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== About Us ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Milliways is a big group of information security specialists on hacker camps. We bring big&lt;br /&gt;
infrastructure which we plan and built ourselves. The intercontinental logistics include self&lt;br /&gt;
constructed installations. We provide a space for discussions and networking…&lt;br /&gt;
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We feed hundreds of hackers with self-cooked food out of our self-built infrastructure.&lt;br /&gt;
Milliways has appeared on several hacker camps in Europe and in North America and has been in existence since 2003.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Events ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Future ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== 2022 ====&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[emfcamp2022]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 2 - 5 June 2022 &lt;br /&gt;
* Where: Eastnor, UK&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.emfcamp.org/&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[toorcamp2022]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 13 - 17 July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
* Where: San Juan Islands, WA, USA&lt;br /&gt;
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https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[mch2022]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 22 - 26 July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
* Where: [[Location|Scoutinglandgoed in Zeewolde, 55km east of Amsterdam]]&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.mch2022.org/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[Hope2022]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 22. - 24. July 2022&lt;br /&gt;
* Where: New York Central&lt;br /&gt;
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https://hope.net/&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[Bornhack2022]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: Wednesday the 3rd of August to Wednesday the 10th of August 2022 &lt;br /&gt;
* Where: Funen, Denmark, &lt;br /&gt;
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https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2022/&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[defcon29]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* when: Aug. 11-14, 2022-&lt;br /&gt;
* Where: Las Vegas Babe&lt;br /&gt;
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https://defcon.org/&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[37c3]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 27-31 December 2022?&lt;br /&gt;
* Where: still unknown&lt;br /&gt;
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The status of the 37c3 is not clear yet. might be 2022, might be 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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=== corona-victims ===&lt;br /&gt;
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===== toorcamp2020 =====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ toorcamp 2020 has also been cancelled for 2020 and moved to 2021]&lt;br /&gt;
June 23-28 2020, San Juan Islands, US&lt;br /&gt;
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===== EMFCAMP2020 =====&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://blog.emfcamp.org/2020/03/25/emf-2020-cancelled/ EMFCamp 2020 has been cancelled.]&lt;br /&gt;
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===== 37c3 =====&lt;br /&gt;
cancelled&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 27-31 December 2021? 2022?&lt;br /&gt;
* Where: still unknown&lt;br /&gt;
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The status of the 37c3 is not clear yet. might be 2021, might be 2022&lt;br /&gt;
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===== hackermovies =====&lt;br /&gt;
TBD&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Past ===&lt;br /&gt;
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===== [[GPN 2022]] =====&lt;br /&gt;
* When: 19. - 22. Mai 2022 &lt;br /&gt;
* Where: Karlsruhe&lt;br /&gt;
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https://entropia.de/GPN&lt;br /&gt;
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===== 36c3 =====&lt;br /&gt;
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December 27-30 2019, Leipzig, DE&lt;br /&gt;
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===== CCCamp 2019 =====&lt;br /&gt;
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===== 35c3 =====&lt;br /&gt;
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===== EMFCAMP2018 =====&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Drinkups]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infrastructure ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Dome]] - Dome and Dome related stuff&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Tents]] - Blue and Green Tent&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Communications]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Boxes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Storage]] - Milliways has a storage. Its a mess&lt;br /&gt;
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[[20210807-storageday]] - day to move and reorganize the storage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Projects ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[mail2jail]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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== Swag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We do coins and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways Seafile for SVG files.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[camp2019-t-shirt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year)&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
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allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
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We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
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link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
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== travel tips ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[travel2rotterdam]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2karlsruhe]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2leipzig]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2camp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Traveling to Rotterdam and looking for special places? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;re collecting interesting info on traveling to Rotterdam here - feel free to add your own recommendations!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Places to sleep ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Central Station/City Center area ===&lt;br /&gt;
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AirBnB: nice cosy room for two-three people at 10 minutes from Central Station [https://www.airbnb.nl/rooms/29499221]&lt;br /&gt;
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AirBnB: lots of appartments for rent in the Calypso building (where mc.fly and cookingroffa live) like this one [https://www.airbnb.nl/rooms/19496017?location=Calypso%20Rotterdam%2C%20Rotterdam%2C%20Netherlands&amp;amp;guests=1&amp;amp;adults=1&amp;amp;sl_alternate_dates_exclusion=true&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1557667189_yQsFoGs%2B7H2sruOS&amp;amp;s=snuri-wW] or this one with jacuzzi [https://www.airbnb.nl/rooms/20938353?location=Calypso%20Rotterdam%2C%20Rotterdam%2C%20Netherlands&amp;amp;guests=1&amp;amp;adults=1&amp;amp;sl_alternate_dates_exclusion=true&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1557667159_XVick7cbuXSz9z0z&amp;amp;s=SOm8Reo5] most of them have a balcony and a nice view. &lt;br /&gt;
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Hostel: [http://sparkshostel.com/hostel/ Sparks hostel] nice, modern, light hostel close to Central Station and across the street from mc.fly and cookingroffa.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hackerspace Pixelbar area ===&lt;br /&gt;
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For legal reasons concerning the building Pixelbar is in &#039;&#039;&#039;nobody is allowed to sleep in the hackerspace&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are some nice options in the area however.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.airbnb.nl/users/show/244141635 Culture Campsite on AirBnB] sleep in an original architectural or artistic object. 20 minutes walk from Pixelbar. Easy to reach from Central Station with tram 8. More info on their own website [https://www.culturecampsite.com/ Culture Campsite].&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.airbnb.nl/s/Keileweg--Rotterdam--Nederland/homes?refinement_paths%5B%5D=%2Fhomes&amp;amp;query=Keileweg%2C%20Rotterdam%2C%20Nederland&amp;amp;search_type=UNKNOWN&amp;amp;allow_override%5B%5D=&amp;amp;map_toggle=true&amp;amp;zoom=15&amp;amp;search_by_map=true&amp;amp;sw_lat=51.90104227770985&amp;amp;sw_lng=4.4167828535938725&amp;amp;ne_lat=51.92206223403095&amp;amp;ne_lng=4.444578585615204&amp;amp;place_id=EiBLZWlsZXdlZywgUm90dGVyZGFtLCBOZXRoZXJsYW5kcyIuKiwKFAoSCfkK_NviNMRHEdJQe5Z6tpJIEhQKEgl9xFRfYLfFRxGFS16VrLspUg&amp;amp;s_tag=VpwUgjLU Several AirBnB´s] - Pixelbar is close to Metro and Tram station Marconiplein&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Other ===&lt;br /&gt;
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== Food and drinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many styles of food to be found in Rotterdam. A small selection can be found here. If you are looking for anything specific you can always ask mc.fly or cookingroffa.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Local fast food ===    &lt;br /&gt;
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Bram Ladage - everything fried. Try the kroket! There is one at 5 minutes walking from Central Station, at Kruisplein 155 [https://ladage.nl/vestigingen/]&lt;br /&gt;
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El Avivia [https://www.elaviva-rotterdam.nl/contact] - eat the famous Kapsalon [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapsalon] where it was invented&lt;br /&gt;
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Jaffa [https://wego.here.com/directions/mix//Jaffa-Eten-en-Drinken-Jaffa-Express,-Witte-de-With-straat-40b,-3012BR-Rotterdam,-Netherlands:e-eyJuYW1lIjoiSmFmZmEgRXRlbiBlbiBEcmlua2VuICYgSmFmZmEgRXhwcmVzcyIsImFkZHJlc3MiOiJXaXR0ZSBkZSBXaXRoIHN0cmFhdCA0MGIsIFJvdHRlcmRhbSIsImxhdGl0dWRlIjo1MS45MTU2MTk5LCJsb25naXR1ZGUiOjQuNDc3NjUsInByb3ZpZGVyTmFtZSI6ImZhY2Vib29rIiwicHJvdmlkZXJJZCI6NTEzMDI0MzM4Nzg3OTA0fQ==?map=51.91562,4.47765,15,normal&amp;amp;fb_locale=nl_NL] eat the famous Kapsalon at one of the best places to eat it&lt;br /&gt;
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Vegan fast food, 1 minute from Central Station [https://www.jackbean.nl/ Jack Bean]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indian food ===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://tandoor16.com/ Tandoor 16] Indian cuisine with a twist. Cocktails and German beer. Casual and a bit, dare I say it, hipsterish. Close to city center. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indonesian food ===&lt;br /&gt;
Because of, well, &#039;historic reasons&#039; The Netherlands is one of the best places in the world to find true Indonesian food outside of Indonesia. Rotterdam has quite some Indonesian restaurants. &lt;br /&gt;
The ones listed here are a recommended selection.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.warungmini.com/ Warung Mini], on the Witte de Withstraat, famous for good late night food, open until midnight everyday and until 6 in the morning on Friday and Saturday. &lt;br /&gt;
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[http://minangkabau.nl/ Minang Kabau] in a traditional Indonesian building, in a city park with view over a pond and the skyline.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.dewisri.nl/en/ Dewi Sri], this is more fine dining, city center&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.smallasia.nl/ Small Asia], casual place with Asian style food, mostly Indonesian, city center&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://sarikoering.nl/ Sari Koering], close to city center&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Chinese food ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.asianglories.nl/ Asian Glories], more fine dining, city center&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://tai-wu.nl/ Tai Wu], traditional Chinese food, dim sum, city center&lt;br /&gt;
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Hung Kee, on de Witte de Withstraat 61B, famous for good very late night food. Open until 4:30/5:30AM on weeknights, until 6:30AM on Friday an Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Japanese food ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The best Japanese restaurant in the city - by far - is [https://www.jcyama.com/ Yama] be sure to make reservations long before.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Food related events ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.debuik.nl/rotterdam/agenda Food related events]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hackerspace ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rotterdam hackerspace is called [https://pixelbar.nl/ Pixelbar] and has social night on Wednesdays and Saturdays.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pixelbar is close to Metro and Tram station Marconiplein, which is around 15-20 minutes from Rotterdam Central Station by Public Transport.&lt;br /&gt;
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For legal reasons concerning the building Pixelbar is in &#039;&#039;&#039;nobody is allowed to sleep in the hackerspace&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sightseeing in and around Rotterdam ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Santa Claus, or as the locals lovingly call him: kabouter Buttplug. Go see for yourself [http://www.bkor.nl/beelden/santa-claus/ here]&lt;br /&gt;
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A complete map of art in public space in Rotterdam can be found [http://www.bkor.nl/plattegrond/ here]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cinema ==&lt;br /&gt;
We mostly do this thing called subtitles in The Netherlands, so that means quite some screenings are also interesting for non-Dutch speakers.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a big yearly art house film festival in Rotterdam that is worth visiting, [https://iffr.com/en the International Film Festival Rotterdam]&lt;br /&gt;
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The nicest cinema in the city is [https://kinorotterdam.nl/ Kino]. Here you can take your fancy cocktail (or your beer or soda) with you into the cosy screening rooms and watch the better choice of movies. From time to time they do [special events https://kinorotterdam.nl/film/?selectie=specials], like screening [https://kinorotterdam.nl/specials/pixar/  a series of old Pixar movies]. In sommer they offer a selection of nice snacks, in the winter months they run a pretty good restaurant as well. City center.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another nice cinema is [https://www.cineramabios.nl/ Cinerama]. It has a very charming seventies look and feel. City center.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the south side of the river you find cinema and theater [https://www.lantarenvenster.nl/ Lantaren/Venster]. Here you find arthouse films and concerts in a nice and light modern building. They also have a restaurant.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are also [https://www.pathe.nl/bioscoopagenda/rotterdam two Pathé cinema&#039;s in the city], one in the city center and one on the south side of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You can&#039;t cross a street in Rotterdam without seeing a [https://www.susanbijl.nl/ Susan Bijl] shopping bag. They are stylish, foldable and available in many color combinations. For special events they often make special editions. Meanwhile they also sell foldable bagpacks in the same design. City center.&lt;br /&gt;
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At [http://www.pettr.nl/ Pettr] they have an extensive soap collection. Some locally made, others imported, all beautiful and nice. Their tiny lovely shop is only open on Wednesdays but [https://www.pettrzeep.nl/ they do mailorder as well]. Highly recommended. Close to city center.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course I have to mention cookingroffa&#039;s bakery here, [https://www.dasbrot.nl/ Das Brot]. Open from Wednesday to Saturday, check [https://www.dasbrot.nl/ the website] for more info. Close to city center (and [http://www.bkor.nl/beelden/santa-claus/ kabouter Buttplug])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Travel in and to Rotterdam ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Public transport in general ===&lt;br /&gt;
When travelling by public transport in The Netherlands, we recommend a [https://www.ov-chipkaart.nl/purchase-an-ov-chipkaart.htm public transport (OV) chip card]. It can be purchased i.a. at stations, at counters of operators, in newsagents and in supermarkets. Alternatively you can buy single tickets at the station or on the bus. &lt;br /&gt;
Another option is the [https://tranzer.com/ Tranzer app]. With this app, you can buy tickets for all the train companies, the Connexxion buses and the RET. Your ticket will appear in your app after purchase and it allows you to travel immediately, using your phone. Checking in and out and a chip card is not required. Various taxi services, such as Uber, can also be ordered with Tranzer.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== By train to Rotterdam ===&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the fastest and easiest ways to get to Rotterdam is to travel by train. Intercity trains hailing from every corner of the Netherlands make a stop at Rotterdam Central Station, including the high-speed train. The fastest connection between Amsterdam, Schiphol, Rotterdam and Breda is the NS Intercity Direct. It runs twice per hour. When travelling between Schiphol and Rotterdam, you will have to pay an Intercity Direct surcharge.&lt;br /&gt;
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When travelling from France and Belgium, you should take the Thalys (it runs ten times per day). When travelling from the United Kingdom, you will arrive direct by Eurostar.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://en.rotterdam.info/locations/centraal-station-rotterdam/ Rotterdam Central Station] is in the heart of the city and has had a total makeover in recent years, making the station one of the most iconic architectural features in Rotterdam.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Main Page</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: /* Events */&lt;/p&gt;
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== About Us ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Milliways is a big group of information security specialists on hacker camps. We bring big&lt;br /&gt;
infrastructure which we plan and built ourselves. The intercontinental logistics include self&lt;br /&gt;
constructed installations. We provide a space for discussions and networking…&lt;br /&gt;
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We feed hundreds of hackers with self-cooked food out of our self-built infrastructure.&lt;br /&gt;
Milliways has appeared on several hacker camps in Europe and in North America and has been in existence since 2003.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Events ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Future ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[toorcamp2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ toorcamp 2020 has also been cancelled for 2020 and moved to 2021]&lt;br /&gt;
June 23-28 2020, San Juan Islands, US&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[EMFCAMP2020]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://blog.emfcamp.org/2020/03/25/emf-2020-cancelled/ EMFCamp 2020 has been cancelled.]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[hackermovies]]&lt;br /&gt;
TBD&lt;br /&gt;
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[[37c3]] - moved online and distributed&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Past ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[36c3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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December 27-30 2019, Leipzig, DE&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp 2019]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[35c3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[EMFCAMP2018]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Drinkups]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infrastructure ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Dome]] - Dome and Dome related stuff&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Tents]] - Blue and Green Tent&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Communications]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Boxes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Projects ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[mail2jail]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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== Swag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We do coins and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways Seafile for SVG files.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[camp2019-t-shirt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year)&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
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allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
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We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
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link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
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== travel tips ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[travel2rotterdam]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2karlsruhe]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2leipzig]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2camp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
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		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190630</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: moved from pad, needs formatting&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Minutes for the kickoff meeting&lt;br /&gt;
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* Begin: 20190630  1400 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
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Mumble&lt;br /&gt;
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Begin: 20190630  1400 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
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TOPs:&lt;br /&gt;
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    Groups &lt;br /&gt;
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    Anything urgent?&lt;br /&gt;
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    gitea is running (tickets)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly is not happy with the ticket system. I&#039;d like to have a more generic ticket system that is intended for tickets and not something that also makes tickets.&lt;br /&gt;
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    rocket miliways/camp orga&lt;br /&gt;
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    wood on camp&lt;br /&gt;
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    money / donations for milliways on camp 2019 - how?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly has a new job starting seprtember. as a consequence mc.fly will not have money to throw at milliways at all. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    as we don&#039;t have an organisation we need creative ways of collecting money and money commitments.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    postcards to jail&lt;br /&gt;
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    kitchen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    buildup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    wiki cleanup/missing stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    communication / further meetings&lt;br /&gt;
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present:&lt;br /&gt;
    valka&lt;br /&gt;
    s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
    mcfly&lt;br /&gt;
    mwfc&lt;br /&gt;
    macker&lt;br /&gt;
    betz&lt;br /&gt;
    fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
    snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
    Karl&lt;br /&gt;
    betz&lt;br /&gt;
    crypt&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
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minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
    I&#039;m just  an observer/guest bc my laptop is screwed up, so no speaking from me&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
    Cluster:&lt;br /&gt;
        wiki  https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/c92c3d04-38b5-4a29-b954-e14cdb3a8ee0/edit&lt;br /&gt;
    EMF is part of the milliways Cluster&lt;br /&gt;
    Milliways&lt;br /&gt;
    Toorcamp&lt;br /&gt;
    (freeside, sigsegv, &lt;br /&gt;
    Belgiums&lt;br /&gt;
    Hardwarehacking&lt;br /&gt;
    Fri3d camp village&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
    no confirmation of the place, but looks like it is final. &amp;quot;do not worry&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
    wiki cleanup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        we are starting to structure the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Water planning needs to be on the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    any wishes/suggestions?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    deadlines(!) ordering, what to order, &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    buildup needs expansion (WiP)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wood for buildup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    CCC orga needs to get wood, &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mcfly has contact and ccc orga is looking into it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    transportation should be kept in mind&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    issue: we need wood as long as possible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    option to build house for kitchen -&amp;gt; needs masses of wood&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    c3loc will provide wood, we can get wood from sawmill nearby too&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    oberfräse is missing, router -&amp;gt; mcfly will most likely bring one&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    budget&lt;br /&gt;
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Money&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    price for coins?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    awgh and macker almost broke even last year for toorcamp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coins need to be about 60\&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    while sticking to our roots; worked for us&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    so macker went through 140 coins for toorcamp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    but bought 125&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    and toorcamp is 500 people&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    How many coinds do you generally sell at camp?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    3 coin designs, has been shared on GPN, extra cost 120 euro&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    how many coins to order&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    many want all three cons&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    suggestion 1x 25, milliways for 50, 60 euro for all 3 coins&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    150-200 coins per color -&amp;gt; 600 coins &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we currently dont have much money, mc.fly has paid a lot of our bills&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    We will have money day1 evening, but need to pay more in advance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    making T-Shirts? not being a entity is an issue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we need volunteers to order stuff and not get issues &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    macker work with our coin guy, might be able to front it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Eric Perez| Challenge Coins PLUS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    5840 Red Bug Lake Road, Suite 35 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Winter Springs, Florida 32708&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    T: 1-800-252-0904 |&lt;br /&gt;
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    F: 1-866-226-7303 |&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
    Order wishlist is one option, Starting an entity is another&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    dutch stitching would be an option, but paperwork&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Wishlist on the wiki, amazon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kickstarter is an issue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    low level of fuckups is desired (receipts, filing taxes, paperwork)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    crypt is looking into UK situations&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly checked stitching (nl)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    600 coins -&amp;gt; 1300 euros +- 100&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    timing? -&amp;gt; 2-4 weeks, 6 weeks desired -&amp;gt; mcfly is on it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Biggest cost factor: food 25000 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    beer around 4k&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Handling cash on site is an issue (proper bills)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Ideas?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    handling food -&amp;gt; vokue? what is their issue, proper paperwork&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Time is running out for camp, clubs can be nearly instant, stichting around 2d setup time&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    How much money do we need to raise 4-6k asap would be nice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    trying to avoid advancing it by few people (spread risk)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    So do we even have  ac oin design yet? - macker&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    I set upa  milliiways bank account (where? SEPA?) - umpqua BANK&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    still in works though&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    unfortunately its still going thorugh the system as a 501(c)3 non-profit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    wont be ready in time&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    and its under teh name &#039;milliways international&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    costing me afortune but fk it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    well it was made/in process for our american branch&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    but we dont really have borders anymore (USA bank accounts cost a shitload for EU people to wire too, in EU it is basicly free)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    yeah well it works the same here, my tix had an extra 50 bucks just saying&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Lucky highly recommends setting up accounts in the U.S. and EU using TransferWise. Lucky is a super satisfied customer. Could not be happier.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     https://www.transferwise.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    This is the perfect solution for people in the U.S. paying in USD via intra-US bank ACH, but the money ending up in your EU bank account in EUR via IBAN. Or the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    They offer dirt cheap transfers (typically under EUR 1 in-region). And offer stunningly good foreign exchange rates. Far better than any bank, who totally rip off their customers on the currency conversion rate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    They also offer the same for Australia, if you have a need for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     (having both might be ideal)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Org needs to be EU, ideally schengen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we have a cardmachine to convert CC to cash for trusted people&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    can you just take square off an old iphone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    original plan was to putting off an org as long as possible, and we do have our own event, but we are very close now in size&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    valka would step up to handle money (thanks)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    communicate a fixed point where you can donate (valka is infodesk)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    I have business accounts all over as well&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    would rather not handle money but if something needs to be put somewhere for logistics, we have accounts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    leave as little papertrail as possible. do a final accounting directly after camp/on camp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    pay to who?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    people or orgs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    We divy it out to the makers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Just need to know if I should buy coins&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    and if we have  adesign yet for that matter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    option one: Legal org:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    german club:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mwfc looks into german club situation, next week money - snoopy startet to look into this, connecting those 2 after mumble.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    british club:crypt, mc.fly, mwfc look into legal situation for entity (UK)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    dutch foundation:  crypt, mc.fly, mwfc look into legal situation for entity (UK, NL, DE)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    option two: no legal org, we do it as in the past:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    members advance money (via CCs) and get money back&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    ^^ agreed upon as summary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;got a stack of tehm ~ valka&amp;quot; lol&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we have a quorum&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
postcards to jail&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    limited work, mc.fly asked designers, supply us with postcards, people who do stickers, we will include julian assange, even if unpopular, working on address for snowden, call for inmates we forgot please note to mc.fly, persons doing it (name) second person is panda&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    pinguino has been asked for design&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    beetlebum (german) has been asked as way&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;official postcards&amp;quot; we will have&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    two more designers have been asked&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    it is rather cheap (postcards)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    there will be ccc stamps \o/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    milliways stamps will come (totally legit german postage ones)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Not much to organize there, place on camp, organizing (on site) it, printing it &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    WAIT!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Should I bring my milliways stamp I had made? (only (legit) german stamps help us)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Buildup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    best day to be there, and not go again&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    16th evening action will start on site many people offered help&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we probably have enough people showing up there&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    EMF folks will arrive 20th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    valka, s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coderobe, fellmoon offered to bring tools&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mcfly offered some tools too -&amp;gt; coordination&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Belgian embassy has tools too&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; wiki buildup page to coordinate &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    (TODO insert tools here)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Miketango has a lot of stuff -&amp;gt; transportation is an issue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    9th dump of stuff will happen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    (timeline in wiki)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    collection of Arrival dates might be nice&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    tudle at tu-dresden or mafia hamburg for arrival &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    stuff for power distribution -&amp;gt; at miketango place -&amp;gt; planning -&amp;gt; konvektomat -&amp;gt; whether it can be converted to camping gas from &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teardown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kitchen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Have them plan autonmous Nina is here currently&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    will provide food day 0 - +1 morning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    spontanous food&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Recipe collection in wiki, help us fill it! (with favorites)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    So even before day 0 there will be &amp;quot;planned food&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Coffee and Tea seperate from kitchen, with real espresso machine (fellmoon is on it)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Barista will be there, who have coffee chain. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Tankmachine -&amp;gt; no water pressure needed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    List of kitchen helpers will need to be organized&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kitchen probably needs own mumbles? -&amp;gt; yes, they will coordinate back&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Teams that want to cook?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    EMF has something occassional pools&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    british evening&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Belgians and hardware hacking ... Vegan food it needs to be coordinated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cccamp19-foodpool&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    deal is: hardware hacking and belgians do the vegan stuff, we do the non vegan stuff for them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Physical Location on Camp Site&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://seafile.milliways.info/f/f67da8ac724b4578bb1c/  top right&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Water is between the trees&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Workshop thing will be  behind us&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    We will have access to train tracks&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Hardware hacking is in front of us&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Truck (bus on the left)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Betz is organizing the fablab(?) truck&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    hardware hacking made map: https://eu.hostiso.cloud/index.php/s/HxDWMWxdCsT6SkX of wish&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    it &amp;quot;should&amp;quot; fit, needs some checking and whether we get the location&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    space next to it for Fried? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Fried is a small camp, orga people, will come back with numbers (fri3d.be)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    (TODO mcfly explanation here)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    option: s3krit and valka suggested having tents in the &amp;quot;allee&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Trees will be illuminated with professional stuff \o/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Will need tent shade - my tent is 4 season 14 lbs, but small&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    train station will be on other side, might be shitty place to tent&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    shadow of trees probably north of trees for sunshide day&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    shadow in the morning? -&amp;gt;to the right of us are trees&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    tents next to the house&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Theft isnt a problem? I would assume not&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    also our pics had a water spigot a- prob not camp next to that&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comms&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    regular meetings&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    This time and day fits some -&amp;gt; problems for US&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mcfly is mostly busy in the evening on Sundays, would like ot be on meetings&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    15:00 is the latest for mcfly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Other days?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kitchen/buildup critical&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    sundays/saturdays every other week? + however a team plans stuff&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    one hour long.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Next week there will be one then biweekly until camp&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190811&amp;diff=1689</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190811</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190811&amp;diff=1689"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:51:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: moved from pad, needs formatting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;MOVED TO WIKI FOR DOCUMENTATION&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ohai!&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s Sunday August 11th at 20h CEST, so it&#039;s time for the mumble!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
server address: mumble.milliways.info port 64738&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mumble meeting is recorded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please give yourself also a name. On the right side there is the participations list. click on the &amp;quot;ppl&amp;quot; button and change your name from unnnamed to something more real plz.&lt;br /&gt;
Participants of this meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    oTTr&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kraln&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Shadow&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Foxboron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Karl&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    valka&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    pidgey&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
9. fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
10. snoopy (listening)&lt;br /&gt;
11. Macker&lt;br /&gt;
12. Nina (only listening)&lt;br /&gt;
13.Malaclypse (listening)&lt;br /&gt;
14. Kekhmet&lt;br /&gt;
15. Augeas&lt;br /&gt;
16. carton&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To order:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    water hose drinking water quality. 60m&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address on camp site:&lt;br /&gt;
Ziegeleipark Mildenberg&lt;br /&gt;
CCC - milliways - &amp;lt;your nick/name&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Ziegelei 10&lt;br /&gt;
16792 Zehdenick (OT Mildenberg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Topics for today&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    quick questions and updates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    doodle - please add your availibility to the doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/milliwaysarrival/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Truck/buildup schedule -&amp;gt; Truck arrives 14th -&amp;gt; main buildup days: 16th &amp;amp; 17th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://epad.milliways.info/p/0ZJ1CJJsDD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    still in need for people help loading in Essen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    finances - donations &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    donations are running well&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coins -&amp;gt; are shipping now&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    stamps -&amp;gt; no updates, we need to chase them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    postcards -&amp;gt; 3 motives available, we want 10 in total to order a set&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    beer status&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Reservation for 20 kegs and beer benches, 5 &amp;quot;Biertheken&amp;quot;, 2 with a sink for the kitchen and bakery&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Cooling trailer ordered&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    so far not many preorders&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    electricity&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Everything connected to the grid needs a FI / RCD. Everything from the wish list is ordered&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    haviland is nost likely not comming to camp -&amp;gt; coderobe will look after power on side&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    water&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fittings/adapters needed &amp;gt; stuff to order?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    toorcamp tent - adas coffee shop&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    beer tap - with sink&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kitchen - with sink&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    backery&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    water system tested on around 18th, no new connections after that date Double check!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    plz pay CO2 compensation direct to MikeTango.  He will sign a napkin for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Kitchen Hygine&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    for &amp;quot;Ehrenamtliche Tätigkeit&amp;quot; which we definitly do reading a simple written introduction should be fine. At least BW and BY say this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://www.service-bw.de/leistung/-/sbw/Belehrung+und+Bescheinigung+nach+dem+Infektionsschutzgesetz-789-leistung-0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://www.kreis-freising.de/buergerservice/abteilungen-und-sachgebiete/gesundheitsamt/belehrungen-nach-4243-infektionsschutzgesetz-ifsg.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    At GPN they used this: https://www.landkreis-karlsruhe.de/media/custom/1076_280_1.PDF?1214299243&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190728&amp;diff=1688</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190728</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190728&amp;diff=1688"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:51:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: moved from pad, needs formatting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
ohai!&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s Sunday July 28th at 21h CEST, so it&#039;s time for the mumble!&lt;br /&gt;
server address: mumble.milliways.info port 64738&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mumble meeting is recorded.&lt;br /&gt;
https://seafile.milliways.info/f/db92a8aa711041f8912c/ &amp;lt;- recording of the mumble&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please give yourself also a name. On the right side there is the participations list. click on the &amp;quot;ppl&amp;quot; button and change your name from unnnamed to something more real plz.&lt;br /&gt;
Participants of this meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Jaq&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    oTTr&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kraln&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    valka&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    boreq&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    carton&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    malaclypse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    aestetix&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    cobolt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    KutmasteR&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    snoopy - listening&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kekhmet&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Divide&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Nyx - listening&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coderobe - joined 21:52&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Topics for today&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    quick questions and updates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    doodle - please add your availibility to the doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/milliwaysarrival/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coming/leaving schedule &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    have a list of when people are coming-/leaving on the wiki?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    have a list of when VEHICLES are coming/leaving on the wiki?  -- mule services.  UK people are doing this secretly already.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    finances - donations &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    What happend to the t-shirts? - Payment is hard to organise in the current state -&amp;gt; moved to next time&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    stickers (willscott) - 1000 in my possesion&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    patches/flags?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    goal: 300 patches, mix of b&amp;amp;w &amp;amp; color.  cost &amp;lt;= $1.50/ea if they agree to mix under &amp;quot;300 patch&amp;quot; discount&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    postal stamps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fem on #milliways organizes mail to jail&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    eur0,95 (milliways stamp, intl) or eur0,60 (milliways stamp, .de only) + eur0,35 (generic stamp)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; decision: 208 stamps for eur0,60 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    when/how much is best for donations? (before camp, how much to donate for coins, food, &amp;quot;all-inclusive&amp;quot;, beer, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    2 ways to donate&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    act as a &#039;loan&#039; - gets repaid out of the on-site donations if milliways does not make horrible losses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    donate normally - that is your donation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; What do we need more of, and how do we get more of it?  Do we have enough loans?  Is pre-camp donation streamlined enough (valka overloaded with tracking small donations?  not enough coming in?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    €25 for coin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    €50 for coin+food&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    for beer talk to mcfly about donating a keg (~€100 a keg)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Donations: buckets/mailbox&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Possibly to use a card reader for donations -&amp;gt; would need somebody to do infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    call for wood orders&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Check with CCC when the deadline is &amp;lt;-- deadline TODAY&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    2 x (enough OSB + few pieces of lumber for a 4x8m floor), and probably the same again to construct a small &#039;hut&#039; for infodesk.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    toorcamp dome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32300052043.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Dome is 8 meters in diameter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    TikiTech Bar&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Bar will be mobile and in different location around CCC each evening&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Soft opening - test will be Tuesday night at Milliways camp for campers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Jaq and Div will be heading project and invite any interested to join in planning or help&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    beer status -- mcfly is doing the bier&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    double tap:  two beers at the same time&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    buy maté from CCC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    also bench, table, bench come from the biervendor&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    also cooling trailer comes from the biervendor&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    donate a keg of beer on the wiki.  This lets you choose the beer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    benches/tables &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    rentable from ccc or beervendor? selfbuilding? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mostly likely beer vendor, meaning we don&#039;t need deadline tonight&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    ask subvillages about furniture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    ccc rentable deadline TONIGHT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    way cheaper to rent from beer-vendor &amp;gt; e-mail with call for furniture will come soon (valka?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    dates for cobolt bus - aug 16 to aug 27 - parking pass? Cobolt bus call number +4407497787998 (cell, iMessage, WhatsApp, signal, telegram, wire, line)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Truck&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    7.2 tonne truck&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    cobolt can check corporate discounts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    corporate discount is up to 20%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    electricity&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    is Havilland still in to do this? does he need help? (has a lot of stuff to do, will try to give us feedback until Wednesday)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    up to 32A 400V.  https://map.c3noc.net/#17.87/53.032251/13.309252 then click &amp;lt;power&amp;gt; layer in the middle-right layers control.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    every village and tent needs to bring their own 230V power cables unless you have talked to milliways electricity team&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    need small switchmode PSUs (5V) for card10 (badge) mesh network (esp32 beacons spread across wherever we want coverage)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    also would like to get esp32 boards for the duration of camp to extend this network, i only have a handful. - coderobe&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    group dishwasher status - the planned public dishwasher is moved to the family village as it seems&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190721&amp;diff=1687</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190721</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190721&amp;diff=1687"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:50:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: moved from pad, needs formatting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sunday 2019-07-21&lt;br /&gt;
Start: 2100 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Topics:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Watchtowers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    can I have the needed area? -&amp;gt; tuxcoder (it in the map already)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    every subvillage is asked to make a (glowing) logo to put on the towers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Logistics Updates&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    when will interenet be avalable on site - we can get a hotspot with external antenna from SuperQ Carl will pick up most likely&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    p01ar and X41 have unlimited roaming inside the EU: will be made available for anyone planning or for admin, just ask&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    may be bad cell signal, may be a fair use limit, so dont rely on it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    expect when buildup of camp is done&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Financials/donations&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coins&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    3 type fo coins of 200 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    1 coin 25,-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    set of coins - 65,-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    people who eat &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    another donation run&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    will there be broader donations in advance of camp?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    hope for 50euro / participant&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    blog.milliways.info needs another post and then a tweetstorm towards that&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    lists of costs so far / planned&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    make costs transparent to potential donors&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Oven was 600 + 100 to convert gas type&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coins - how much?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    transport - tent a 12to truck + van - 1000eur+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    should people be able to pre-pay for coins / food?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Valka is tracking it. Can mention in advance this is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Food Budget: Historically budget is about 12-13 EUR/person&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    contact heads of villages&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    create wiki page&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    for donation cost calculate 450 breakfast / lunch and 650 dinner&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Status of participation counts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Need to know how much food to buy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    buildup / takedown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    transport to and from camp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    12 to truck&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    renting a truck near mainz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    expected cost 1000eur+ fuel + road tax&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    12to truck Mainz -&amp;gt; Koblenz -&amp;gt; Essen -&amp;gt; Camp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    12to truck camp -&amp;gt; Essen -&amp;gt; Koblenz -&amp;gt; Mainz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Cobolt BUS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Can be rented as early as August 13th Cobolt needs to know when we are going to start needing Bus services&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    rent by cobolt, 9 seate&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    pickup from berlin pre-camp &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    transport back to berlin after camp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    shuttle outside shuttle times&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    food runs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    VW Bus, rent by cobolt, 9 seater&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    toorcamp van?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    further cars&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    shuttle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    uk folk have a bunch of cars, but not really money for fuel, willing to transport with fuel funds&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    anyone who hasnt booked travel from the UK to germany consider talking to coven, we are driving&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    down and have spare seats&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    HVAC stuff&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    possible misting system?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fans&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kitchen will nee some for sure, check amazon wish list and add if not&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Power&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    talk to Havilland&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Beer - who deals with it?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    is there a volunteer there that would like to deal with the Beer before and on camp together with mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Nicolai can handle this&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    talking to beer companies&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    last time vendor gastro circus, 35 kegs, eur90/KeG&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Beer cooling trailer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Beer benches&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Ausschankwagen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Overview of kegs, talking to beer suppliers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Watching the tap status -&amp;gt; oTTr can help here&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly finds contact data of gastro circus -&amp;gt; gives it to superQ&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    marktkraanen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly needs to finally do that. :-D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    transport from rotterdam&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    status coins, other stuff to order&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    update from subvillages - do we miss something&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Collect contanct points&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Headcounts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    for sleeping&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    for eating&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Kitchen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kitchen team has mumble meeting monday July 22 19:00 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    when is electricity availible? Ask c3power on rocket -&amp;gt; power team (Havilland)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    before electricity gas equip - grill and gas plates&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Menu should be complete this week&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    most useful is complete meal plans - main, sides, veg options, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Probably need a driver in Berlin for equipment and food pickup (CobaltBus)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Also need equipment to Berlin return&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Plates: IKEA metal bowls from last camp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Open question: is the central dishwasher happening?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    rent cooled storage space at cool-village, contact: https://t.me/coolvillage&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Cost: ~ 48EUR for whole timespan&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Service starts (tentatively): 2019-08-20 in the morning (10:00)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    map&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    moved to tomorrow&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    what is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; area&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    south of the freeside tent&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    position of differen stuff:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    HVAC&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    other big stuff&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    space for tents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    discoball to create tree-faeries -- https://www.ebay.de/itm/273665896432 ball + motor are ordered to kraln.  need rainlight or sth to point at it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    what is again in the middle of the circle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    MikeTango preassembly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    towers test-assembled&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    pool was test-assembled.  takes 1hr to disassemble after draining.  got some kind of approval from someone who could veto it(?).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    hobotent is complete&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    X41/goat/p01ar/grufwub have to leave early, discuss these if you wish, hit p01ar up on IRC if you have questions&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    camp safety precautions for milliways and sub villiages&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fire safety&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fire extinguishers? - CO2 extinguishers available&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fire blankets - kitchen has 2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    smoker &amp;amp; german forest dryness fire categories&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    III - no charcoal grills, propane ok&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    IV - smoker allowed but will be scrutinized for sparks, no charcoal grills, propane ok  &amp;lt;-- expected&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    V - no smoker, no charcoal grills, propane ok  &amp;lt;-- possible worst-case&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    AI(?) superq wants contact from smoker guys.  wants to know what day smoker will be smoking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; dryness category probalby not a question because they already bought a ferry ticket&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    maybe put out additional ashtrashs, picking up the filters was annoying last time&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    medical safety&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    space blankets to coat tents, keep them cool&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    hydration / food supplies &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    in talks with the scottish assembly about rehydration packs that can be given out at milliways &amp;amp; sub camps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    large barrel of drinkabl water, or access to a tap?.. &amp;lt;&amp;lt; access to kitchen area..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Participants:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    valka&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Foxboron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    tuxcoder&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    willscott&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    oTTr&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    kgz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    malaclypse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    X41&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    P01arst0rm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    goat&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Grufwub&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    sleepyentropy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    snoopy - listening&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    gatkeeeper - listening&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    cobolt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    SuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuperQ&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Kekhmet&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    russss&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    panda&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    azafran&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    carton&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190707&amp;diff=1686</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190707</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190707&amp;diff=1686"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:48:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: first import, needs formatting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Start: 1400 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Participants:&lt;br /&gt;
    mwfc&lt;br /&gt;
    Karl&lt;br /&gt;
    valka&lt;br /&gt;
    s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
    coderobe&lt;br /&gt;
    oTTr&lt;br /&gt;
    X41&lt;br /&gt;
    U_1F410&lt;br /&gt;
    tuxcoder&lt;br /&gt;
    MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
    n0p (spanish village)&lt;br /&gt;
    Foxboron&lt;br /&gt;
    boreq&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Topics:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Recording&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    camp layout/map https://seafile.milliways.info/f/096a6fe643164b748c6c/   https://www.milliways.info/cccamp19-map/dist/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    next mumble?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
minutes:&lt;br /&gt;
    Recording:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        we are recording&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Donations:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we gotten quite a few, we got it via all channels&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fellmoon is willing to advance money for purchases&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    wishlist is being done&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    valka is nicely handling it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    tshirts will happen soonish (mcfly was doing it?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Miketango is building stuff and tries to keep cost down &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    status rental truck? -&amp;gt; no idea (getting 7,5to short notice is not much a problem)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we will need a 12 to truck. MT and mc.fly looked into options.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Food budget needs to be worked on&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    camp layout:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    TODO fill from recording&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    we are at a emergency egress line, next to end of camp not much traffic there, much shade&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    dishwasher large in the left&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    two watchtowers for alley&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    camonetting over the little tents for shading&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    shitload of it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    talk to valka for transportation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    lighting &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    http://flash-butrym.pl/pl/p/LED-PAR-64-18x12W-RGBW-4w1-ZOOM-IP65/219&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    DMX will be available ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    one tent not in map yet needs transportation ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    sleeping tent for 30 mil people (hobo)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Miketango tries to get stuff from landlord (paintball area) -&amp;gt; transportation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    powertools logistics (coderobe but coming w/o car)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Mannheim-&amp;gt; Koblenz -&amp;gt; Essen -&amp;gt; A3 could do pick up with truck&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Map for pickup and logistic&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Stash locations -&amp;gt; decentralize vehicles(stuff)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    OSM layer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Labels&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Flow control kitchen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; line come in via gate notch instead of from within milliways area&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Mark places for no tents &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    9th hit ground with truck (unload in one tent)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    16th many people come for buildup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    plan layout&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    how to keep people from not camping wild? (police line on the floor worked before, &amp;quot;people respected it&amp;quot;, pin in ground, no obstacle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; do we have that? Miketango has some few hundred meters -&amp;gt; get more. We have police lines :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Tools:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    make a list -&amp;gt; wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    make a list of tools needed for what equipment -&amp;gt; wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Miketango brings the &amp;quot;usual&amp;quot; will show pictures, no list available.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Very much appreciated. Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Vectoring DMX laser might be available (coderobe)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Second dome belongs to whom? (toorcamp?) Needs to be build&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Miketango only brings accomodation temps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Marketstands are in the middle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Beerbenches might be rented from CCC Orga&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Power for buildup -&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Benches can be provided by beer company delivering&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    C3Loc will do a hardware store via pretix&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    mcfly was in contact for kifata&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    sawmill is quite close&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Infodesk, floors etc need to be build&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    hobo dome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    parachute stuff x4 owned by miketango &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Mapping for OSM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -&amp;gt; do it :) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    which tools? (??)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    sounds cool&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    pictures from drone flyover (2cm per pixel, they do a zoomable maplayer) (miketango has the 50 gb of pictures)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    https://cloud.zivillian.de/index.php/s/B49dTumypHGVe1N&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    buildup:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    15th/16th is a good time to come for buildup (do we need to register? with CCC?) -&amp;gt; find out. (mwfc)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Next mumble: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    21st July&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Miketango help wanted for prefabbing (Koblenz)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Food:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    who is in charge? All handled we assume. (not mentioned today)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Cooling truck -&amp;gt; we need space for it, ask superq &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    spanish village &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    30 people (3 RVs on caravans zone)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    6x9 tent from orga&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Will arrive the 19th the soonest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    ~5 vehicles coming from spain (3RVs 2 cars)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1685</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1685"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:46:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: killed pads, moved them into wiki pages.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Mumble &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Server: mumble.milliways.info&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190707]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190721]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190728]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190811]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=38c3-voucher-queue&amp;diff=1684</id>
		<title>38c3-voucher-queue</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=38c3-voucher-queue&amp;diff=1684"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:33:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;38c3 voucer queue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# cookingroffa&lt;br /&gt;
# mwfc&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=37c3&amp;diff=1683</id>
		<title>37c3</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=37c3&amp;diff=1683"/>
		<updated>2020-09-13T16:32:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;wiki page for 37c3.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
37c3 might happen, but not clear yet: https://events.ccc.de/#eng-status-37c3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it will be remote https://events.ccc.de/2020/09/04/rc3-remote-chaos-experience/#english&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If it happens its December 27-30 at the CCL in Leipzig. Get a hotel nearby. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[37c3-voucher-queue]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== crazy ideas ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== whiskyleaks ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a given. day 2 it is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== writing postcards to jail ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we want to give people the chance to write to some hackers leakers and like-minded people postcards and letters. We also try to set up something we can send them books and alike. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Need:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* table&lt;br /&gt;
* PR (fem) &lt;br /&gt;
* postcards (fem design ideas)&lt;br /&gt;
* pens&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== movies ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
only pirated movies allowed. Arr.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 23&lt;br /&gt;
* hackers&lt;br /&gt;
* wargames&lt;br /&gt;
* tron&lt;br /&gt;
* sneakers&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1510</id>
		<title>Boxes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1510"/>
		<updated>2020-01-01T20:11:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container Eurocrates (KLT)] have a common format that are standardized, best known from the bakery or meat industry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Auer is one of the producers in Germany:&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/RL-KLT-containers.html RL-KLT] they have a smooth bottom, so they cannot interlock, more volume per container tho&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/R-KLT-containers.html R-KLT] they have a [https://www.auer-packaging.com/images/products/800/R-KLT-containers-AUER--r-klt_6429-5003_03.jpg grid bottom], interlock is possible. (stack bigger boxes on smaller ones)&lt;br /&gt;
* Auer offers &amp;quot;Fehlfarben&amp;quot; when they change colour in production you get weird effects untill all old colours are pushed out, you get a 20% discount [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/R-KLT-containers/B-R-KLT-6429.html 60x40], Prices drop if you take a full pallet&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/Deckel-f%C3%BCr-R-KLT/R-KLT-D-65.html Lids] for grided(R-KLT) boxes&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/Place-on-lids-for-pallets-KLT.html Place on lid for pallet] to protect boxes during storage/transport&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== wishlist for milliways (order) ==&lt;br /&gt;
How many boxes do we need? full paletts reduce price significantly, same for B- Ware.&lt;br /&gt;
Which Sizes are desireable? Do we need seperate palette finish plates?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Hackermovies&amp;diff=1509</id>
		<title>Hackermovies</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Hackermovies&amp;diff=1509"/>
		<updated>2020-01-01T18:49:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It is the year 2020 and the Angelina Jolie, action packed movie Hackers from 1995 has been around for 25 years... we should do something about it!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Movielist:==&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243 Hackers]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126765 23]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Hackermovies&amp;diff=1508</id>
		<title>Hackermovies</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Hackermovies&amp;diff=1508"/>
		<updated>2020-01-01T18:29:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It is the year 2020 and the Angelina Jolie, action packed movie Hackers from 1995 has been around for 25 years... we should do something about it!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Hackermovies&amp;diff=1507</id>
		<title>Hackermovies</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Hackermovies&amp;diff=1507"/>
		<updated>2020-01-01T18:16:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: Created page with &amp;quot; It is the year 2020 and the Angelina Jolie, action packed movie Hackers from 1995 has been around for 15 years... we should do something about it!&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It is the year 2020 and the Angelina Jolie, action packed movie Hackers from 1995 has been around for 15 years... we should do something about it!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=1506</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=1506"/>
		<updated>2020-01-01T18:14:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;MediaWiki has been installed.&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Consult the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents User&#039;s Guide] for information on using the wiki software.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About Us ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Milliways is a big group of information security specialists on hacker camps. We bring big&lt;br /&gt;
infrastructure which we plan and built ourselves. The intercontinental logistics include self&lt;br /&gt;
constructed installations. We provide a space for discussions and networking...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We feed hundreds of hackers with self-cooked food out of our self-built infrastructure.&lt;br /&gt;
Milliways has appeared on several hacker camps in Europe and in North America and has been in existence since 2003.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Events ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The future: ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[toorcamp2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ toorcamp 2020 website]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
June 23-28 2020, San Juan Islands, US&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[EMFCAMP2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.emfcamp.org emfcamp 2020 website]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
July 24th– 26th 2020 Eastnor, UK&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[hackermovies]]&lt;br /&gt;
TBD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The past: ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[36c3]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
December 27-30 2019, Leipzig, DE&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp 2019]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[35c3]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[EMFCAMP2018]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Infrastructure ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dome]] - Dome and Dome related stuff&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tents]] - Blue and Green Tent&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Communications]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Boxes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Swag ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We do coins and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways seafile for svg files.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[camp2019-t-shirt]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year)&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== travel tips ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2rotterdam]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2karlsruhe]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2leipzig]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2camp]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Getting started ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Configuration_settings Configuration settings list]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:FAQ MediaWiki FAQ]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce MediaWiki release mailing list]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Localisation#Translation_resources Localise MediaWiki for your language]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Combating_spam Learn how to combat spam on your wiki]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019-logistic&amp;diff=1090</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019-logistic</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019-logistic&amp;diff=1090"/>
		<updated>2019-07-09T13:28:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: Created page with &amp;quot; Stuff that arrived:&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Stuff that arrived:&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1074</id>
		<title>Boxes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1074"/>
		<updated>2019-07-07T11:37:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: fixed nation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container Eurocrates (KLT)] have a common format that are standardized, best known from the bakery or meat industry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Auer is one of the producers in Germany:&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/RL-KLT-containers.html RL-KLT] they have a smooth bottom, so they cannot interlock, more volume per container tho&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/R-KLT-containers.html R-KLT] they have a [https://www.auer-packaging.com/images/products/800/R-KLT-containers-AUER--r-klt_6429-5003_03.jpg grid bottom], interlock is possible. (stack bigger boxes on smaller ones)&lt;br /&gt;
* Auer offers &amp;quot;Fehlfarben&amp;quot; when they change colour in production you get weird effects untill all old colours are pushed out, you get a 20% discount [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/R-KLT-containers/B-R-KLT-6429.html 60x40], Prices drop if you take a full pallet&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1073</id>
		<title>Boxes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1073"/>
		<updated>2019-07-05T11:23:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: fixed link&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container Eurocrates (KLT)] have a common format that are standardized, best known from the bakery or meat industry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Auer is one of the producers in Germany:&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/ht/en/RL-KLT-containers.html RL-KLT] they have a smooth bottom, so they cannot interlock, more volume per container tho&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/ht/en/R-KLT-containers.html R-KLT] they have a [https://www.auer-packaging.com/images/products/800/R-KLT-containers-AUER--r-klt_6429-5003_03.jpg grid bottom], interlock is possible. (stack bigger boxes on smaller ones)&lt;br /&gt;
* Auer offers &amp;quot;Fehlfarben&amp;quot; when they change colour in production you get weird effects untill all old colours are pushed out, you get a 20% discount [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/R-KLT-containers/B-R-KLT-6429.html 60x40], Prices drop if you take a full pallet&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1072</id>
		<title>Boxes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Boxes&amp;diff=1072"/>
		<updated>2019-07-05T11:08:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: Created page with &amp;quot;  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container Eurocrates (KLT)] have a common format that are standardized, best known from the bakery or meat industry.  Auer is one of the...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container Eurocrates (KLT)] have a common format that are standardized, best known from the bakery or meat industry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Auer is one of the producers in Germany:&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/ht/en/RL-KLT-containers.html RK-KLT] they have a smooth bottom, so they cannot interlock, more volume per container tho&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.auer-packaging.com/ht/en/RL-KLT-containers.html R-KLT] they have a [https://www.auer-packaging.com/images/products/800/R-KLT-containers-AUER--r-klt_6429-5003_03.jpg grid bottom], interlock is possible. (stack bigger boxes on smaller ones)&lt;br /&gt;
* Auer offers &amp;quot;Fehlfarben&amp;quot; when they change colour in production you get weird effects untill all old colours are pushed out, you get a 20% discount [https://www.auer-packaging.com/de/en/R-KLT-containers/B-R-KLT-6429.html 60x40], Prices drop if you take a full pallet&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=1071</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=1071"/>
		<updated>2019-07-05T10:58:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: /* Infrastructure */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;MediaWiki has been installed.&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Consult the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents User&#039;s Guide] for information on using the wiki software.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Events ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[EMFCAMP2018]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[35c3]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp 2019]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Infrastructure ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dome]] - Dome and Dome related stuff&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tents]] - Blue and Green Tent&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Communications]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Boxes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Swag ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We do coins and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways seafile for svg files.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[camp2019-t-shirt]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year)&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== travel tips ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2rotterdam]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2karlsruhe]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2leipzig]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[travel2camp]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Getting started ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Configuration_settings Configuration settings list]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:FAQ MediaWiki FAQ]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce MediaWiki release mailing list]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Localisation#Translation_resources Localise MediaWiki for your language]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Combating_spam Learn how to combat spam on your wiki]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1064</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1064"/>
		<updated>2019-06-29T11:10:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Mumble &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Server: mumble.milliways.info&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://epad.milliways.info/p/cccamp19-mumble General Pad for mumble]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1063</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1063"/>
		<updated>2019-06-29T11:09:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Mumble &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Server: mumble.milliways.info&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630&amp;diff=1062</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190630</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630&amp;diff=1062"/>
		<updated>2019-06-29T10:53:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Minutes for the kickoff meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Begin: 20190630  1400 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://epad.milliways.info/p/cccamp19-mumble-20190630 Minutes pad]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630&amp;diff=1061</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble 20190630</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble_20190630&amp;diff=1061"/>
		<updated>2019-06-29T10:51:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: Created page with &amp;quot;Minutes for the kickoff meeting  Begin: 20190630  1400 CEST&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Minutes for the kickoff meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Begin: 20190630  1400 CEST&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1060</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019 Mumble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019_Mumble&amp;diff=1060"/>
		<updated>2019-06-29T10:49:22Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015&lt;br /&gt;
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== travelers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp2019-participants|Participant page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.&lt;br /&gt;
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== teams ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== orga ===&lt;br /&gt;
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the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Kitchen ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Buildup/Teardown ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Infodesk ===&lt;br /&gt;
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the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== power + network ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== beer wish list ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp2019-beer-list|The beer wish list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg. &lt;br /&gt;
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The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.&lt;br /&gt;
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== HoBo Tents ==&lt;br /&gt;
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on camp 2015 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome. &lt;br /&gt;
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It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.&lt;br /&gt;
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Example (rummerytent)&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.&lt;br /&gt;
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coderobe is looking into this&lt;br /&gt;
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== Subvillages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/10b41734-3cb0-49dc-bb06-40982f5dfa42 scottish embassy] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== toorcamp ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/9dca1e84-ad37-454e-8da1-323aad3b19bc Sigsegv] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/1bcd2b85-9346-4abb-9b62-79de768add0e Freeside] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Icelandic Embassy? ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Belgian Embassy / [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/c4fdb697-bc67-425e-a374-3b0301743af3 Hardware Hacking Area] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://static.miraheze.org/httcwiki/a/ad/Bus-model-area-dimensioned.png Link to the layout of Belgian Embassy bus and its tent, with communal area and 1.5m perimeter]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/6179e671-f3cd-4195-8172-24e6d262a5a3 ELS] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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== crazy ideas ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways radio ===&lt;br /&gt;
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milliways radio on 104.2&lt;br /&gt;
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coderobe has a transmitter&lt;br /&gt;
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=== dutch market stands ===&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)&lt;br /&gt;
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this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter. &lt;br /&gt;
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Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic&lt;br /&gt;
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no benches&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;gt; Get precise price for 10 of these, do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Biiiicycles ===&lt;br /&gt;
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;gt; If we get it onto the truck we&#039;ll do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== high rotating milliways sign ===&lt;br /&gt;
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a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: valka, mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
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Need more signs and a rotating motor. &lt;br /&gt;
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#letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Metallic Starship ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: Felipe Sanches&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big &amp;quot;Falcon&amp;quot; Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.&lt;br /&gt;
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* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own &amp;quot;tails/wings&amp;quot; just like we&#039;ve seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== black in black spaceship ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a black spaceship.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: FellMoon&lt;br /&gt;
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Spotlight 1200W with &amp;quot;A-Gobo&amp;quot; available, but i&#039;d opt for a vectoring lazer.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways train ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As its in the brick museum again i&#039;d love to have a train.&lt;br /&gt;
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Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
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awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spiegelzelt ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea mc.fly &lt;br /&gt;
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Price: 12 670 euro&lt;br /&gt;
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* con&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich teurer&lt;br /&gt;
* pro&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich geil.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:&lt;br /&gt;
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- Tents&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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- Shade&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²&lt;br /&gt;
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A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes&lt;br /&gt;
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- Seating&lt;br /&gt;
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A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs&lt;br /&gt;
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- Lighting&lt;br /&gt;
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Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound&lt;br /&gt;
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Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken&lt;br /&gt;
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- Sound&lt;br /&gt;
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A PA or two &lt;br /&gt;
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- Truss&lt;br /&gt;
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Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high&lt;br /&gt;
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- Misc&lt;br /&gt;
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I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones. &lt;br /&gt;
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- What the Hack?&lt;br /&gt;
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On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i&#039;d love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you&#039;re worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I&#039;d love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys. &lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Support&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
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 #letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
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=== connected-milliways physical structure ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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pro: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lot&#039;s of space for graffiti, workshops etc.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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con: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lots of (physical) work &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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mc.fly:&lt;br /&gt;
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...&lt;br /&gt;
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still lets see if we can get something together there.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon &lt;br /&gt;
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like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections&lt;br /&gt;
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Pro: awesome lulz.&lt;br /&gt;
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Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;This bad taste of a &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; goes against CCC&#039;s principle of &amp;quot;Be excellent to each other&amp;quot;. Highly discouraged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways moving objects ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== rail vehicle ====&lt;br /&gt;
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bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we&#039;d like to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
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We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gauge is 500mm&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Sinclair C5-S ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
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awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.&lt;br /&gt;
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C5 forum: http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php&lt;br /&gt;
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=== working kitchen ===&lt;br /&gt;
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways lightboxes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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See turning sign above.&lt;br /&gt;
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We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===&lt;br /&gt;
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.&lt;br /&gt;
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container&lt;br /&gt;
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=== String Art in Dome ===&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/&lt;br /&gt;
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=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof&lt;br /&gt;
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alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more &amp;quot;structure&amp;quot; like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats &amp;amp; possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe nice idea to combine with (a) dutch market stand(s), another option would be to build a little shelter out of OSB wood and Tarp. Preferable reusable construction.&lt;br /&gt;
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willing to do/build:&lt;br /&gt;
- Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: mc.fly / fem&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. &amp;quot;mail to jail&amp;quot; is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of &amp;quot;teh intervewbz&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison. &lt;br /&gt;
 - it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond&lt;br /&gt;
 - adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as &amp;quot;gov&amp;quot; may be upset re codes on postcards).&lt;br /&gt;
All Cats Are Beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
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Support:&lt;br /&gt;
*Panda&lt;br /&gt;
*AnonymousVideo&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html&lt;br /&gt;
*FreeAnons&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.freeanons.org&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Milliways PCB art batch ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PCB with Milliways design in copper and solder mask plus some LEDs to light it up.&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe as soldering challenge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Example circuit https://hackaday.io/project/25265-an-unfortunate-smd-project#menu-description&lt;br /&gt;
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Example PCB art https://trmm.net/PCB_art&lt;br /&gt;
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== field day 10 nov 2018 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
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people going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
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== GPN last weekend of may ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN&lt;br /&gt;
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People going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# cookingroffa&lt;br /&gt;
# ryd (?)&lt;br /&gt;
# miketango&lt;br /&gt;
# superQ (?)&lt;br /&gt;
# tuxcoder&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Brain dump from GPN 31/05/2019 from s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
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dutch market things -&amp;gt; benches can come from brewing company&lt;br /&gt;
Dome would be a more public/central space (that can be used by satellite camps)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# 6x12 tent&lt;br /&gt;
# 4x8 kitchen&lt;br /&gt;
# 3x6 bakery&lt;br /&gt;
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We need to order wood, and there is a deadline for CCC for this, which we need to find out&lt;br /&gt;
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Helpdesk need a 3x3 bar/cool looking area &amp;lt;- also needs an information radiator (could just be a blackboard) for telling people vital information when walking past.&lt;br /&gt;
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MikeTango has lots of 246x122x12mm plywood/boards with rust paint (I think) - These can be used to build the tower(s)&lt;br /&gt;
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Logistics seem like the main sticking point - MikeTango&#039;s stuff is on the other side of Germany, Essen is the location of the Milliways storage. Getting this stuff from where it is to Camp feels like the largest thing to solve.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Eurocrates are awesome&amp;quot; - someone&lt;br /&gt;
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Look on Ebay for circular rotating &amp;gt;1m lichtbox&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Black on black spaceship 3x3m pad illuminated vlack matte black 2.0/3.0 flat windows 2x2m 20 black cheap&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
^ Need builders for this, possibly from the Rotterdam hackerspace. Light landing pads, etc would need UV paint (MikeTango knows the stuff to get).&lt;br /&gt;
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Lasercut milliways stencil in metal to fit a-gobo light&lt;br /&gt;
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Train (???) - one of the most useful things for this would be getting stuff from the Camp entrance to our village&lt;br /&gt;
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Sinclair C5 without motors - maybe speak to moving object people about turning this into something useful/cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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CCC Shuttle from berlin likely starts 2 or so days from the start of camp.&lt;br /&gt;
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== field day 08 june 2019 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
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people going:&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mumble ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Infrastructure ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Tents]] - Blue and Green Tent&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Lenticular Cloud]] - Milliways Cloud System&lt;br /&gt;
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== Swag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We do coins and stickers. If you want to make some - look in the milliways seafile for svg files.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[camp2019-t-shirt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015&lt;br /&gt;
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== Voucher wish list ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== orga ==&lt;br /&gt;
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the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kitchen ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Buildup/Teardown ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infodesk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== power + network ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.&lt;br /&gt;
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coderobe is looking into this&lt;br /&gt;
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== Subvillages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== scottish embassy? ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== toorcamp ===&lt;br /&gt;
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== crazy ideas ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Biiiicycles ===&lt;br /&gt;
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== high rotating milliways sign ===&lt;br /&gt;
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a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: valka, mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
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Need more signs and a rotating motor. &lt;br /&gt;
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#letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Metallic Starship ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: Felipe Sanches&lt;br /&gt;
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The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big &amp;quot;Falcon&amp;quot; Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.&lt;br /&gt;
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* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own &amp;quot;tails/wings&amp;quot; just like we&#039;ve seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: FellMoon&lt;br /&gt;
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Spotlight 1200W with &amp;quot;A-Gobo&amp;quot; available, but i&#039;d opt for a vectoring lazer.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways train ===&lt;br /&gt;
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As its in the brick museum again i&#039;d love to have a train.&lt;br /&gt;
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Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spiegelzelt ===&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea mc.fly &lt;br /&gt;
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Price: 12 670 euro&lt;br /&gt;
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* con&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich teurer&lt;br /&gt;
* pro&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich geil.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:&lt;br /&gt;
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- Tents&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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- Shade&lt;br /&gt;
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Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²&lt;br /&gt;
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A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes&lt;br /&gt;
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- Seating&lt;br /&gt;
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A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs&lt;br /&gt;
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- Lighting&lt;br /&gt;
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Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound&lt;br /&gt;
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Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken&lt;br /&gt;
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- Sound&lt;br /&gt;
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A PA or two &lt;br /&gt;
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- Truss&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high&lt;br /&gt;
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- Misc&lt;br /&gt;
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I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
- What the Hack?&lt;br /&gt;
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On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i&#039;d love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you&#039;re worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I&#039;d love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys. &lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Support&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
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 #letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
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=== connected-milliways physical structure ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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pro: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lot&#039;s of space for graffiti, workshops etc.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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con: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lots of (physical) work &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
mc.fly:&lt;br /&gt;
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...&lt;br /&gt;
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still lets see if we can get something together there.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections&lt;br /&gt;
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Pro: awesome lulz.&lt;br /&gt;
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Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;This bad taste of a &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; goes against CCC&#039;s principle of &amp;quot;Be excellent to each other&amp;quot;. Highly discouraged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways moving objects ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== rail vehicle ====&lt;br /&gt;
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bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we&#039;d like to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
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We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gauge is 500mm&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Sinclair C5-S ====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== working kitchen ===&lt;br /&gt;
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways lightboxes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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See turning sign above.&lt;br /&gt;
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We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===&lt;br /&gt;
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.&lt;br /&gt;
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container&lt;br /&gt;
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=== String Art in Dome ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/&lt;br /&gt;
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=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more &amp;quot;structure&amp;quot; like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats &amp;amp; possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: mc.fly / fem&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. &amp;quot;mail to jail&amp;quot; is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of &amp;quot;teh intervewbz&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison. &lt;br /&gt;
 - it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond&lt;br /&gt;
 - adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as &amp;quot;gov&amp;quot; may be upset re codes on postcards).&lt;br /&gt;
All Cats Are Beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
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Support:&lt;br /&gt;
*Panda&lt;br /&gt;
*AnonymousVideo&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html&lt;br /&gt;
*FreeAnons&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.freeanons.org&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year) ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== field day 10 nov 2018 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
people going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GPN last weekend of may ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== field day 08 june 2019 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
people going:&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019&amp;diff=794</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019&amp;diff=794"/>
		<updated>2019-05-20T23:01:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Voucher wish list ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== orga ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Kitchen ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Buildup/Teardown ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Infodesk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== power + network ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
coderobe is looking into this&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Subvillages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== scottish embassy? ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== toorcamp ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== crazy ideas ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Biiiicycles ===&lt;br /&gt;
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== high rotating milliways sign ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: valka, mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Need more signs and a rotating motor. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Metallic Starship ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: Felipe Sanches&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big &amp;quot;Falcon&amp;quot; Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own &amp;quot;tails/wings&amp;quot; just like we&#039;ve seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: FellMoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spotlight 1200W with &amp;quot;A-Gobo&amp;quot; available, but i&#039;d opt for a vectoring lazer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways train ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As its in the brick museum again i&#039;d love to have a train.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spiegelzelt ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea mc.fly &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Price: 12 670 euro&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* con&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich teurer&lt;br /&gt;
* pro&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich geil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;d love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Tents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Shade&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Seating&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Lighting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Sound&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A PA or two &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Truss&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Misc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- What the Hack?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i&#039;d love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you&#039;re worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I&#039;d love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Support&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 #letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== connected-milliways physical structure ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
pro: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lot&#039;s of space for graffiti, workshops etc.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
con: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lots of (physical) work &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
mc.fly:&lt;br /&gt;
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
still lets see if we can get something together there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pro: awesome lulz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This bad taste of a &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; goes against CCC&#039;s principle of &amp;quot;Be excellent to each other&amp;quot;. Highly discouraged.&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways moving objects ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== rail vehicle ====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we&#039;d like to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gauge is 500mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Sinclair C5-S ====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== working kitchen ===&lt;br /&gt;
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways lightboxes ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See turning sign above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===&lt;br /&gt;
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.&lt;br /&gt;
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== String Art in Dome ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more &amp;quot;structure&amp;quot; like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats &amp;amp; possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: mc.fly / fem&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. &amp;quot;mail to jail&amp;quot; is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of &amp;quot;teh intervewbz&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison. &lt;br /&gt;
 - it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond&lt;br /&gt;
 - adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as &amp;quot;gov&amp;quot; may be upset re codes on postcards).&lt;br /&gt;
All Cats Are Beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Support:&lt;br /&gt;
*Panda&lt;br /&gt;
*AnonymousVideo&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html&lt;br /&gt;
*FreeAnons&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.freeanons.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year) ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== field day 10 nov 2018 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
people going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== GPN last weekend of may ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== field day 08 june 2019 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
people going:&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019&amp;diff=793</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019&amp;diff=793"/>
		<updated>2019-05-20T22:47:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: new filed day&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Voucher wish list ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== orga ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Kitchen ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Buildup/Teardown ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Infodesk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== power + network ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
coderobe is looking into this&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Subvillages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== scottish embassy? ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== toorcamp ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== crazy ideas ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Biiiicycles ===&lt;br /&gt;
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== high rotating milliways sign ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: valka, mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Need more signs and a rotating motor. &lt;br /&gt;
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#letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Metallic Starship ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: Felipe Sanches&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big &amp;quot;Falcon&amp;quot; Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own &amp;quot;tails/wings&amp;quot; just like we&#039;ve seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea: FellMoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spotlight 1200W with &amp;quot;A-Gobo&amp;quot; available, but i&#039;d opt for a vectoring lazer.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways train ===&lt;br /&gt;
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As its in the brick museum again i&#039;d love to have a train.&lt;br /&gt;
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Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spiegelzelt ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea mc.fly &lt;br /&gt;
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Price: 12 670 euro&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* con&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich teurer&lt;br /&gt;
* pro&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich geil.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;d love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Tents&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Shade&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Seating&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Lighting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Sound&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A PA or two &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Truss&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Misc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- What the Hack?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i&#039;d love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you&#039;re worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I&#039;d love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Support&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 #letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== connected-milliways physical structure ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
pro: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lot&#039;s of space for graffiti, workshops etc.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
con: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lots of (physical) work &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
mc.fly:&lt;br /&gt;
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
still lets see if we can get something together there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pro: awesome lulz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This bad taste of a &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; goes against CCC&#039;s principle of &amp;quot;Be excellent to each other&amp;quot;. Highly discouraged.&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways moving objects ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== rail vehicle ====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we&#039;d like to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gauge is 500mm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Sinclair C5-S ====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== working kitchen ===&lt;br /&gt;
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways lightboxes ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See turning sign above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===&lt;br /&gt;
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.&lt;br /&gt;
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== String Art in Dome ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more &amp;quot;structure&amp;quot; like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats &amp;amp; possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: mc.fly / fem&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. &amp;quot;mail to jail&amp;quot; is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of &amp;quot;teh intervewbz&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison. &lt;br /&gt;
 - it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond&lt;br /&gt;
 - adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as &amp;quot;gov&amp;quot; may be upset re codes on postcards).&lt;br /&gt;
All Cats Are Beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
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Support:&lt;br /&gt;
*Panda&lt;br /&gt;
*AnonymousVideo&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html&lt;br /&gt;
*FreeAnons&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.freeanons.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year) ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: McFly, nina&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We could use them for the kitchen and/or &amp;quot;sell&amp;quot; them for a little sponsoring money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html&lt;br /&gt;
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== field day 10 nov 2018 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
people going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== field day 08 june 2019 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
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people going:&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019-card10&amp;diff=662</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019-card10</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019-card10&amp;diff=662"/>
		<updated>2019-05-08T11:59:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
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https://gitlab.hamburg.ccc.de/card10&lt;br /&gt;
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https://media.ccc.de/v/eh19-200-cccamp-badge-talk&lt;br /&gt;
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Let&#039;s see what we wanted to do with the badge. It will have Bluetooth 5 integration, which is WIP as we speak. &lt;br /&gt;
So we can decide what to add and in regards to milliways&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019-card10&amp;diff=661</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019-card10</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019-card10&amp;diff=661"/>
		<updated>2019-05-08T11:44:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: Created page with &amp;quot;  https://gitlab.hamburg.ccc.de/card10   Let&amp;#039;s see what we wanted to do with the badge. It will have Bluetooth 5 integration, which is WIP as we speak.  So we can decide what...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://gitlab.hamburg.ccc.de/card10&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let&#039;s see what we wanted to do with the badge. It will have Bluetooth 5 integration, which is WIP as we speak. &lt;br /&gt;
So we can decide what to add and in regards to milliways&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019&amp;diff=660</id>
		<title>CCCamp 2019</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp_2019&amp;diff=660"/>
		<updated>2019-05-08T11:40:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: there will have been a badge at camp...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015&lt;br /&gt;
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== Voucher wish list ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== orga ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kitchen ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Buildup/Teardown ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infodesk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== power + network ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== crazy ideas ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Biiiicycles ===&lt;br /&gt;
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
=== high rotating milliways sign ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: valka, mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Need more signs and a rotating motor. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Metallic Starship ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: Felipe Sanches&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big &amp;quot;Falcon&amp;quot; Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own &amp;quot;tails/wings&amp;quot; just like we&#039;ve seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea: FellMoon&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spotlight 1200W with &amp;quot;A-Gobo&amp;quot; available, but i&#039;d opt for a vectoring lazer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== milliways train ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As its in the brick museum again i&#039;d love to have a train.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spiegelzelt ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Idea mc.fly &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Price: 12 670 euro&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* con&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich teurer&lt;br /&gt;
* pro&lt;br /&gt;
** vermutlich geil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Idea MikeTango&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:&lt;br /&gt;
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- Tents&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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- Shade&lt;br /&gt;
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Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
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can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²&lt;br /&gt;
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A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes&lt;br /&gt;
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- Seating&lt;br /&gt;
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A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs&lt;br /&gt;
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- Lighting&lt;br /&gt;
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Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound&lt;br /&gt;
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Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken&lt;br /&gt;
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- Sound&lt;br /&gt;
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A PA or two &lt;br /&gt;
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- Truss&lt;br /&gt;
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Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high&lt;br /&gt;
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- Misc&lt;br /&gt;
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I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones. &lt;br /&gt;
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- What the Hack?&lt;br /&gt;
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On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i&#039;d love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you&#039;re worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I&#039;d love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys. &lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Support&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
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 #letsdoit&lt;br /&gt;
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=== connected-milliways physical structure ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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pro: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lot&#039;s of space for graffiti, workshops etc.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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con: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* lots of (physical) work &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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mc.fly:&lt;br /&gt;
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...&lt;br /&gt;
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still lets see if we can get something together there.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon &lt;br /&gt;
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like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections&lt;br /&gt;
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Pro: awesome lulz.&lt;br /&gt;
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Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;This bad taste of a &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; goes against CCC&#039;s principle of &amp;quot;Be excellent to each other&amp;quot;. Highly discouraged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways moving objects ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== rail vehicle ====&lt;br /&gt;
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bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we&#039;d like to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
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We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gauge is 500mm&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Sinclair C5-S ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
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awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== working kitchen ===&lt;br /&gt;
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== milliways lightboxes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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See turning sign above.&lt;br /&gt;
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We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===&lt;br /&gt;
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.&lt;br /&gt;
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container&lt;br /&gt;
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=== String Art in Dome ===&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/&lt;br /&gt;
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=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
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Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof&lt;br /&gt;
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alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===&lt;br /&gt;
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
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having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more &amp;quot;structure&amp;quot; like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats &amp;amp; possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.&lt;br /&gt;
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nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ&lt;br /&gt;
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== field day 10 nov 2018 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.&lt;br /&gt;
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people going:&lt;br /&gt;
# mc.fly&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
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	<entry>
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		<title>CCCamp2019-participants</title>
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		<updated>2019-05-03T11:17:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mwfc: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;this is the queue for vouchers for the Chaos Communication Camp 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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# mc.fly&lt;br /&gt;
# cookingroffa&lt;br /&gt;
# ryd&lt;br /&gt;
# pilgrim&lt;br /&gt;
# havilland&lt;br /&gt;
# cnm (bernhard)&lt;br /&gt;
# JImGM0UIN&lt;br /&gt;
# malaclypse&lt;br /&gt;
# Nina&lt;br /&gt;
# Skrizi&lt;br /&gt;
# Leyrer&lt;br /&gt;
# shroombab&lt;br /&gt;
# carton&lt;br /&gt;
# Cobolt&lt;br /&gt;
# Cobolt +1&lt;br /&gt;
# firel0x&lt;br /&gt;
# firel0x +1&lt;br /&gt;
# haegar&lt;br /&gt;
# SleepyEntropy&lt;br /&gt;
# AwkwardGoodbyes&lt;br /&gt;
# awtnmy &lt;br /&gt;
# awtnmy +1&lt;br /&gt;
# Cvthof&lt;br /&gt;
# fellmoon&lt;br /&gt;
# snoopy&lt;br /&gt;
# Shadow&lt;br /&gt;
# Shadow + 1&lt;br /&gt;
# Shadow + 2&lt;br /&gt;
# valka&lt;br /&gt;
# Allie`&lt;br /&gt;
# kgz&lt;br /&gt;
# Ep!c&lt;br /&gt;
# Ep!c +1&lt;br /&gt;
# Cobolt&lt;br /&gt;
# shadghost&lt;br /&gt;
# Shadow&lt;br /&gt;
# Shadow + 1&lt;br /&gt;
# Shadow + 2&lt;br /&gt;
# JimGM0UIN&lt;br /&gt;
# JimGM0UIN + 1&lt;br /&gt;
# jarmour&lt;br /&gt;
# jarmour + 1&lt;br /&gt;
# h (Haaroon)&lt;br /&gt;
# h (Haaroon) + 1&lt;br /&gt;
# grufwub&lt;br /&gt;
# grufwub +1&lt;br /&gt;
# fialo4ka&lt;br /&gt;
# fialo4ka +1&lt;br /&gt;
# tuxcoder&lt;br /&gt;
# souterrain&lt;br /&gt;
# Matt T&lt;br /&gt;
# s3krit&lt;br /&gt;
# boreq&lt;br /&gt;
# Duncan &amp;lt;3&lt;br /&gt;
# Nyx&lt;br /&gt;
# Nyx +1&lt;br /&gt;
# irl&lt;br /&gt;
# ana&lt;br /&gt;
# oTTr&lt;br /&gt;
# Japanese guys&lt;br /&gt;
# Japanese guys 2&lt;br /&gt;
# Japanese guys 3&lt;br /&gt;
# gingercat&lt;br /&gt;
# dionyziz&lt;br /&gt;
# themicp&lt;br /&gt;
# willscott&lt;br /&gt;
# FSanches&lt;br /&gt;
# Cheshirecat&lt;br /&gt;
# zoe (Cheshirecat +1)&lt;br /&gt;
# oTTr +1&lt;br /&gt;
# oTTr +2&lt;br /&gt;
# Foxboron (sigsegv)&lt;br /&gt;
# Andy (sigsegv)&lt;br /&gt;
# neuratix (sigsegv)&lt;br /&gt;
# OvsNL +kid&lt;br /&gt;
# froztbyte&lt;br /&gt;
# macker&lt;br /&gt;
# aestetix&lt;br /&gt;
# Scythe&lt;br /&gt;
# pitanga&lt;br /&gt;
# Lorenz&lt;br /&gt;
# Timo (bingo, via Lorenz)&lt;br /&gt;
# Leon (via Lorenz)&lt;br /&gt;
# Tobias (via Lorenz)&lt;br /&gt;
# Leilah (via Lorenz)&lt;br /&gt;
# Niklas (via Lorenz)&lt;br /&gt;
# Nyx + 2 (crystal)&lt;br /&gt;
# hibby&lt;br /&gt;
# Antz&lt;br /&gt;
# kingu +1 (feel free to give me your spot in the queue)&lt;br /&gt;
# cnm&lt;br /&gt;
# assel&lt;br /&gt;
# techno&lt;br /&gt;
# cnomad&lt;br /&gt;
# cnomad +1&lt;br /&gt;
# cnomad +2&lt;br /&gt;
# pronto&lt;br /&gt;
# skyhighatrist&lt;br /&gt;
# skyhighatrist +1&lt;br /&gt;
# ens&lt;br /&gt;
# ens +1&lt;br /&gt;
# ksj (freeside)&lt;br /&gt;
# greyman (freeside)&lt;br /&gt;
# kupo&lt;br /&gt;
# mwfc&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Mwfc</name></author>
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