CCCamp 2019

We ask new travellers five questions:

  1. Who are you?
  2. How did you get here?
  3. What can you do for Milliways?
  4. What can Milliways do for you?
  5. What are you good in which is not computers?

What is Milliways?

Milliways is a group of information security specialists, which has appeared at several hacker camps in Europe and North America since 2003. We plan and build large installations and infrastructure, where we feed and host hundreds of hackers, providing a space for discussions and networking.

How did we get here?

A happy little accident, nobody quite remembers, but we're still here.

What can we do for you?

Milliways can offer a space for discussions, networking, and talks. All over a nice beer, hot coffee, or fine whisky.

What can you do for us?

Milliways is volunteer-run and always welcomes another helping hand. We do a lot of things, whether you can cook, build-up, tear-down, clean-up, give a talk...

What are we good at that is not computers?

Travellers of Milliways are experienced in all walks of life, from baking to photography, woodwork, and everything in between.

Now it's your turn, head over to communications to contact us - don't forget your five answers.

Events

Future

Future Events
Name Type When Location Link to event page Notes
38c3 Con 27-30. 12. 2024 Hamburg, Germany https://events.ccc.de this is a thing that year.
WHY2025 Camp 08 - 12 August 2025 Geestmerambacht, Netherlands https://why2025.org/ Next Milliways orga meeting on Nov 24th!
emfcamp 2026 Camp May / June 2026 Maybe Eastnor, UK https://www.emfcamp.org/ emfcamp 2026.
ToorCamp 2026 Camp July 2026 Maybe San Juan Islands, WA, USA https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ toorcamp 2026
39c3 Con 27-30. 12. 2026 Hamburg, Germany? https://events.ccc.de Chaos Communication Congress 2026
CCCamp 2027 Camp August 2027 Brandenburg, Germany....? hahaha. We'll see beginning of 2027 Chaos Communuication Camp 2027. Very likely new location. Needs a new milliways concept.

Present

Present Events
Name Type When Location Link to event page Notes

Past

Past Events
Name Type When Location Link to event page Notes Travelers
ToorCamp 2024 Camp 26-30 June 2024 San Juan Islands, WA, USA https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/
GPN Karlsruhe (GPN 22) Con 30.05 bis 02.06 2024 HFG Karlsruhe https://entropia.de/GPN22
emfcamp 2024 Camp May 30th–June 2nd 2024 Eastnor, UK https://www.emfcamp.org/ emfcamp 2024. UK. Awesome. Workshop Tent, Dome and Kitchen. 80
37c3 Con 27-30. 12. 2023 Hamburg, Germany https://events.ccc.de this is a thing this year 120
CCCamp 2023 Camp 15-19 August 2023 Mildenberg https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/infos 500+
GPN Karlsruhe (GPN 21) Con 8-11 June 2023 HFG Karlsruhe https://entropia.de/GPN21 16
Easterhegg Hamburg (EH20) Con 7-10 April 2023 https://www.kampnagel.de/ Hamburg https://eh20.easterhegg.eu 20
HiP-Berlin Con 27-31 December 2022 ETI above C-BASE. Berlin https://hip-berlin.de Collaboration with lot's of hackspaces in Berlin, Freeside, Digitale Gesellschaft and more 35
Bornhack 2022 Camp 3-10 August 2022 Funen, Denmark https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2022/ 8?
MCH 2022 Camp 22 - 26 July 2022 Scoutinglandgoed in Zeewolde, 55km east of Amsterdam https://wiki.mch2022.org/Main_Page 70
TOORCAMP 2022 Camp 13 - 17 July 2022 San Juan Islands, WA, USA https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ unknown
EMFCAMP 2022 Camp 2022 Eastnor, UK https://emfcamp.org 100+
GPN 2022 Con 2022 ZKM, Karlsruhe, DE https://entropia.de/GPN 12
Toorcamp 2020 Camp 2020 USA This event was cancelled due to obvious reasons.
EMFCAMP 2020 Camp 2020 UK This event was cancelled due to obvious reasons.
36c3 Con 2019 CCL, Leipzig, DE 200
CCCamp 2019 Camp 2019 Ziegeleipark Mildenberg near Zehdenick, DE ca 500
35c3 Con 2018 CCL, Leipzig, DE 220
EMFCAMP 2018 Camp 2018 Eastnor Castle Deer Park, Herefordshire ca 100
TOORCAMP 2018 Camp 2018 Doe Bay, San Juan Islands, Washington, USA unknown
34c3 Con 2017 CCL, Leipzig, DE ca 170
SHA 2017 Camp 2017 Scoutinglandgoed Zeewolde, NL The Dutch Hacker Camp Still Hacking Anyway 2017 ca 100
33c3 Con 2016 CCH, Hamburg, DE 120
TOORCAMP 2016 Camp 2016 Doe Bay, San Juan Islands, Washington, USA ca 50
EMFCAMP 2016 Camp 2016 Loseley Park, Guildford 45
32c3 Con 2015 CCH, Hamburg, DE ca 150
CCCamp 2015 Camp 2015 Ziegeleipark Mildenberg near Zehdenick 350
31c3 Con 2014 CCH, Hamburg, DE 90
TOORCAMP 2014 Camp 2014 Hobuck Beach Resort, Neah Bay, WA, US 50
EMFCAMP 2014 Camp 2014 Newton Longville, Milton Keynes Milliways radio 25
30c3 Con 2013 CCH, Hamburg, DE 75
OHM 2013 Camp 2013 Geestmerambacht, Oudkarspel, NL The Dutch Hacker Camp Observe Make Hack 2013 100+
29c3 Con 2012 CCH, Hamburg, DE First milliways on a Chaos Communication Congress 90+
TOORCAMP 2012 Camp 2012 Hobuck Beach Resort, Neah Bay, WA, US 35
CCCamp 2011 Camp 2011 Luftfahrtmuseum Finowfurt First "modern" Milliways, First Challenge coins, First Whiskyleaks 300
HAR 2009 Camp 2009 Paasheuvel, Vierhouten, NL The Dutch Hacker Camp Hacking at Random 2009. Radio Show together with C-RaDaR, Shardy+ certifications. 60
TOORCAMP 2009 Camp 2009 Titan 1 missile Silo, Moses Lake, WA, US First American Hacker Camp 30
CCCamp 2007 Camp 2007 Luftfahrtmuseum Finowfurt The Village was called milliways, Internationalisation of milliways started. maybe 75
WTH 2005 Camp 2005 Veldersbos, Liempde The Dutch Hacker Camp What The Hack 2005. Millways was part of the W00tstock Village, Radio Show together with C-RaDaR. 30
CCCamp 2003 Camp 2003 Freizeithof Paulshof near Altlandsberg First usage of the Name Milliways, part of the FireLounge 18
HAL 2001 Camp 2001 University of Twente, Enschede, NL pre-milliways events: Hackers at Large 2001. pre-milliways events 6
CCCamp 1999 Camp 1999 Freizeithof Paulshof near Altlandsberg pre-milliways events: People starting milliways traveled to the CCC Camp 1999 together. 5

Creating a new event

  1. Think of a simple, yet unique name for the event that will be used everywhere, `38c3` works well for congress, `cccamp23` for camp, `emf24`, `why25`, ...
  2. Add Page `Template:<eventname>` (copy template from `Template:cccamp23` or so)
  3. After having copied the template, insert `Property:38c3 arrival` and `Property:38c3 departure` by clicking on the red property in the rendered template and insert [[Has type::Date]], `Property:38c3 PlusX` and `Property:38c3 DECT` get [[Has type::Number]]
  4. Click on the "Category" named after the event at the bottom of the Template page and create it
  5. Update the `Form:Person` page accordingly, replacing the last event with the new one
  6. Update the event page with the information needed, possibly by just copying the queries used on past events, such as CCCamp2023-participants
  7. Inform people that they should edit their wiki page using the "edit with form" option

Saturday Jitsi

Jitsi Saturday is almost here, fellow sufferers! Join us as we navigate small talk, awkward pauses, and the occasional moment of forced positivity. See you there!

Jitsi link: if empty, contact via communications plz: https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways-meet

Drinkups

None public currently anymore

Projects

WOPR

One and only, coming soon since 2006.

Whiskyleaks

Self organizing, repeating, turned into a legend. Many bottles arrive, none leave. Bring a bottle of your favourite whisky (or other spirits) and share it with other passionate drinkers. If you can’t bring a bottle, come along - bring one next time!

mail2jail

Write letters to fellow hackers currently declaring jail as their primary place of residence.

Challenge coins

Milliways creates challenge coins associated with every event we make an appearance at.

Domes

Done first for the american toorcamp 2009. Today there's several americans domes and a bigger european one in our storage. There's likely a british dome incoming.

Infrastructure

camp constructions infrastructure

tents

Tents - Blue and Green Tent

dome

EMF EDIT;
A new tarp can be ruined after several strong gusts of wind. We need ground ankers and 200m of high tensile rope for each dome to prevent this from happening again + improved plans on setting up the dome and adding a tarp so it's clear for newbies.

2 Domes; 1 in Weeze_Storage, 1 in UK Storage (unclear where - ask EMF people)

Both domes are the same spec. Slightly egg shaped depending on how they're setup.

Radius; 4.75m

THE DOME MAN

Storage

Storage - Milliways has a storage. Its a mess

Weeze_Storage

milliways cloud

Lenticular Cloud - Milliways Cloud System

Communications - you can contact Milliways using those methods


wishlists for Infrastructure

Milliways has some infrastructure. To keep this infrastructure up and running we need spare parts and every other year a replacement server. We have therefore created 3 wishlists on amazon.

spare parts for the server in vienna

managed by User:Tuxcoder

at this moment no needs, the wishlist is empty

spare parts for the backup server in rotterdam

managed by User:Mc.fly

Wishlist for the Backup server

parts for a new replacement server in Hamburg

managed by no_maam

Wishlist for the Hamburg server

Swag

We do coins and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways Seafile for SVG files.

camp2019-t-shirt

Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year) Idea: McFly, nina

allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!

We could use them for the kitchen and/or "sell" them for a little sponsoring money.

link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html

Want to know more about our logo?

Travel tips

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