CCCamp 2019

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wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015



Participant page

The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.

recent information

forest fire danger level

There is an forest fire danger level map from the state of Brandenburg. We are OHV



the Orga has its own page


Kitchen page


Buildup/teardown page


the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

milliways infodesk page

power + network

Power + Network page

beer wish list

The beer wish list page. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

HoBo Tents

on camp 2015 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

card10-badge integration

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this


scottish embassy

tEUrCamp: The US Hacker Camp in Europe!



Icelandic Embassy

Italian Hackers' Embassy: Kitchen, contents and much more...

Belgian Embassy / Hardware Hacking Area

Link to the layout of Belgian Embassy bus and its tent, with communal area and 1.5m perimeter


Spanish village


beer benches

scottish: 2 bierzeltgarnituren

freeside: 2 bierzeltgarnituren

toorcamp: 10 bierzeltgarnituren

cafe (fellmoon): 3 bierzeitgarnituren

crazy ideas

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

milliways radio

milliways radio on 104.2

coderobe has a transmitter

dutch market stands (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

no benches

=> Get precise price for 10 of these, do it.


MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

SuperQ has a Christiania cargo bike

=> If we get it onto the truck we'll do that.

high rotating milliways sign

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka,

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

  1. letsdoit

Metallic Starship

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

Note: OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

  1. sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

black in black spaceship

a black spaceship.

milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

milliways train

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.


awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too



Price: 12 670 euro

  • con
    • vermutlich teurer
  • pro
    • vermutlich geil.

Wasteland Cyber Camp

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems,361854274218984,627803,back

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys. MikeTango (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


  2. fellmoon
  3. s3krit
  4. valka


connected-milliways physical structure

Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

Milliways Shanty town/Favela style

Idea Fellmoon


  • shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level
  • easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas
  • lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc.
  • material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard


  • lots of (physical) work
  • probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards
  • depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

disconnect all the wirelezz

Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.

milliways moving objects

rail vehicle

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

Sinclair C5-S

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

C5 forum:

working kitchen

Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

milliways lightboxes

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

flight cases or other for transport simplification

euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk. various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon

String Art in Dome

display/project relevant info at kitchentent

Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

Ada's Café

Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always.
Also possible spot where people can get coins?

People interested in doing

  • fellmoon
  • snoopy
  • h1kari
  • superq


Qty Equipment Status Notes
1 La Marzocco Linea PB 2 Group Espresso Machine h1kari Provided by La Marzocco Berlin!
2 Mahlkonig E65s Espresso Grinders h1kari Provided by Sander-Tec Berlin!
1 Pitcher Rinser h1kari Will be flown in
1 Knock Box h1kari Will be improvised using trash/compost cans on-site
1 Undercounter Refrigerator h1kari Will be purchased locally when in-town the week before, unless there's one we can borrow
1 Commercial Coffee Maker 1 Home Machine, 1 Airpot brewer Home machine does ~1.2L, airpot brewer does ~2.2L
4 4L drink dispensers fellmoon & snoopy for fruit-water, selfmade ice tea etc.
1 Mahlkonig EK-43s Grinder h1kari Provided by Sander-Tec Berlin!
2 20L Waterkanister fellmoon & snoopy Water canisters for feeding espresso machine and equipment
2 Scales h1kari Will fly these in
1+ Goose neck electric kettle SuperQ Bringing a Stagg EKG, anyone else able to bring a kettle?
1 V60 SuperQ Bringing a V60 pour over
Misc plumbing h1kari Need various tubing to connect espresso machine and pitcher rinser to water supply. Bringing flojet so we can run off water canisters if needed. Will also source buckets to collect waste water.
Misc power cables h1kari Will purchase power and extension cables to plug everything in. Will probably need at least 2 dedicated circuits to run equipment.
Microfiber towels h1kari Will bring out on airplane
Milk pitchers h1kari Will bring out on airplane
Tampers h1kari Will be provided by supplier or will bring out on airplane
Misc brewing equipment h1kari + others Will bring in a few different hand brewers for people to play with (pour over, siphon, aeropress, etc). Please bring any you think would be fun to play with!
Misc size cups h1kari Will bring out various smaller size cups and shot glasses for <8oz espresso service

Sample Menu

  • Espresso
  • Espresso+Milk (4oz, 6oz, 8oz, 12oz) (+vanilla?)
  • 1+1
  • Mocha
  • Chai
  • Coffee
  • Tea


Amount Item Source Notes
6kg Coffee fellmoon, Kraln, & h1kari Sourcing from local roaster (2kg hammabrooklyn coffee - fellmoon, 4-6kg flying roasters - Kraln) and some coming in from Seattle (2-4kg olympia usbc2018 - h1kari)
50L whole, 10L oatly, 10L skim, 5L half and half Milk superq? Whole milk, oat milk. Buying from wholesaler
3L vanilla, 3L chocolate, 3L simple, 15L chai Syrups superq? Chai, Vanilla, & Chocolate. Buying from wholesaler or local store, unless kitchen wants to make some.
TBD Tea fellmoon & snoopy Black, Mate, Herbal. Buying from wholesaler locally
1 glass Jar Nescafe Classi kupo instant is good enough for me
3 bunches mint, 10 oranges Mint & Citrus Fruits superq?
2 bottles angostura bitters, 2 cans maraschino cherries, 3L Irish creme, 3L Irish whisky misc superq
300 8oz coffee mugs h1kari Will be giving out to all tEUrCampers and maybe Milliwaysians?
60 seats Table & Seating h1kari Put in request with infodesk to get seating
3 Cafe Bar h1kari Tables for running the cafe from, put in request with infodesk to rent

Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support

Idea: / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.

- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).

All Cats Are Beautiful


  • Panda
  • AnonymousVideo

  • FreeAnons

Milliways PCB art batch

PCB with Milliways design in copper and solder mask plus some LEDs to light it up. Maybe as soldering challenge.

Example circuit

Example PCB art

Sinister wood-sprite selfie area

Idea: carton

I would like to build sinister wood-sprite selfie area in a corner of the dome to take photos like this:

The backdrop attaches to the dome with spring clamps. Strobe & reflector attach with + . There's meant to be moonlight from above via a large umbrella, and lantern-light from the left via a gold reflector bouncing back the moonlight. Most of the fun comes from $40 aliexpress vinyl backdrop meant for kids' birthdays. The 500px photo is taken with a setup a bit better than what I'd be able to bring so it's not guaranteed to work as well but might look about like that. I'd buy all this stuff---not asking for budget. I'd want to leave the heavy grip stuff with Milliways, though.

I expect it's not set up all the time, only at the more-sober beginning-time of party night or something like that, for two reasons:

  • uses too much dome-space.
  • need to mind my camera doesn't get knocked in the mud.
  • . . . though unattended B-Y-O-camera mode is feasible by borrowing strobe transmitter from me.


  • EU shipping address^W^W^W we have that now.
  • selfie materials. I plan to bring wings, beards, and golden elf collars that you see on 500px. we need:
    • moar. more anything.
    • war lantern

(warning photos not available until after the camp. I won't have the mac desktop that runs the proprietary developing app with me.)

field day 10 nov 2018

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:


GPN last weekend of may

There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN

People going:

  1. mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)
  2. valka
  3. s3krit
  5. cookingroffa
  6. ryd (?)
  7. miketango
  8. superQ (?)
  9. tuxcoder

Brain dump from GPN 31/05/2019 from s3krit

dutch market things -> benches can come from brewing company Dome would be a more public/central space (that can be used by satellite camps)

  1. 6x12 tent
  2. 4x8 kitchen
  3. 3x6 bakery

We need to order wood, and there is a deadline for CCC for this, which we need to find out

Helpdesk need a 3x3 bar/cool looking area <- also needs an information radiator (could just be a blackboard) for telling people vital information when walking past.

MikeTango has lots of 246x122x12mm plywood/boards with rust paint (I think) - These can be used to build the tower(s)

Logistics seem like the main sticking point - MikeTango's stuff is on the other side of Germany, Essen is the location of the Milliways storage. Getting this stuff from where it is to Camp feels like the largest thing to solve. "Eurocrates are awesome" - someone

Look on Ebay for circular rotating >1m lichtbox

"Black on black spaceship 3x3m pad illuminated vlack matte black 2.0/3.0 flat windows 2x2m 20 black cheap" ^ Need builders for this, possibly from the Rotterdam hackerspace. Light landing pads, etc would need UV paint (MikeTango knows the stuff to get).

Lasercut milliways stencil in metal to fit a-gobo light

Train (???) - one of the most useful things for this would be getting stuff from the Camp entrance to our village

Sinclair C5 without motors - maybe speak to moving object people about turning this into something useful/cool.

CCC Shuttle from berlin likely starts 2 or so days from the start of camp.

field day 08 june 2019

There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:


There is a map for the Milliways area: .

You can modify the map in Seafile[1]. Sugested editor is JOSM[2], but you can use any editor that supports OSMXML as format.

Issues report please on the git page[3] or to User:Tuxcoder

Please add a list of thinks that need space here

  • example tent (3m Ø)
  • example tent2 (3x8m)
  • example group (42 people)



Lost and Found

  • Item - Who has it
  • Blue metal cook pot lid - SuperQ
  • LOST: headlamp, may have FREESIDE sticker on battery pack, rechargeable, blue and yellow elastic headband, 5 lights, tilt-able (contact valka on IRC)
  • LOST: light blue microfiber towel, last seen after the Not A Pool leak (contact kgz on IRC)