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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
ohai!&lt;br /&gt;
It&amp;#039;s Sunday July 28th at 21h CEST, so it&amp;#039;s time for the mumble!&lt;br /&gt;
server address: mumble.milliways.info port 64738&lt;br /&gt;
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The mumble meeting is recorded.&lt;br /&gt;
https://seafile.milliways.info/f/db92a8aa711041f8912c/ &amp;lt;- recording of the mumble&lt;br /&gt;
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Please give yourself also a name. On the right side there is the participations list. click on the &amp;quot;ppl&amp;quot; button and change your name from unnnamed to something more real plz.&lt;br /&gt;
Participants of this meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
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    mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
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    Jaq&lt;br /&gt;
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    oTTr&lt;br /&gt;
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    kraln&lt;br /&gt;
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    valka&lt;br /&gt;
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    s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
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    boreq&lt;br /&gt;
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    carton&lt;br /&gt;
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    malaclypse&lt;br /&gt;
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    aestetix&lt;br /&gt;
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    cobolt&lt;br /&gt;
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    KutmasteR&lt;br /&gt;
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    fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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    snoopy - listening&lt;br /&gt;
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    nina&lt;br /&gt;
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    kekhmet&lt;br /&gt;
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    MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
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    Divide&lt;br /&gt;
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    Nyx - listening&lt;br /&gt;
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    coderobe - joined 21:52&lt;br /&gt;
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Topics for today&lt;br /&gt;
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    quick questions and updates.&lt;br /&gt;
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    doodle - please add your availibility to the doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/milliwaysarrival/&lt;br /&gt;
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    coming/leaving schedule &lt;br /&gt;
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    have a list of when people are coming-/leaving on the wiki?&lt;br /&gt;
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    have a list of when VEHICLES are coming/leaving on the wiki?  -- mule services.  UK people are doing this secretly already.&lt;br /&gt;
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    finances - donations &lt;br /&gt;
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    What happend to the t-shirts? - Payment is hard to organise in the current state -&amp;gt; moved to next time&lt;br /&gt;
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    stickers (willscott) - 1000 in my possesion&lt;br /&gt;
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    patches/flags?&lt;br /&gt;
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    goal: 300 patches, mix of b&amp;amp;w &amp;amp; color.  cost &amp;lt;= $1.50/ea if they agree to mix under &amp;quot;300 patch&amp;quot; discount&lt;br /&gt;
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    postal stamps&lt;br /&gt;
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    fem on #milliways organizes mail to jail&lt;br /&gt;
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    eur0,95 (milliways stamp, intl) or eur0,60 (milliways stamp, .de only) + eur0,35 (generic stamp)&lt;br /&gt;
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    -&amp;gt; decision: 208 stamps for eur0,60 each&lt;br /&gt;
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    when/how much is best for donations? (before camp, how much to donate for coins, food, &amp;quot;all-inclusive&amp;quot;, beer, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
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    2 ways to donate&lt;br /&gt;
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    act as a &amp;#039;loan&amp;#039; - gets repaid out of the on-site donations if milliways does not make horrible losses.&lt;br /&gt;
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    donate normally - that is your donation&lt;br /&gt;
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    -&amp;gt; What do we need more of, and how do we get more of it?  Do we have enough loans?  Is pre-camp donation streamlined enough (valka overloaded with tracking small donations?  not enough coming in?)&lt;br /&gt;
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    €25 for coin&lt;br /&gt;
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    €50 for coin+food&lt;br /&gt;
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    for beer talk to mcfly about donating a keg (~€100 a keg)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Donations: buckets/mailbox&lt;br /&gt;
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    Possibly to use a card reader for donations -&amp;gt; would need somebody to do infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
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    call for wood orders&lt;br /&gt;
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    Check with CCC when the deadline is &amp;lt;-- deadline TODAY&lt;br /&gt;
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    2 x (enough OSB + few pieces of lumber for a 4x8m floor), and probably the same again to construct a small &amp;#039;hut&amp;#039; for infodesk.&lt;br /&gt;
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    toorcamp dome&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32300052043.html&lt;br /&gt;
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    Dome is 8 meters in diameter&lt;br /&gt;
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    TikiTech Bar&lt;br /&gt;
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    Bar will be mobile and in different location around CCC each evening&lt;br /&gt;
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    Soft opening - test will be Tuesday night at Milliways camp for campers&lt;br /&gt;
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    Jaq and Div will be heading project and invite any interested to join in planning or help&lt;br /&gt;
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    beer status -- mcfly is doing the bier&lt;br /&gt;
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    double tap:  two beers at the same time&lt;br /&gt;
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    buy maté from CCC.&lt;br /&gt;
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    also bench, table, bench come from the biervendor&lt;br /&gt;
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    also cooling trailer comes from the biervendor&lt;br /&gt;
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    donate a keg of beer on the wiki.  This lets you choose the beer.&lt;br /&gt;
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    benches/tables &lt;br /&gt;
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    rentable from ccc or beervendor? selfbuilding? &lt;br /&gt;
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    mostly likely beer vendor, meaning we don&amp;#039;t need deadline tonight&lt;br /&gt;
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    ask subvillages about furniture&lt;br /&gt;
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    ccc rentable deadline TONIGHT&lt;br /&gt;
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    way cheaper to rent from beer-vendor &amp;gt; e-mail with call for furniture will come soon (valka?)&lt;br /&gt;
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    dates for cobolt bus - aug 16 to aug 27 - parking pass? Cobolt bus call number +4407497787998 (cell, iMessage, WhatsApp, signal, telegram, wire, line)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Truck&lt;br /&gt;
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    7.2 tonne truck&lt;br /&gt;
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    cobolt can check corporate discounts&lt;br /&gt;
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    corporate discount is up to 20%&lt;br /&gt;
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    electricity&lt;br /&gt;
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    is Havilland still in to do this? does he need help? (has a lot of stuff to do, will try to give us feedback until Wednesday)&lt;br /&gt;
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    up to 32A 400V.  https://map.c3noc.net/#17.87/53.032251/13.309252 then click &amp;lt;power&amp;gt; layer in the middle-right layers control.&lt;br /&gt;
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    every village and tent needs to bring their own 230V power cables unless you have talked to milliways electricity team&lt;br /&gt;
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    need small switchmode PSUs (5V) for card10 (badge) mesh network (esp32 beacons spread across wherever we want coverage)&lt;br /&gt;
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    also would like to get esp32 boards for the duration of camp to extend this network, i only have a handful. - coderobe&lt;br /&gt;
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    group dishwasher status - the planned public dishwasher is moved to the family village as it seems&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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