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==Recent News== | ==Recent News== | ||
*We try to attend all WHY Orga meetings, you can read our notes on these [[why2025-orga-meetings | here]].<br /> | *We try to attend all WHY Orga meetings, you can read our notes on these [[why2025-orga-meetings | here]].<br /> | ||
** | **The next WHY Orga Jitsi is 2024-11-06 at 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST and can be attended [[https://meet.hack42.nl/why-meet here]] | ||
**The next WHY Orga in person meeting is 2024-12-14 but the location is still tbd | |||
*The next Milliways meeting is on 2024-11-24 at 20:00 UTC | |||
==Communication== | |||
Chat Communication for Milliways at WHY 2025 will be in a bridged room between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information. | |||
IRC: join #milliways-why2025 at irc.hackint.org | |||
Matrix: join #why:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/#milliways-space:milliways.info) | |||
We will attempt to keep this wiki page up to date with event orga changes and announcements as well as milliways updates and announcements. | |||
The chat will have @room and/or @here notifications when large announcement \ updates are made to the wiki. | |||
Further, there will be recurring jitsi meetings that will rise in frequency as time to the event ticks down. | |||
==Travellers Info== | |||
Add yourself as a participant on our [[why25-participants | Participants]] page.<br /> | |||
This list helps us with meal planning for our kitchen, guaging space needed at the site and feasbility of our wild ideas! | |||
=== what to bring - packing === | |||
Struggling with your pack list? Checkout Columbia19's excellent [https://github.com/Columbia19/Camping-Checklist camping list] and MacLemon's amazing [https://github.com/MacLemon/CongressChecklist Congress Checklist]. | |||
Ofcourse; Don't let yourself get surprised by the weather, always pack for expected weather circumstances. | |||
Check the weather report regularly from at least a few weeks in advance until right up to your departure and change accordingly. | |||
* Hint: A tarp is useful whether it rains or shines! ;) | |||
Don't have camping gear for yourself? Watch this space - we may have something to offer for you! | |||
==Meetings== | |||
Pads can be created under https://cpad.milliways.info/ Please link here when done. | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
! | ! When !! Where !! Type !! Description !! Notes | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | 2024-06-04 || emfcamp || meetup || a first meeting of interested participants || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[ | | 2024-06-15 || Geestmerambacht || field day || first WHY2025 field day || [[WHY_2025_fieldday | read our notes]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [ | | 2024-07-07 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Kickoff || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/view/bmr6Uu1+qwFSpwT9BeoMelbsZ6RlaBk0WSaFjCkmNG0/ Meeting Minutes] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | 2024-08-04 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+husak0eYk62ct5+wtLfKlWf/ Meeting Minutes] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | 2024-09-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || September Meeting || nothing of relevance, so no meeting minutes | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [ | | 2024-10-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || October Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/FnLspvub47govb-jN0TkVX3V/ Meeting Minutes] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [ | | 2024-11-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || November Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/gyi54e3nrJ8dMliGPpFtkhIB/ Meeting Minutes] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [ | | 2024-11-24 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || Nocember Meeting || | ||
|} | |} | ||
We meet in [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] on the first sunday of every month at 21:00 German Standard Time until April 2025.<br /> | |||
There will be bi-weekly (once every two weeks) meetings in April, May and June.<br /> | |||
There will be weekly meetings in July and Aug.<br /> | |||
There will be daily meetings during WHY. | |||
== Teams == | |||
=== Call for Engagement - We want you! === | |||
We currently have a CfER (Call for Event-Reiseleitung) open!<br /> | We currently have a CfER (Call for Event-Reiseleitung) open!<br /> | ||
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** Help load storage truck | ** Help load storage truck | ||
* Treasurer | * Treasurer | ||
* Social Media Manager | * Social Media Manager (hanemile might claim this as part of the infodesk if nobody else does) | ||
** Keep our Mastadon up to date with events (Talks/Worksshop/Entertainment) | ** Keep our Mastadon up to date with events (Talks/Worksshop/Entertainment) | ||
** Retoot interesting orga, sub village, individual stuff, boost mentions etc | ** Retoot interesting orga, sub village, individual stuff, boost mentions etc | ||
* Music! | * Music! | ||
** We need DJs for evenings! | ** We need DJs for evenings! | ||
*** nspace has raised interest (played a nice set with cyanpencil at EMF) | |||
===Event Reiseleitung=== | |||
Find yourself in need of someone kinda official to talk to about something Milliways specific for WHY? Look no further than this list! | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | |||
! Name !! Role | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] || WHY Orga contact | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:Zornem | Zornem]] || Archangel | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]] || Archangel | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]] || Infodesk | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]] || Constructions | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:boreq | boreq]] || Deco (Art \ Light \ Interactive) | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:cqc | cqc]] || Power + Midnight snack | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:mc.fly | McFly]] || milliways cyber circus \ Content Team | |||
|- | |||
| emerson || Content Team | |||
|- | |||
| User:No_maam | Erik || Content Team | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:cy | Cy]] || Content Team | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:kraln | kraln]] || Stage Team | |||
|- | |||
| [[User:firel0x | firel0x]] || Stage Team (Technical) | |||
|} | |||
== | === [[why2025-content | Content]] === | ||
We aim at attracting high quality or very entertaining cyber security content presented by speakers who know how to engage with the audience. The circus is not supposed to be the only cyber security stage on the camp since there might be good submissions/speakers that would fit better on a traditional stage. | |||
We would like to be part of the core WHY2025 schedule and CFP and let speakers decide whether they would like to present in the circus or whether they would prefer a traditional stage. Besides that, we would like to actively contact potential speakers and ask them to submit something to the stage. Submissions for the circus should be reviewed by Milliways, while other submissions stay with the MCH2025 core team. Acceptance can be based on the quality of the content and based on the ability of the speaker to engage with the audience and to make proper use of the special stage. Both teams may recommend to shift a submission from one stage/team to the other stage. A shared Pretix instance would be very beneficial for that. | |||
=== [[why2025-kitchen | Kitchen ]]=== | |||
*Manager needed | |||
The difference in having our own dedicated dishwashing station (at at least, access to freshwater and waste through rotating [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_bulk_container IBCs] or similar) at CCCamp23 vs using public facilities at EMF was apparant and frustrating to all. We hold up the dishwashing queue for individuals, families and smaller villages which is not a great experience and we can't efficiently or correctly clean our equipment because of lack of space, warm water etc. It would be great if we could have our own dedicated space at WHY 2025. | |||
Instead of relying on volunteer kitchen managers, our idea is to have a professional Chef/Cook/Kitchen Manager paid by Milliways to head up the Kitchen. We then need to look for a Milliways Kitchen Manager accustomed to organizing volunteers and other hackercamp event stuff to liasie between our kitchen, our archangels and event. | |||
=== [[why2025-bar | Bar]] === | |||
=== [[why2025-stage |Cyber Circus]] === | |||
Would be great to see [[User:mc.fly|mc.fly]]'s dream finally realized: A very special Milliways content stage, Van Rosmalen's [https://www.vanrosmalen.com/spiegeltent/salon-perdu/ Salon Perdu] tent.<br /> | |||
Now, this idea is contingent on some other decisions that need to be made by WHY-orga but the most important one which should not be underestimated; this would mean we run our own content like at CCCamp23 and share responsibility with the central content team. This is currently in very early discussions and may not even happen. | |||
*There is a [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/view/T5P2AhjyeeyZjM2Ae9Kh9bfWqXtG7h+Vcfj6iE+Hdj4/ draft] explanation of the idea that is shared with the official Orga. | |||
*At [https://wiki.why2025.org/User:Hp197 Hp197's] request, We have introduced three potential event sponsors to the Orga [https://wiki.why2025.org/Team:Sponsors sponsors] team and are in talks with more potential parties. | |||
== | ====Setup==== | ||
We could add a round 3-4m wide and 0.2-0.5 meter high podium in the centre of the tent with multiple screens pointing in different directions towards the audience above the speaker. The audience will be placed all around the speaker, just with small gaps for the entrance and a bar. | |||
====Open Questions==== | |||
*Do we want to run our own [https://pretalx.com/p/about/ Pretalx] if we have our own stage/workshop/entertainment/whatever? Is it even needed or worth it? | |||
*Could this be built to a default template so it's easily recyclable for other events? | |||
*What benefit does this have above using existing infra at each event? | |||
== | === [[why2025-infodesk |infodesk]] === | ||
Headed by [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]].<br \> | |||
Like at CCCamp23, have an infodesk with info on Milliways content, lost&found, directions, weather, mealtimes, volunteer signup, coins, stickers, music and more! | |||
Setup: the ccc-camp style "hut" was amazing, having a roof against rain and sun is essential. | |||
=== [[why2025-power |power]] === | |||
=== | === [[why2025-water |water]] === | ||
== | === [[why2025-art-light |Deco]] === | ||
=== | === [[why2025-constructions |Constructions]] === | ||
Headed by [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]].<br \> | |||
'''Please remember''' This is a hackercamp, we should only plan for this if we have the people, plans and equipment in place to fulfill the request.<br \> | |||
We can not improvise any serious woodworking on-site at little to no notice. | |||
====Intended Constructions==== | |||
* Infodesk | |||
* Keg Rack for beer | |||
* Weather dependant; Flooring | |||
** Infodesk | |||
** Kitchen | |||
** Dome | |||
* WOPR | |||
** Dependant on Cyber Circus plans - bar might go in cyber circus, then no need for WOPR | |||
It should go without saying, but to be sure;<br \> | |||
Don't teardown any constructions without approval from construction team. | |||
Don't use excess lumber \ torn down constructions to build bonfires. | |||
* | ====Lumber sourcing and storage==== | ||
* Sourcing from [https://www.pontmeyer.nl/ PontMeyer] | |||
* | * [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] has a space "close" to WHY terrain that can be used for storage and buildup of Milliways constructions for WHY. | ||
=== | === [[why2025-Volunteering |Heaven]] === | ||
Headed by [[User:zornem | Zornem]] | |||
Supported by [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]] | |||
Getting the right volunteers in the right places at the right times has proved challenging in the past, which creates absolute chaos.<br /> | |||
Chaos is fine and all every now and again and certainly, it's to be expected at these events, but; in the one area we are known for, the one area we strive to deliver properly, our wonderful kitchen that provides delicious food by hardworking volunteers - is suffering due to this chaos. | |||
How can we make this better? | |||
* With our own heaven using something like the [https://engelsystem.de/ Engelsystem]? other ideas? | |||
* Perhaps we can even link into and use or have volunteer shifts available in WHY's volunteer system for kitchen and - if we do our own stage - the heralding etc? | |||
* Have a big whiteboard / blackboard into which people can add themselves. Pro: is super present and people can directly see what is still needed, best even if it's in the queue for the kitchen, so people can see the current status and spontaneously add themselves. | |||
=== [[why2025-logistics |Logistics]] === | |||
=== | === [[why2025-buildup-takedown |Buildup]] === | ||
=== | === [[why2025-buildup-takedown|Takedown]] === | ||
==Subvillages== | |||
==Plans== | |||
=====Village \ Circus Content===== | |||
Seen in a few workshop tents at EMF, have a printed schedule in large type size taped somewhere visible for visitors and volunteers so they can easy spot and check schedule. | |||
Where applicable, have additional info about content taped next to schedule. Sign up links/QR, workshop provider contact details, more info/reading qr links etc. | |||
[[Image:Spiegeltent-salon-perdu-4.jpg|600px]] | |||
===Whiskyleaks=== | ===Whiskyleaks=== | ||
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===Free Beer=== | ===Free Beer=== | ||
== | === Generator Sound System === | ||
No diesel generators? We'll emulate them using a few boxes generating the unique noise that has accompanied us the last camps. | |||
==Infrastructure== | |||
=== | |||
===[[Dome]]=== | ===[[Dome]]=== |
Latest revision as of 21:48, 3 November 2024
What Hackers Yearn 2025 | |
---|---|
The NL camp | |
Start date | 2025-08-08 |
End date | 2025-08-12 |
Location | Geestmerambacht |
About
What Hackers Yearn is the dutch camp organised by IFCAT.
WHY is the successor to MCH, SHA, OHM, etc.
Recent News
- We try to attend all WHY Orga meetings, you can read our notes on these here.
- The next WHY Orga Jitsi is 2024-11-06 at 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST and can be attended [here]
- The next WHY Orga in person meeting is 2024-12-14 but the location is still tbd
- The next Milliways meeting is on 2024-11-24 at 20:00 UTC
Communication
Chat Communication for Milliways at WHY 2025 will be in a bridged room between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.
IRC: join #milliways-why2025 at irc.hackint.org Matrix: join #why:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/#milliways-space:milliways.info)
We will attempt to keep this wiki page up to date with event orga changes and announcements as well as milliways updates and announcements. The chat will have @room and/or @here notifications when large announcement \ updates are made to the wiki.
Further, there will be recurring jitsi meetings that will rise in frequency as time to the event ticks down.
Travellers Info
Add yourself as a participant on our Participants page.
This list helps us with meal planning for our kitchen, guaging space needed at the site and feasbility of our wild ideas!
what to bring - packing
Struggling with your pack list? Checkout Columbia19's excellent camping list and MacLemon's amazing Congress Checklist. Ofcourse; Don't let yourself get surprised by the weather, always pack for expected weather circumstances. Check the weather report regularly from at least a few weeks in advance until right up to your departure and change accordingly.
- Hint: A tarp is useful whether it rains or shines! ;)
Don't have camping gear for yourself? Watch this space - we may have something to offer for you!
Meetings
Pads can be created under https://cpad.milliways.info/ Please link here when done.
When | Where | Type | Description | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2024-06-04 | emfcamp | meetup | a first meeting of interested participants | |
2024-06-15 | Geestmerambacht | field day | first WHY2025 field day | read our notes |
2024-07-07 | jitsi | orga | July Kickoff | Meeting Minutes |
2024-08-04 | jitsi | orga | August Meeting | Meeting Minutes |
2024-09-01 | jitsi | orga | September Meeting | nothing of relevance, so no meeting minutes |
2024-10-13 | jitsi | orga | October Meeting | Meeting Minutes |
2024-11-03 | jitsi | orga | November Meeting | Meeting Minutes |
2024-11-24 | jitsi | orga | Nocember Meeting |
We meet in jitsi on the first sunday of every month at 21:00 German Standard Time until April 2025.
There will be bi-weekly (once every two weeks) meetings in April, May and June.
There will be weekly meetings in July and Aug.
There will be daily meetings during WHY.
Teams
Call for Engagement - We want you!
We currently have a CfER (Call for Event-Reiseleitung) open!
We are looking for:
- one or two more Archangels
- Organize volunteers in/around our village (and possibly stage)
- Link up with WHY orga Volunteer Team
- Bar manager
- Logistics team
- Truck from Weeze to WHY
- Loading \ Unloading
- Perhaps local pickup/dropoff of groceries/materials if scheduled delivery unavailable
- Buildup team (optional: Mgr)
- Be onsite, from latest Day 0 - Thurs 7th Aug (prefer Day -2 Tues 5th), helping with Milliways buildup (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
- Understand what needs to be built, where and how.
- Help unload Storage truck
- Teardown team
- Be onsite, until latest Day 6 - Wed 13th Aug, helping with Milliways teardown (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
- Understand what needs to be packed up, where and how.
- Make sure everything packed is at least clean (can't promise dry, that is weather dependent)
- Help load storage truck
- Treasurer
- Social Media Manager (hanemile might claim this as part of the infodesk if nobody else does)
- Keep our Mastadon up to date with events (Talks/Worksshop/Entertainment)
- Retoot interesting orga, sub village, individual stuff, boost mentions etc
- Music!
- We need DJs for evenings!
- nspace has raised interest (played a nice set with cyanpencil at EMF)
- We need DJs for evenings!
Event Reiseleitung
Find yourself in need of someone kinda official to talk to about something Milliways specific for WHY? Look no further than this list!
Name | Role |
---|---|
Obsidian | WHY Orga contact |
Zornem | Archangel |
SleepyEntropy | Archangel |
Hanemile | Infodesk |
Junglerot | Constructions |
boreq | Deco (Art \ Light \ Interactive) |
cqc | Power + Midnight snack |
McFly | milliways cyber circus \ Content Team |
emerson | Content Team |
Erik | Content Team |
Cy | Content Team |
kraln | Stage Team |
firel0x | Stage Team (Technical) |
Content
We aim at attracting high quality or very entertaining cyber security content presented by speakers who know how to engage with the audience. The circus is not supposed to be the only cyber security stage on the camp since there might be good submissions/speakers that would fit better on a traditional stage.
We would like to be part of the core WHY2025 schedule and CFP and let speakers decide whether they would like to present in the circus or whether they would prefer a traditional stage. Besides that, we would like to actively contact potential speakers and ask them to submit something to the stage. Submissions for the circus should be reviewed by Milliways, while other submissions stay with the MCH2025 core team. Acceptance can be based on the quality of the content and based on the ability of the speaker to engage with the audience and to make proper use of the special stage. Both teams may recommend to shift a submission from one stage/team to the other stage. A shared Pretix instance would be very beneficial for that.
Kitchen
- Manager needed
The difference in having our own dedicated dishwashing station (at at least, access to freshwater and waste through rotating IBCs or similar) at CCCamp23 vs using public facilities at EMF was apparant and frustrating to all. We hold up the dishwashing queue for individuals, families and smaller villages which is not a great experience and we can't efficiently or correctly clean our equipment because of lack of space, warm water etc. It would be great if we could have our own dedicated space at WHY 2025.
Instead of relying on volunteer kitchen managers, our idea is to have a professional Chef/Cook/Kitchen Manager paid by Milliways to head up the Kitchen. We then need to look for a Milliways Kitchen Manager accustomed to organizing volunteers and other hackercamp event stuff to liasie between our kitchen, our archangels and event.
Bar
Cyber Circus
Would be great to see mc.fly's dream finally realized: A very special Milliways content stage, Van Rosmalen's Salon Perdu tent.
Now, this idea is contingent on some other decisions that need to be made by WHY-orga but the most important one which should not be underestimated; this would mean we run our own content like at CCCamp23 and share responsibility with the central content team. This is currently in very early discussions and may not even happen.
- There is a draft explanation of the idea that is shared with the official Orga.
- At Hp197's request, We have introduced three potential event sponsors to the Orga sponsors team and are in talks with more potential parties.
Setup
We could add a round 3-4m wide and 0.2-0.5 meter high podium in the centre of the tent with multiple screens pointing in different directions towards the audience above the speaker. The audience will be placed all around the speaker, just with small gaps for the entrance and a bar.
Open Questions
- Do we want to run our own Pretalx if we have our own stage/workshop/entertainment/whatever? Is it even needed or worth it?
- Could this be built to a default template so it's easily recyclable for other events?
- What benefit does this have above using existing infra at each event?
infodesk
Headed by Hanemile.
Like at CCCamp23, have an infodesk with info on Milliways content, lost&found, directions, weather, mealtimes, volunteer signup, coins, stickers, music and more!
Setup: the ccc-camp style "hut" was amazing, having a roof against rain and sun is essential.
power
water
Deco
Constructions
Headed by Junglerot.
Please remember This is a hackercamp, we should only plan for this if we have the people, plans and equipment in place to fulfill the request.
We can not improvise any serious woodworking on-site at little to no notice.
Intended Constructions
- Infodesk
- Keg Rack for beer
- Weather dependant; Flooring
- Infodesk
- Kitchen
- Dome
- WOPR
- Dependant on Cyber Circus plans - bar might go in cyber circus, then no need for WOPR
It should go without saying, but to be sure;
Don't teardown any constructions without approval from construction team.
Don't use excess lumber \ torn down constructions to build bonfires.
Lumber sourcing and storage
- Sourcing from PontMeyer
- Obsidian has a space "close" to WHY terrain that can be used for storage and buildup of Milliways constructions for WHY.
Heaven
Headed by Zornem Supported by SleepyEntropy
Getting the right volunteers in the right places at the right times has proved challenging in the past, which creates absolute chaos.
Chaos is fine and all every now and again and certainly, it's to be expected at these events, but; in the one area we are known for, the one area we strive to deliver properly, our wonderful kitchen that provides delicious food by hardworking volunteers - is suffering due to this chaos.
How can we make this better?
- With our own heaven using something like the Engelsystem? other ideas?
- Perhaps we can even link into and use or have volunteer shifts available in WHY's volunteer system for kitchen and - if we do our own stage - the heralding etc?
- Have a big whiteboard / blackboard into which people can add themselves. Pro: is super present and people can directly see what is still needed, best even if it's in the queue for the kitchen, so people can see the current status and spontaneously add themselves.
Logistics
Buildup
Takedown
Subvillages
Plans
Village \ Circus Content
Seen in a few workshop tents at EMF, have a printed schedule in large type size taped somewhere visible for visitors and volunteers so they can easy spot and check schedule. Where applicable, have additional info about content taped next to schedule. Sign up links/QR, workshop provider contact details, more info/reading qr links etc.
Whiskyleaks
Milliways' famous Whiskyleaks event; Self organizing, repeating, turned into a legend. Many bottles arrive, none leave. Bring a bottle of your favourite whisky (or other spirits) and share it with other passionate drinkers. If you can’t bring a bottle, come along - bring one next time!
Suggestion; Sunday 10th Aug
WOPR
Let's re-imagine NORAD's War Operation Plan Response (WOPR) SuperComputer from the beloved WarGames film as a theme befitting bar in the Milliways village at WHY!
Coin
Deco \ Art
We need to do a CfP for deco and art for our village.
Free Beer
Generator Sound System
No diesel generators? We'll emulate them using a few boxes generating the unique noise that has accompanied us the last camps.
Infrastructure
Dome
As we learned at EMF, A new tarp can be ruined after several strong gusts of wind. We need ground ankers and 200m of high tensile rope for each dome to prevent this from happening again + improved plans on setting up the dome and adding a tarp so it's clear for newbies.
Weeze_Storage
History
Milliways has attended several hackercamps in NL;
- 2022 May Contain Hackers
- 2017 Still Hacking Anyway
- 2013 Observe. Hack. Make.
- 2009 Hacking At Random
- 2005 What The Hack