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36c3

2019-10-22T12:45:40Z

Fem: /* writing postcards to jail */

wiki page for 36c3.

[[36c3-voucher-queue]]

== crazy ideas ==

=== whiskyleaks ===

a given. day 2 is proposed.

=== writing postcards to jail ===

we want to give people the chance to write to some hackers leakers and like-minded people postcards and letters. We also try to set up something we can send them books and alike.

Need:

* table
* PR (fem)
* postcards (fem design ideas)
* pens

36c3-voucher-queue

2019-10-22T12:40:48Z

Fem: /* Participants: */

This will become the participants list for 36c3 / voucher list.

You need to make sure mc.fly knows how to reach you and his memory is bad.

= Has voucher: =
# valka (paid)
# s3krit (paid)
# coderobe (paid)
# oTTr (irc) (payed)
# kraln (angel voucher)
# kraln + 1 (angel voucher)
# Antz (angel voucher)
# pidgey (@pidgeyl)
# Nina
# Malaclypse
# cybers
# cybers +1
# path (pathfinder/braenaru on IRC)
# kgz (irc)
# willscott (paid)
# Matt T
# Tuxcoder (paid)
# fialo4ka (contact: Tuxcoder) (paid)
# carton
# emerson
# emerson +1 Mel
# azk (paid)
# boreq (you can contact me using technology called Internet Relay Chat)
# n0p (Lbernal - gmail)

= Participants: =
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# kgz + 1 (not confirmed yet) (irc)
# coderobe + 1 (irc)
# coderobe + 1 (irc)
# coderobe + 1 (irc)
# marcin / whatsinaname (also preferably email: whatsinaname (at) milliways.info; i'm usually on irc as well)
# coderobe +1 (irc)
# Shadow (LeShadow on IRC)
# Shadow +1 (LeShadow on IRC)
# Shadow +1 (LeShadow on IRC)
# Shadow +1 (LeShadow on IRC)
# Shadow +1 (LeShadow on IRC)
# skrizi (preferably mail: <nick>@milliways.info, IRC)
# havilland
# havilland +1
# Foxboron (irc) (sigsegv)
# Andy` (irc) (sigsegv)
# Panda (irc) (sigsegv)
# Alad (irc) (sigsegv)
# neuratix (irc) (sigsegv)
# toresbe (irc) (sigsegv)
# sjurtf (irc) (sigsegv)
# Gozno (irc) (sigsegv)
# d0cky (irc) (sigsegv)
# Oryx (irc) (sigsegv)
# raWrz (irc) (sigsegv)
# legz (irc) (sigsegv)
# lorenz (irc)
# bingo (irc, via lorenz?)
# leonh (irc, via lorenz?)
# Niklas (via lorenz)
# Tobias (via lorenz)
# Live (irc, via sjurtf)
# jA_cOp (irc, via sjurtf)
# Flori (via lorenz)
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# awkwardgoodbyes
# awkwardgoodbyes +1
# tjg (might get one from c3wien, irc)
# tjg +1 (might get one from c3wien, irc)
# tjg +1 (might get one from c3wien, irc)
# JimGM0UIN
# Kakekongen (irc) (sigsegv)
# PewZ (irc) (sigsegv)
# Marit (irc, via PewZ or Foxboron) (sigsegv)
# aestetix
# aestetix +1
# aestetix +2
# awgh
# path +1 (mrhands on IRC)
# lysobit
# valka +1 (jen2) irc
# valka +2 irc
# sysrekt plz talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# sysrekt +1 plz talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# x47df (makoto/^^makoto_ on IRC)
# x47df +1 (makoto/^^makoto_ on IRC)
# pidgey +1 Digihash
# gramels
# gramels +1
# andreasH (contact: tuxcoder)
# andreasH +1 (contact: tuxcoder)
# andreasH +2 (contact: tuxcoder)
# SuperQ
# eliete_tree (contact: tuxcoder)
# ruse +2 (mc.fly know how to reach me)
# pidgey +1 Domien
# pidgey +1 jadot
# muelli
# Haaroon
# Haaroon +1
# alh + 1
# valka +3 (irc)
# ryd
# willscott +1
# willscott +2
# willscott +3
# fem mail | signal

CCCamp2019-participants

2019-05-26T03:46:25Z

Fem: /* wants a ticket */

this is the queue for vouchers for the Chaos Communication Camp 2019

== the ticket situation for camp 2019 ==

https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2019/camp-zelte
"Eintrittskarten für das Camp gibt es ausschließlich mit Vouchern, die im nächstgelegenen Hackerspace bereitgehalten werden. Chaosnahe Gruppen und Spaces, die Voucher verteilen wollen und bisher nicht berücksichtigt wurden, sollten sich direkt und schnell bei camp2019-tickets(at)cccv.de melden."

There will not be a public sale, everything will go over (respwaning) vouchers.
This means we need to plan properly, everyone who wants to come should be on the voucher list till the GPN
which is May 30th-June 2nd.

This means there will be a massive shortage of tickets and we won't
get the amount of tickets that we usually are able to retrieve through
the old voucher system. This voucher system will be only used on the
camp as far as I know and that is due to the shortage of tickets which
will be at the same number as last time in 2015.
The numbers of the visitors on the congress have roughly doubled since
then.

So to speak out the ugly truth we will have to prioritize some people
over others - that just is the consequence out of the situation.

I will therefore prioritize people who commit to do something for
milliways on the camp and then people who have done something for
milliways in the past and then try to come up with something fair for
the rest of the vouchers. I do not feel well by this and are open to
other suggestions in how to proceed there but its the best solution we
have come up with so far.

== list ==
=== payment confirmed ===
# firel0x
# firel0x +1
# malaclypse
# Nina
# SleepyEntropy
# AwkwardGoodbyes
# kgz
# s3krit (freeside)
# valka
# carton
# pidgey
# carton +1
# coderobe (sigsegv)
# haegar
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# Leyrer
# shroombab
# oTTr
# Skrizi
# Shadow
# Shadow + 1
# Matt T
# willscott
# Foxboron (sigsegv)
# daravinne
# daravinne+1
# setient
# KutmasteR toorcamp
# zero9zero toorcamp
# ryd
# fellmoon
# snoopy
# fialo4ka (tuxcoder)
# tuxcoder
# anonpanda
# neuratix (sigsegv)
# Nyx (freeside)
# Nyx +1
# hds
# macker
# kraln
# kraln + 1
# jackradical
# advancingdragon
# fialo4ka +1 (tuxcoder)

=== has a voucher ===
# boreq (freeside)
# kingu
# Timo (bingo, via Lorenz)
# Leon (via Lorenz)

=== wants a ticket ===
# havilland - skip
# cnm (bernhard) - does not answer
# Cobolt
# Cobolt +1
# Shadow + 2 - skip
# Ep!c - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Ep!c +1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# jarmour - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# jarmour + 1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# h (Haaroon) - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# h (Haaroon) + 1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# grufwub - no answer
# grufwub +1 - no answer
# souterrain - no answer
# Japanese guys - skip, MT, no answer
# Japanese guys 2 - skip, MT, no answer
# Japanese guys 3 - skip, MT, no answer
# gingercat - skip
# dionyziz - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# themicp - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# FSanches - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Cheshirecat
# zoe (Cheshirecat +1)
# oTTr +1
# oTTr +2
# Andy (sigsegv)
# OvsNL +kid - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# froztbyte
# aestetix
# Scythe
# pitanga - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Lorenz
# Tobias (via Lorenz)
# Leilah (via Lorenz)
# Niklas (via Lorenz)
# Nyx + 2 (crystal)
# Antz (freeside)
# kingu +1 (feel free to give me your spot in the queue) IBAN
# assel
# techno
# cnomad - skip
# cnomad +1 - skip
# cnomad +2 - skip
# pronto
# skyhighatrist
# skyhighatrist +1
# ens
# ens +1
# ksj (freeside)
# greyman (freeside)
# kupo
# mwfc
# krazykral
# hackfoo
# hackfoo+1
# rip
# lysobit
# kraln + 2
# willscott +1
# Gopher - via aestetix
# shibumi
# shibumi +1
# ZaphodB
# gingercat +1
# katy
# suqdiq
# kekhmet
# augeas
# 0x80 (reserve)
# 0x80 +1 (reserve)
# mindm
# olibaier
# KutmasteR +1
# hephaestus
# auerfeld + 1
# Scythe +1
# almaric +1
# SuperQ
# SuperQ +1
# SuperQ +2 (cook)
# vito
# phils
# phils +2
# fellu
# gatekeeper
# gatekeeper +1
# gramels
# gramels +1
# gramels +2
# oTTr +3
# @juliocesarfort (rfdslabs)
# andersonc0d3 (rfdslabs)
# andersonc0d3 +1 (rfdslabs)
# @rfdslabs (rfdslabs)
# Sky_G (rfdslabs)
# ásta (@asta_fish)
# ásta (@asta_fish) +1
# ásta (@asta_fish) +2
# sandsmark (sigsegv)
# Panda (sigsegv)+1
# Panda (sigsegv)+2
# oTTr +4
# dhiru - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# oklien (sigsegv)
# QuantumCypher
# QuantumCypher +1
# azafran
# Emerson
# fem + friend (maybe)

CCCamp 2019

2019-05-09T21:20:21Z

Fem: /* Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== Buildup/Teardown ==

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

== Infodesk ==

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

== power + network ==

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== scottish embassy? ===

=== toorcamp ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
*Panda
*AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
*FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

CCCamp 2019

2019-05-09T21:17:15Z

Fem: /* Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== Buildup/Teardown ==

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

== Infodesk ==

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

== power + network ==

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== scottish embassy? ===

=== toorcamp ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
1.Panda
2.AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
3.FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

CCCamp 2019

2019-05-09T21:16:37Z

Fem: /* Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== Buildup/Teardown ==

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

== Infodesk ==

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

== power + network ==

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== scottish embassy? ===

=== toorcamp ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
1.Panda
2.AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
3.FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

CCCamp 2019

2019-05-09T21:14:31Z

Fem: /* Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== Buildup/Teardown ==

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

== Infodesk ==

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

== power + network ==

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== scottish embassy? ===

=== toorcamp ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as gov may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
Panda
AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

CCCamp 2019

2019-05-09T21:09:18Z

Fem: /* crazy ideas */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== Buildup/Teardown ==

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

== Infodesk ==

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

== power + network ==

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== scottish embassy? ===

=== toorcamp ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as gov may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly