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Sunday 2019-07-21<br />
Start: 2100 CEST<br />
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Topics:<br />
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Watchtowers<br />
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can I have the needed area? -> tuxcoder (it in the map already)<br />
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every subvillage is asked to make a (glowing) logo to put on the towers.<br />
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Logistics Updates<br />
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when will interenet be avalable on site - we can get a hotspot with external antenna from SuperQ Carl will pick up most likely<br />
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p01ar and X41 have unlimited roaming inside the EU: will be made available for anyone planning or for admin, just ask<br />
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may be bad cell signal, may be a fair use limit, so dont rely on it<br />
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expect when buildup of camp is done<br />
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Financials/donations<br />
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coins<br />
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3 type fo coins of 200 each<br />
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1 coin 25,-<br />
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set of coins - 65,-<br />
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people who eat <br />
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another donation run<br />
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will there be broader donations in advance of camp?<br />
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hope for 50euro / participant<br />
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blog.milliways.info needs another post and then a tweetstorm towards that<br />
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lists of costs so far / planned<br />
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make costs transparent to potential donors<br />
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Oven was 600 + 100 to convert gas type<br />
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coins - how much?<br />
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transport - tent a 12to truck + van - 1000eur+<br />
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should people be able to pre-pay for coins / food?<br />
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Valka is tracking it. Can mention in advance this is possible.<br />
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Food Budget: Historically budget is about 12-13 EUR/person<br />
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contact heads of villages<br />
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create wiki page<br />
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for donation cost calculate 450 breakfast / lunch and 650 dinner<br />
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Status of participation counts<br />
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Need to know how much food to buy<br />
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buildup / takedown<br />
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transport to and from camp<br />
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12 to truck<br />
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renting a truck near mainz.<br />
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expected cost 1000eur+ fuel + road tax<br />
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12to truck Mainz -> Koblenz -> Essen -> Camp<br />
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12to truck camp -> Essen -> Koblenz -> Mainz<br />
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Cobolt BUS<br />
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Can be rented as early as August 13th Cobolt needs to know when we are going to start needing Bus services<br />
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rent by cobolt, 9 seate<br />
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pickup from berlin pre-camp <br />
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transport back to berlin after camp<br />
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shuttle outside shuttle times<br />
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food runs<br />
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VW Bus, rent by cobolt, 9 seater<br />
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toorcamp van?<br />
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further cars<br />
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shuttle<br />
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uk folk have a bunch of cars, but not really money for fuel, willing to transport with fuel funds<br />
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anyone who hasnt booked travel from the UK to germany consider talking to coven, we are driving<br />
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down and have spare seats<br />
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HVAC stuff<br />
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possible misting system?<br />
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fans<br />
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kitchen will nee some for sure, check amazon wish list and add if not<br />
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Power<br />
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talk to Havilland<br />
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Beer - who deals with it?<br />
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is there a volunteer there that would like to deal with the Beer before and on camp together with mc.fly<br />
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Nicolai can handle this<br />
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talking to beer companies<br />
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last time vendor gastro circus, 35 kegs, eur90/KeG<br />
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Beer cooling trailer<br />
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Beer benches<br />
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Ausschankwagen<br />
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Overview of kegs, talking to beer suppliers<br />
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Watching the tap status -> oTTr can help here<br />
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mc.fly finds contact data of gastro circus -> gives it to superQ<br />
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marktkraanen<br />
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mc.fly needs to finally do that. :-D<br />
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transport from rotterdam<br />
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status coins, other stuff to order<br />
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update from subvillages - do we miss something<br />
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Collect contanct points<br />
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Headcounts<br />
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for sleeping<br />
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for eating<br />
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Kitchen<br />
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kitchen team has mumble meeting monday July 22 19:00 CEST<br />
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when is electricity availible? Ask c3power on rocket -> power team (Havilland)<br />
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before electricity gas equip - grill and gas plates<br />
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Menu should be complete this week<br />
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most useful is complete meal plans - main, sides, veg options, etc.<br />
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Probably need a driver in Berlin for equipment and food pickup (CobaltBus)<br />
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Also need equipment to Berlin return<br />
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Plates: IKEA metal bowls from last camp<br />
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Open question: is the central dishwasher happening?<br />
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rent cooled storage space at cool-village, contact: https://t.me/coolvillage<br />
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Cost: ~ 48EUR for whole timespan<br />
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Service starts (tentatively): 2019-08-20 in the morning (10:00)<br />
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map<br />
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moved to tomorrow<br />
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what is:<br />
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"public" area<br />
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south of the freeside tent<br />
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position of differen stuff:<br />
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HVAC<br />
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other big stuff<br />
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space for tents<br />
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discoball to create tree-faeries -- https://www.ebay.de/itm/273665896432 ball + motor are ordered to kraln. need rainlight or sth to point at it.<br />
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what is again in the middle of the circle<br />
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MikeTango preassembly<br />
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towers test-assembled<br />
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pool was test-assembled. takes 1hr to disassemble after draining. got some kind of approval from someone who could veto it(?).<br />
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hobotent is complete<br />
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X41/goat/p01ar/grufwub have to leave early, discuss these if you wish, hit p01ar up on IRC if you have questions<br />
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camp safety precautions for milliways and sub villiages<br />
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fire safety<br />
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fire extinguishers? - CO2 extinguishers available<br />
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fire blankets - kitchen has 2<br />
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smoker & german forest dryness fire categories<br />
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III - no charcoal grills, propane ok<br />
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IV - smoker allowed but will be scrutinized for sparks, no charcoal grills, propane ok <-- expected<br />
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V - no smoker, no charcoal grills, propane ok <-- possible worst-case<br />
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AI(?) superq wants contact from smoker guys. wants to know what day smoker will be smoking.<br />
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-> dryness category probalby not a question because they already bought a ferry ticket<br />
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maybe put out additional ashtrashs, picking up the filters was annoying last time<br />
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medical safety<br />
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space blankets to coat tents, keep them cool<br />
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hydration / food supplies <br />
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in talks with the scottish assembly about rehydration packs that can be given out at milliways & sub camps<br />
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large barrel of drinkabl water, or access to a tap?.. << access to kitchen area..<br />
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Participants:<br />
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valka<br />
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fellmoon<br />
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Foxboron<br />
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tuxcoder<br />
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willscott<br />
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oTTr<br />
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kgz<br />
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malaclypse<br />
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mc.fly<br />
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X41<br />
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P01arst0rm<br />
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goat<br />
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Grufwub<br />
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sleepyentropy<br />
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snoopy - listening<br />
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gatkeeeper - listening<br />
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cobolt<br />
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SuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuperQ<br />
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Kekhmet<br />
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russss<br />
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panda<br />
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azafran<br />
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nina<br />
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