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40c3-voucher-queue

2025-12-31T12:49:44Z

Fellmoon: /* Wants a ticket */

==The voucher queue of [[40c3]]==

[[Category:40c3]]

'''One person per line!'''
Example; If you need 2 tickets for you and your +1, your +1 '''has''' to be on a new line.
This is so that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Furthermore please make sure that you have a way to contact you. We '''strongly prefer''' being in matrix / irc room with the same nick you sign up here with.

Please note, this happens fast, you'll need to be able to '''respond fast e.g. within 15 minutes'''. There will be a few rounds but you won't have endless chances.

=== Has a ticket ===

Noone has a ticket yet.

Will be tracked at [[40c3-participant-list]]

=== Wants a ticket ===

# mc.fly
# hc
# 6eau
# 6eau +1
# flex
# ryd
# aoei
# kraln
# kraln + 1
# kraln + 2
# kraln + 3
# pandora
# pandora + 1
# prr_l
# sannoso
# fellmoon
# philo

39c3-voucher-queue

2025-11-09T16:58:33Z

Fellmoon: /* Wants a ticket */

==The voucher queue of [[39c3]]==

''' Voucher time is over '''

Everything below here is now obsolete.

'''One person per line!'''
Example; If you need 2 tickets for you and your +1, your +1 '''has''' to be on a new line.
This is so that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Furthermore please make sure that you have a way to contact you. We '''strongly prefer''' being in matrix / irc room with the same nick you sign up here with.

Please note, this happens fast, you'll need to be able to '''respond fast e.g. within 15 minutes'''. There will be a few rounds but you won't have endless chances.

=== Has a ticket ===

tracked at [[39c3-participant-list]]

=== Wants maybe a ticket ===
This is the side list. If you are on this list please communicate to mc.fly. He's unsure if you still need a ticket or how to reach you.

If you are on this list you have been passed there which means you're now on the top of the list.

If you don't need tickets anymore please remove yourself. :-)

# edk
# genevieve
# sven (Lorphos)
# kezi
# Fig
# cityroler +4

=== please react ===
This is a "you need to talk to mc.fly list". If you're on here please talk to mc.fly

# sleepyentropy +2

=== Wants a ticket ===

# nina +1 (mona)
# willscott+3
# willscott+4
# willscott+5
# willscott+6
# julian +1
# julian +2
# julian +3
# may-lee
# may-lee +1
# may-lee +2
# fellmoon +7
# fellmoon + 8

== used pastes ==

=== check if around and can buy now ===

Ohai. Its voucher time. Do you have a credit card and able to buy right now with it?
Remember:
With credit card.
Right now as in the next 20 mins?

Both is important as speed is important in this voucher queue. If you would sit on the voucher for too long and not buy or pay immedeately we will get the next voucher later and that will have impact for others.

=== check if return email is understood ===

Hello user

Its your time with a voucher - and please read this email carefully to an end. also
We're all excited and nerds, take your time as we can't fuck this up. So - please be thorrow and careful and act precise.
Speed is super important though in this whole ticket process so please be fast so everyone of us can get a ticket.
That means whenever possible buy with a credit card as this moves your status directly to paid which is critical for a new voucher.

so - When you buy a ticket one field in the checkout process that's "Send replicated voucher to / Sende den Folge-Gutschein an" and that will get the voucher return back to me. This send replicated voucher field has to be filled with milliways-voucher-143@elmarlecher.de.
This is rather important. Please ONLY put this value in there. If you have someone else that also needs a ticket plesase add them to the wiki.

There is also the field of "Email". This should contain your email. Please put your email in there.

So - what is your "Send replicated voucher to" entry?

=== re-explaining ===

in the buying process you're asked to fill in some fields. There's basically the common fields - email, credit card data but also a field called "Send replicating voucher to / Sende den Folge-Gutschein an" field. This is super critical. Hence me double checking if you understood it.
(the answer is in the paste above)

=== voucher handover ===

The ticket can be bought at https://tickets.events.ccc.de/39c3/

Your voucher(s) is / are

please confirm to me where we communicated when you have bought your ticket and update the entry at https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=39c3-participant-list

=== final thank you ===

thanks for confirming. please don't forget to update your entry at
https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=39c3-participant-list.
If you can't edit the wiki let me know, i'll do it for you

== stored information ==

i use a pad to copy & paste all of the information.

At the 39c3 we got 199 vouchers through and there were 7 rounds.

We had 10+ angel vouchers

39c3-participant-list

2025-10-31T23:15:42Z

Fellmoon: /* 39c3 participant list */

= 39c3 participant list =

== has voucher ==
# cityroler +3 (@cityrolr:matrix.org)
# ludo
# ludo +1
# JTL

== has bought tickets, status pending ==
# plasma

== ticket in status paid ==
# katia +1
# eri
# Tatiana
# kgz
# kgz +1
# wasamasa
# katia
# haegar
# zornem
# ax
# calisti
# calisti +1
# willscott
# willscott +1
# carton
# stemnic
# cqc
# cqc +1
# zoda - THN
# Aja - THN
# greymn
# Matty - THN
# Anh - THN
# Kevin - THN
# Jet - THN
# cqc +2
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# mc.fly (angel voucher)
# no_maam (angel voucher)
# obsidian
# oakkitten
# stephan48 (angel voucher)
# murb (angel voucher)
# tr4ck3ur
# tr4ck3ur +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# vivian
# stoffel
# josiedotlol
# pitastrudl
# pitastrudl +1
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# maltman23
# dan - THN
# Kibo - THN
# galen - THN
# Lyrilith⁩
# 004
# sven
# korkenzieher
# Mau
# junglerot
# chewymoose (Amy)
# sannoso
# jaja (angel voucher)
# hanemile (angel voucher)
# stoffel
# stoffel +1
# tuxcoder
# tuxcoder +1
# jim
# nina
# nina +1
# andreash
# andreash +1
# gracc
# tido
# tido +1
# hhat
# hhat +1
# carton +1
# valldrac
# valldrac +1
# Chris - THN
# James C - THN
# I-baLL
# I-baLL +1
# Avi - THN
# tprg
# Vee - THN
# Seamus - THN
# flex
# ryd
# scythe
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# blende666 +2
# DerLaslo
# carrot_c4k3
# newbe3e
# whatsinaname/marcin
# blende666 +3
# blende666 +4
# Four0Four - THN
# Four0Four - THN
# colla
# vivian +1
# prrl
# emerson
# tprg + 1
# tprg + 2
# tprg +3
# Jacqui - THN
# Flauschi
# theWeaver
# theWeaver +1
# oTTr
# oTTr +1
# fellmoon
# fellmoon + 1
# skrizi
# q66
# cityroler
# cityroler +1
# andreash +2
# fellmoon + 2 (dabla)
# fellmoon + 3 (yooda)
# fellmoon + 4
# cityroler +2
# nina +1 (Andreas P)
# willscott +2
# willscott +3
# calisti +2
# calisti +3
# calisti +4
# 004 +1
# 004 +2
# Eri + 1
# zer0
# andreash +2
# ⁨𓁿⁩ - THN
# Pandora
# Pandora +1
# pandora + 2
# pandora + 3
# Aris / Arisvaleborn
# Wordloc
# Elamaxima
# TheQuux
# Elan - THN
# katia +2
# cityroler +3
# calisti +5
# nightowlphoenix
# willscott +1 (cabal)
# willscott +2 (cabal)
# willscott +3 (cabal)
# willscott +4 (cabal)
# blende666
# blende666 +1 (Janine)
# blende666 +2 (Laura)
# calisti +6
# JimmyDW
# JimmyDW +1
# calisti +7
# fellmoon + 5
# fellmoon + 6

39c3-participant-list

2025-10-29T22:20:35Z

Fellmoon: /* ticket in status paid */

= 39c3 participant list =

== has voucher ==
# 004 +1
# 004 +2
# Eri + 1
# calisti +2
# calisti +3
# calisti +4

== has bought tickets, status pending ==

== ticket in status paid ==
# katia +1
# eri
# Tatiana
# kgz
# kgz +1
# wasamasa
# katia
# haegar
# zornem
# ax
# calisti
# calisti +1
# willscott
# willscott +1
# carton
# stemnic
# cqc
# cqc +1
# zoda - THN
# Aja - THN
# greymn
# Matty - THN
# Anh - THN
# Kevin - THN
# Jet - THN
# cqc +2
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# mc.fly (angel voucher)
# no_maam (angel voucher)
# obsidian
# oakkitten
# stephan48 (angel voucher)
# murb (angel voucher)
# tr4ck3ur
# tr4ck3ur +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# vivian
# stoffel
# josiedotlol
# pitastrudl
# pitastrudl +1
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# maltman23
# dan - THN
# Kibo - THN
# galen - THN
# Lyrilith⁩
# 004
# sven
# korkenzieher
# Mau
# junglerot
# chewymoose (Amy)
# sannoso
# jaja (angel voucher)
# hanemile (angel voucher)
# stoffel
# stoffel +1
# tuxcoder
# tuxcoder +1
# jim
# nina
# nina +1
# andreash
# andreash +1
# gracc
# tido
# tido +1
# hhat
# hhat +1
# carton +1
# valldrac
# valldrac +1
# thn (Chris) +14
# thn (James C) +9
# I-baLL
# I-baLL +1
# thn (Avi) +6
# tprg
# thn (Vee) +10
# thn (Seamus) +12
# flex
# ryd
# scythe
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# blende666 +2
# DerLaslo
# carrot_c4k3
# newbe3e
# whatsinaname/marcin
# blende666 +3
# blende666 +4
# Four0Four - THN
# Four0Four - THN +1
# colla
# vivian +1
# prrl
# emerson
# tprg + 1
# tprg + 2
# tprg +3
# Jacqui - THN +8
# Flauschi
# theWeaver
# theWeaver +1
# oTTr
# oTTr +1
# fellmoon
# fellmoon + 1
# skrizi
# q66
# cityroler
# cityroler +1
# andreash +2
# fellmoon + 2 (dabla)
# fellmoon + 3 (yooda)
# fellmoon + 4

39c3-participant-list

2025-10-29T22:20:19Z

Fellmoon: /* has voucher */

39c3-participant-list

2025-10-29T21:22:18Z

Fellmoon:

= 39c3 participant list =

== has voucher ==

== has bought tickets, status pending ==

== ticket in status paid ==
# katia +1
# eri
# Tatiana
# kgz
# kgz +1
# wasamasa
# katia
# haegar
# zornem
# ax
# calisti
# calisti +1
# willscott
# willscott +1
# carton
# stemnic
# cqc
# cqc +1
# zoda - THN
# Aja - THN
# greymn
# Matty - THN
# Anh - THN
# Kevin - THN
# Jet - THN
# cqc +2
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# mc.fly (angel voucher)
# no_maam (angel voucher)
# obsidian
# oakkitten
# stephan48 (angel voucher)
# murb (angel voucher)
# tr4ck3ur
# tr4ck3ur +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# vivian
# stoffel
# josiedotlol
# pitastrudl
# pitastrudl +1
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# maltman23
# dan - THN
# Kibo - THN
# galen - THN
# Lyrilith⁩
# 004
# sven
# korkenzieher
# Mau
# junglerot
# chewymoose (Amy)
# sannoso
# jaja (angel voucher)
# hanemile (angel voucher)
# stoffel
# stoffel +1
# tuxcoder
# tuxcoder +1
# jim
# nina
# nina +1
# andreash
# andreash +1
# gracc
# tido
# tido +1
# hhat
# hhat +1
# carton +1
# valldrac
# valldrac +1
# thn (Chris) +14
# thn (James C) +9
# I-baLL
# I-baLL +1
# thn (Avi) +6
# tprg
# thn (Vee) +10
# thn (Seamus) +12
# flex
# ryd
# scythe
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# blende666 +2
# DerLaslo
# carrot_c4k3
# newbe3e
# whatsinaname/marcin
# blende666 +3
# blende666 +4
# Four0Four - THN
# Four0Four - THN +1
# colla
# vivian +1
# prrl
# emerson
# tprg + 1
# tprg + 2
# tprg +3
# Jacqui - THN +8
# Flauschi
# theWeaver
# theWeaver +1
# oTTr
# oTTr +1
# fellmoon
# fellmoon + 1

39c3-voucher-queue

2025-10-27T23:30:43Z

Fellmoon:

==The voucher queue of [[39c3]]==

'''One person per line!'''
Example; If you need 2 tickets for you and your +1, your +1 '''has''' to be on a new line.
This is so that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Furthermore please make sure that you have a way to contact you. We '''strongly prefer''' being in matrix / irc room with the same nick you sign up here with.

Please note, this happens fast, you'll need to be able to '''respond fast e.g. within 15 minutes'''. There will be a few rounds but you won't have endless chances.

=== Has a ticket ===

tracked at [[39c3-participant-list]]

=== Wants maybe a ticket ===
This is the side list. If you are on this list please communicate to mc.fly. He's unsure if you still need a ticket or how to reach you.
# edk
# genevieve
# sven (Lorphos)
# nandequandale

=== please react ===
This is a "you need to talk to mc.fly list". If you're on here please talk to mc.fly
# ArisValeBorn
# skrizi
# pandora

=== Wants a ticket ===
# ArisValeBorn
# kezi
# Fig
# morganamilo
# morganamilo +1
# ArisValeBorn +1 (Wordloc)
# ArisValeBorn +2 (TheQuux)
# ArisValeBorn +3 (Elamaxima)
# skrizi
# nina +1 (Andreas P)
# nina +1 (mona)
# pandora
# pandora + 1
# pandora + 2
# pandora + 3
# Jitkq
# Jitkq +1
# willscott +2
# willscott +3
# Eri + 1
# thn (Elan) +1
# thn (Brinly) +3
# thn (cat van) +4
# thn (Fatemeh) +13
# thn (Valara) +18
# fellmoon + 2 (dabla)
# fellmoon + 3 (yooda)
# fellmoon + 4
# q66
# nina (Christoph -Joe) +1
# nina (Iris -Joe) +1
# manu
# gramels
# gramels +1
# gramels +2
# gramels +3
# cityroler (@cityrolr:matrix.org)
# cityroler +1 (@cityrolr:matrix.org)
# cityroler +2 (@cityrolr:matrix.org)
# cityroler +3 (@cityrolr:matrix.org)
# cityroler +4 (@cityrolr:matrix.org)
# calisti + 2
# calisti + 3
# calisti + 4
# andreash +2
# andreash +3
# plasma
# katia +2
# katia +3
# nightowlphoenix
# calisti +5
# willscott +1 (cabal)
# willscott +2 (cabal)
# 004 +1
# 004 +2
# ludo (@lpoujol:aime.lesmatric.es)
# pixeldesu
# Nyx
# zer0
# sleepyentropy +2
# calisti +6
# tprg + 4
# fellmoon + 5
# fellmoon + 6

39c3-voucher-queue

2025-10-20T11:32:34Z

Fellmoon: /* Wants a ticket */

==The voucher queue of [[39c3]]==

'''One person per line!'''
Example; If you need 2 tickets for you and your +1, your +1 '''has''' to be on a new line.
This is so that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Furthermore please make sure that you have a way to contact you. We '''strongly prefer''' being in matrix / irc room with the same nick you sign up here with.

Please note, this happens fast, you'll need to be able to '''respond fast e.g. within 15 minutes'''. There will be a few rounds but you won't have endless chances.

=== Wants a ticket ===

# mc.fly
# stemnic
# junglerot
# chewymoose (Amy)
# hanemile (Currently in UTC+7, available ~04:00-20:00 Berlin Time)
# kgz
# kgz +1
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# wasamasa
# obsidian
# oakkitten
# Nyx
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# katia
# willscott
# willscott +1
# cqc
# cqc +1
# ax
# josiedotlol
# maltman23
# hhat
# hhat +1
# zornem
# haegar
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# calisti
# calisti +1
# sannoso
# nina
# nina +1
# genevieve
# murb (has Engel voucher)
# vivian (contact at: @v:meowy.tech)
# greymn
# stoffel
# edk
# carton / contact: @hohgkevaikooquo:matrix.org
# carton +1
# pitastrudl
# pitastrudl +1
# tr4ck3ur
# tr4ck3ur +1
# tr4ck3ur +2
# tprg
# tprg + 1
# Korkenzieher
# ArisValeBorn
# sven
# nandequandale
# whatsinaname/marcin
# whatsinaname/marcin + 1
# valldrac
# valldrac +1
# Eri
# coderobe
# tprg + 2
# stephan48 (irc)
# Tido
# Tido +1
# tatiana
# rivercat
# rivercat +1
# inox
# gracc
# andreas (tuxcoder)
# andreas +1
# JimGM0UIN
# colla
# ryd
# kezi
# katia +1
# stoffel +1
# prrl
# I-baLL
# I-baLL +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# blende666 +2
# DerLaslo
# Fig
# ArisValeBorn +1 (Wordloc)
# ArisValeBorn +2 (TheQuux)
# ArisValeBorn +3 (Elamaxima)
# flex
# skrizi
# nina +1 (Andreas P)
# nina +1 (mona)
# nina +1 (Felix)
# carrot_c4k3
# newbe3e
# morganamilo
# morganamilo +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# pandora
# pandora + 1
# pandora + 2
# pandora + 3
# Jitkq
# Jitkq +1
# marcin + 2
# willscott +2
# willscott +3
# cqc +2
# acute
# acute +1
# acute +2
# Eri + 1
# Kibo
# thn (Aja) +1
# thn (Avi) +2
# thn (Brinly) +3
# thn (cat van) +4
# thn (Dan) +5
# thn (Devon) +6
# thn (Four0Four) +7
# thn (Jacqui) +8
# thn (James C) +9
# thn (Vee) +10
# thn (Zoda) +11
# thn (Seamus) +12
# thn (Fatemeh) +13
# thn (Chris) +14
# thn (Jet) +15
# thn (Matty) +16
# thn (Anh) +17
# thn (Valara) +18
# thn (Elan) +19
# thn (Kevin) +20
# fellmoon
# fellmoon + 1 (philo)
# fellmoon + 2 (dabla)
# fellmoon + 3 (yooda)
# fellmoon + 4
# moeglichewelten + 1 (geregeltkrieger)
# 4ndr3
# q66
# hds
# nina (Dominik - Joe +1
# nina (Christoph -Joe) +1
# nina (blacky -Joe) +1
# vivian (@v:meowy.tech) +1
# manu
# oTTr
# oTTr + 1
# flauschi
# gramels
# gramels +1
# gramels +2
# gramels +3

39c3-voucher-queue

2025-10-14T22:25:14Z

Fellmoon: /* Wants a ticket */

==The voucher queue of [[39c3]]==

'''One person per line!'''
Example; If you need 2 tickets for you and your +1, your +1 '''has''' to be on a new line.
This is so that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Furthermore please make sure that you have a way to contact you. We '''strongly prefer''' being in matrix / irc room with the same nick you sign up here with.

Please note, this happens fast, you'll need to be able to '''respond fast e.g. within 15 minutes'''. There will be a few rounds but you won't have endless chances.

=== Wants a ticket ===

# mc.fly
# stemnic
# junglerot
# chewymoose (Amy)
# hanemile
# kgz
# kgz +1
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# wasamasa
# obsidian
# oakkitten
# Nyx
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# katia
# willscott
# willscott +1
# cqc
# cqc +1
# ax
# josiedotlol
# maltman23
# hhat
# hhat +1
# zornem
# haegar
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# calisti
# calisti +1
# sannoso
# nina
# nina +1
# genevieve
# murb
# vivian (contact at: @v:meowy.tech)
# greymn
# stoffel
# edk
# carton / contact: @hohgkevaikooquo:matrix.org
# carton +1
# pitastrudl
# pitastrudl +1
# tr4ck3ur
# tr4ck3ur +1
# tr4ck3ur +2
# tprg
# tprg + 1
# Korkenzieher
# ArisValeBorn
# sven
# nandequandale
# whatsinaname/marcin
# whatsinaname/marcin + 1
# valldrac
# valldrac +1
# Eri
# coderobe
# tprg + 2
# stephan48 (irc)
# Tido
# Tido +1
# tatiana
# rivercat
# rivercat +1
# inox
# gracc
# andreas (tuxcoder)
# andreas +1
# JimGM0UIN
# colla
# ryd
# kezi
# katia +1
# stoffel +1
# prrl
# I-baLL
# I-baLL +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# blende666 +2
# DerLaslo
# Fig
# ArisValeBorn +1 (Wordloc)
# ArisValeBorn +2 (TheQuux)
# ArisValeBorn +3 (Elamaxima)
# flex
# skrizi
# nina +1 (Andreas P)
# nina +1 (mona)
# nina +1 (Felix)
# carrot_c4k3
# newbe3e
# morganamilo
# morganamilo +1
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# pandora
# pandora + 1
# pandora + 2
# pandora + 3
# Jitkq
# Jitkq +1
# marcin + 2
# willscott +2
# willscott +3
# cqc +2
# acute
# acute +1
# acute +2
# Eri + 1
# Kibo
# NB&F (Aja) +1
# NB&F (Avi) +2
# NB&F (Brinly) +3
# NB&F (cat van) +4
# NB&F (Dan) +5
# NB&F (Devon) +6
# NB&F (Four0Four) +7
# NB&F (Jacqui) +8
# NB&F (James C) +9
# NB&F (Vee) +10
# NB&F (Zoda) +11
# NB&F (Seamus) +12
# NB&F (Fatemeh) +13
# NB&F (Chris) +14
# NB&F (Jet) +15
# NB&F (Matty) +16
# NB&F (Anh) +17
# NB&F (Valara) +18
# NB&F (Elan) +19
# NB&F (Kevin) +20
# fellmoon
# fellmoon + 1 (philo)
# fellmoon + 2
# fellmoon + 3
# fellmoon + 4

38c3-voucher-queue

2024-11-04T12:03:46Z

Fellmoon: /* active queue */

38c3 voucher queue

One person per line! If you need 2 tickets you need 2 lines.
This is that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Also please make sure that the people handling this vouchers later have a way to contact you. Being in the matrix / irc room with the same nick (and actually reading that) should do it.

=== please contact me ASAP as i can't reach you ===

If you are here in the list i cannot reach you.

Please fix that, for example by joining the irc/matrix channel and actually checking that client.

In general: please be around on days where vouchers are issued around 22:00

# namero
# [[User:6eau|Ⅹ]]

# javivi
# javivi +1

=== needs voucher ===

Add yourself here (well, at active queue) if you want a voucher.

==== on pause ====
# Mirko Adam
# Mirko Adam +1
# coderobe +1
# nyx
# nyx + 1

==== active queue ====
# plasma
# J/C
# [ALLES!] sinitax `sinitax`
# [ALLES!] sinitax +1
# [ALLES!] Kolja `6b6f6c6a61`
# [ALLES!] eibwen +1
# suqdiq +1
# suqdiq +2
# suqdiq +3
# suqdiq +4
# fellmoon +3 -optional

futher ALLES! people if some voucher is still over

# [ALLES!] 0x4d5a
# [ALLES!] 0x4d5a +1
# [ALLES!] loknop
# [ALLES!] layton
# [ALLES!] Thomas +1

=== has voucher ===

I will move you here from "needs voucher" in the process. If you have the confirmation that the money has arrived please move yourself to the next section - has ticket.

=== has ticket ===

Please add yourself here if you have your payment confirmation or if you travel with milliways and got a ticket from somewhere else than this list (for example emfcamp, the scottish or any other source)

<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible" style="width:400px; overflow:auto;">
<div style="font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">Click to toggle collapsed list:</div>
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# X41
# X41 +1
# Daniel (wabkebab)
# no_maam (Erik)
# ryd
# ryd + 1
# Nina
# Malaclypse
# [[User:zer0|zer0]]
# junglerot
# junglerot +1
# {{U|hanemile}}
# [[User:murble|murb]]
# coderobe
# [[User:maltman23|mitch]]
# Daniel (Skrizi)
# mareike
# Zornem
# carton
# carton's +1
# spoonzy
# katia
# katia +1
# Armin
# flex
# flex + 1
# sannoso
# {{U|mc.fly}}
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# Tido
# Tido +1
# haegar
# cityroler
# ArisValeborn
# [[User:kraln|kraln]]
# [[User:zornem|zornem]]
# [[User:cqc|cqc]]
# cqc +1
# Foxboron
# tr4ck3ur
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# [tj] (but only for the first two days and then will consider "dropping" the wrist band for some minor financing)
# ~~bonzi~~ (no longer needed)
# pesco
# gracc
# river
# {{U|Wall-e}}
# {{U|Wall-e}}
# tdr112
# tdr112 +1
# petepriority
# kgz
# kgz + 1
# Dutchmartin
# JimGM0UIN
# webhat
# webhat +1
# qt
# q66
# hds
# hds +1
# willscott
# willscott +1+2
# j5
# j5 +1
# sather
# sather +1
# oTTr
# gmackie
# nea
# nea +1
# Malaclypse +1
# Malaclypse +1
# warpfork
# warpfork +1
# tprg
# tprg +1
# Tprg +2
# i_ball
# i_ball +1
# i_ball + 2
# pseudomiasma / gammy / misty
# identity
# thomascovenant
# kiboneu
# kiboneu +1
# kiboneu +2
# kiboneu +3
# nina +1 (Andreas +1)
# nina +2
# kit_ty_kate
# malaclypse
# Wietse (pixelbar)
# Wietse +1 (pixelbar)
# wasamasa
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# willscott +1
# fellmoon
# kiboneu +4
# fellmoon +1
# Tatiana
# cityroler +1
# sleepyentropy +2
# sleepyentropy +3
# sleepyentropy +4
# sleepyentropy +5
# Tido +2
# Geregelt
# Moeglichewelten
# morganamilo
# morganamilo +1
# edenstar
# edenstar +1
# [[user:flauschi|flauschi]]
# DerLaslo
# pandora
# pandora +1
# emerson
# korkenzieher
# g0ph3r
# tprg +4
# tprg +5
# fellmoon +2
# kiboneu +5
# kiboneu +6 (if highly available)
# suqdiq
# jsharin
# jsharin +1
# [ALLES!] eibwen `eibwen.`
# [ALLES!] Gehim `gehim`
# [ALLES!] Gehim +1
# [ALLES!] Nayos `_nayos`
# ax
# doctor-love
# doctor-love +1
# jemma
# jemma +1
# anonymous
# anonymous
# anonymous
# kiboneu +7 (late confirmation of member #8)
# zer0
# ava

</div>

38c3-voucher-queue

2024-10-27T12:02:21Z

Fellmoon: /* needs voucher */

38c3 voucher queue

One person per line! If you need 2 tickets you need 2 lines.
This is that we can use the count functionality of the Mediawiki.

Also please make sure that the people handling this voucers later have a way to contact you. Being in the matrix / irc room with the same nick (and actually reading that) should do it.

=== please contact me ASAP as i can't reach you ===

If you are here in the list i cannot reach you.

# mwfc
# namero
# [[User:6eau|Ⅹ]]
# Geregelt

=== needs voucher ===

Add yourself here if you want a voucher.

# Mirko Adam
# Mirko Adam +1
# coderobe +1
# ava
# ava +1
# nyx
# nyx + 1
# plasma
# jemma
# jemma +1
# pandora
# pandora +1
# javivi
# javivi +1
# wasamasa
# kiboneu
# kiboneu +1
# kiboneu +2 ( [+2 .. +5] if highly available )
# kiboneu +3
# kiboneu +4
# kiboneu +5
# morganamilo
# morganamilo +1
# Daniel (wabkebab)
# mrtrousers
# Moeglichewelten
# kiboneu +6 (if highly available)
# J/C
# blende666
# blende666 +1
# fellmoon
# emerson
# korkenzieher
# kit_ty_kate
# Tatiana
# willscott +1
# edenstar
# edenstar +1
# tprg +4
# tprg +5
# sleepyentropy +2
# sleepyentropy +3
# sleepyentropy +4
# sleepyentropy +5
# Tido +2
# nina +1
# nina +2
# fellmoon +1
# fellmoon +2

=== has voucher ===

I will move you here from "needs voucher" in the process. If you have the confirmation that the money has arrived please move yourself to the next section - has ticket.

=== has ticket ===

Please add yourself here if you have your payment confirmation or if you travel with milliways and got a ticket from somewhere else than this list (for example emfcamp, the scottish or any other source)

# no_maam (Erik)
# ryd
# ryd + 1
# Nina
# Malaclypse
# [[User:zer0|zer0]]
# junglerot
# junglerot +1
# {{U|hanemile}}
# [[User:murble|murb]]
# coderobe
# [[User:maltman23|mitch]]
# Daniel (Skrizi)
# mareike
# Zornem
# carton
# carton's +1
# spoonzy
# katia
# katia +1
# Armin
# flex
# flex + 1
# sannoso
# mc.fly
# sleepyentropy
# sleepyentropy +1
# Tido
# Tido +1
# haegar
# cityroler
# ArisValeborn
# [[User:kraln|kraln]]
# [[User:zornem|zornem]]
# [[User:cqc|cqc]]
# cqc +1
# Foxboron
# tr4ck3ur
# boreq
# boreq + 1
# [tj] (but only for the first two days and then will consider "dropping" the wrist band for some minor financing)
# ~~bonzi~~ (no longer needed)
# pesco
# gracc
# river
# {{U|Wall-e}}
# {{U|Wall-e}}
# tdr112
# tdr112 +1
# petepriority
# kgz
# kgz + 1
# Dutchmartin
# JimGM0UIN
# webhat
# webhat +1
# qt
# q66
# hds
# hds +1
# willscott
# willscott +1
# j5
# j5 +1
# sather
# sather +1
# oTTr
# gmackie
# nea
# nea +1
# Malaclypse +1
# Malaclypse +1
# warpfork
# warpfork +1
# tprg
# tprg +1
# Tprg +2
# i_ball
# i_ball +1
# i_ball + 2
# pseudomiasma / gammy / misty
# identity
# thomascovenant

38c3-voucher-queue

2024-10-24T11:39:10Z

Fellmoon: /* needs voucher */

37c3-travelers

2023-11-26T21:17:41Z

Fellmoon:

Please consider joining the next two ticket rounds (no voucher needed) in order to get tickets for those in need of some. 2023-11-29 20:00 (MEZ) and 2023-12-02 15:00 (MEZ). Feel free to hang out in https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways during the sales.

Don't have a ticket or have some over? Look here: https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=37c3-ticket-trade

== Travelers having a ticket ==

* {{U|hanemile}}
* ottr
* edk
* zornem
* {{U|Mc.fly}}
* Nina
* Malaclypse
* Sannoso
* Tido
* murble
* ava
* tprg
* diox
* carton
* cityroler
* XlogicX
* {{U|dvb}}
* nea
* ryd
* Shell
* {{U|Discontinuity}}
* lpoujol
* skrizi
* atomsk
* {{U|Fellmoon}}

==== freeside ====

* willscott
* cqc
* boreq

CCCamp 2023

2023-06-27T19:38:30Z

Fellmoon: /* Ada's Café */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2023

the Chaos Communication Camp 2023 will be '''August 15 - 19 2023''' at the '''Ziegeleipark Mildenberg'''. Same location as CCC Camp 2015 and 2019

== recent news ==

* will be at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg again.
* tickets sale already over: https://events.ccc.de/2023/05/29/camp23-presale/ Some brief info on our [[CCCamp2023-presales|Ticket sales page]]
* next meeting: '''Tuesday Jun 6 at 20:00 CET''' at https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways
* There exists a big info page with all camp related information from the camp people here: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/infos/index.html

== communication ==

Communication for the milliways cluster at the Chaos Communication Camp 2023 will be on a room that is bridged between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.

* '''IRC''': join #milliways-camp23 at irc.hackint.org
* '''Matrix''': join #camp23:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/!iPRTmLJGAARJMIXxiX:milliways.info?via=milliways.info&via=matrix.org&via=fairydust.space)

== coin ==

there will be one. details unclear yet.
Coin Order [[User:Cobolt]] [[User:mc.fly]]

== subvillages ==

([https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Category:Village List of all registered villages in milliways] (create new villages [[Form:Village|here]])], then add the village manually below (this is still to be automated))

=== [[freeside|freeside]] ===

* Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so in the future. #freeside on hackint.

* Main Contact: {{U|Willscott}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|coderobe}}
* Infra
** We plan to bring our own gazebo to place in the central plaza/circle
** We want to source biergarten tables x1 or x2

=== [[camp2023-scottish|scottish consulate]] ===

Has traveled with milliways in the past. tj confirmed that they want to travel with us again.

* Main Contact: {{U|tj}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|hibby}}

=== [[Irish_Embassy|Irish Embassy]] ===
* Main Contact: {{U|tdr}}
A small group with links to Ireland
=== [[emfcamp|emfcamp]] ===

We're in.

* Main Contact: {{U|Russ}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|jonty}}

=== [[camp2023-teurcamp|tEUrCamp - The US Hacker Camp in Europe!]] ===

tEUrCamp is back with the Ada's Cafe, programmable sign, and other fun stuff from 'merica. More info at [https://teurcamp.toorcon.net https://teurcamp.toorcon.net].

* Main Contact: {{U|Salt}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|h1kari}}

=== [[sigsegv|sigsegv]] ===

Has traveled with milliways in the past. Scandinavians. :-)

* Main Contact: {{U|Foxboron}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|andy}}

=== [[Hardware Hacking Village|Hardware Hacking Village]] / [[Belgian Embassy|Belgian embassy]] ===

Requires confirmation of commitment. Has traveled with milliways in the past.

The Hardware Hacking Village takes place under the tent that attaches to the big Belgian Bus.

* Main Contact: {{U|Mitch}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|Kliment}}
* CircuitCircle Noise Toys Soldering Workshops: {{U|Alwin}}

===[[Icelandic Embassy|Icelandic embassy]]?===

Requires confirmation of commitment. Has traveled with milliways in the past.

Please remove this line if you want to commit to joining as a subvillage

* Main Contact: YOUR_NAME_HERE
* Fallback Contact: YOUR_NAME_HERE

=== [[camp2023-spanish-village|spanish village]] ===

Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so :)

* Main Contact: {{U|maes}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|n0p}}

=== [[Kepler2.0 the solarlounge|Kepler2.0 the solarlounge]] ===

(name still to be finalized)

Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so :)

* Main Contact: {{U|ava}}
* Fallback Contact: YOUR_NAME_HERE

=== [[Digitale Gesellschaft |Digitale Gesellschaft]] ===

HIP-Homies :-D

* Main Contact: {{U|Tom}}
* Fallback Contact: {{U|e-punk}}

=== [[End Summer Camp]] ===

coffee providers at MCH-2022 :-)

* Main Contact: {{U|Lucent}}
* Fallback Contact: updating soon

== Maps ==

* super high res map with no overlay
** https://cdn.eventphone.de/maps/ziegeleipark/
* map with scale
** https://map.events.ccc.de/camp/2023/map/#16/53.03136/13.30688

== travelers ==

<s>[[CCCamp2023-voucher-queue|Voucher page]]</s> -- There are no vouchers for CCCamp2023. Tickets will be sold in three batches. [[CCCamp2023-presales|Ticket sales page]]

[[CCCamp2023-participants|Participant page]]

[[CCCamp_2023-hackers-on-a-plane|Hackers on a plane]] (DEFCON -> CCCAMP)

== teams ==

=== [[CCCamp_2023-TravelManagement|Milliways Travel Management]] ===

This is the group of people mostly organizing the cluster / village on the Chaos Communication Camp 2023.

* crew
** [[User:mc.fly]]
** [[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:cy]]
** [[User:SuperQ]]
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:maes]]
** [[User:iljavS]]
** [[User:firel0x]]
** [[User:kraln]]
** [[User:Ljrk]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-kitchen|Kitchen]] ===

* about 500 meals/day
* three stage (prep backend, serving frontend, washing station)
* crew
** Main Kitchen
*** [[User:Zornem]]
*** Nina
*** [[User:Will Scott]]
*** [[User:Kite]]
*** [[User:sharebrained]]
*** [[User:macker]]
*** [[User:Evilpacket]]
*** mautf,rcin

** Bakery
*** [[User:cookinggroffa]]
*** [[User:macker]]
*** [[User:sharebrained]]
*** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
*** marcin

=== [[CCCamp_2023-buildup|Buildup/Teardown]] ===

'''THE MORE PEOPLE THE BETTER: ADD YOURSELF !!!'''

* Transport (we need to get stuff from Unna (Hemmerde) to Mildenberg)
** you'll need a C license. B is only valid for 7.5t (3.5 if youre 41 or younger)
** ~5 hours by car
** [[User:Blmt]] could legally drive. Haven't driven trucks in some time though (it may take a bit longer).
** [[User:Quorth]] is driving from NL to the camp in a camper - might be able to transport some stuff if needed between NL and CCC (and back)
* Buildup crew
** [[User:Salt]]
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Betz]]
** [[User:AVA]]
** [[User:Quorth]] + 1colleague
** [[User:Mirsal]]
** [[User:oTTer]]
** [[User:boreq]]
** [[User:Nano]]
** [[User:Tido]]
* Teardown crew
** [[User:Salt]]
** [[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Cobolt]]
** [[User:Quorth]] + 1colleague
** [[User:Nano]]
** [[User:Tido]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-infodesk|Infodesk]] ===

* secretary
* social media
* heaven
* crew
** [[User:Hanemile]]
** [[User:Cy]]
** [[User:Cobolt]]
** [[User:Ljrk]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-power-net|Power + Network]] ===

* crew
** [[User:coderobe]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:mirsal]]
** shadow

* should communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de once its possible (together with water team)
** has been done, they know we're coming :D

=== water team ===
** shadow

* should communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de once its possible (together with power/network team)

=== [[CCCamp_2023-art-of-light-decoration|art of light and decoration]] ===
* task - make milliways awesome & colorful
** setting up the decoration and the lights.

** make Art & Beauty at milliways.

kinda requirement; Be on site at least 2 days early.

Topics at the moment: Decorations, PAR, light fixtures, DMX, programming the light with DMX...

* crew
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Armin]]
** shadow
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:Tido]]
** Add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-content|Content]] ===

* Managing the content on the stage.
* Handling the CFP and the resulting Fahrplan
* we might want to get the manege / amphitheater thing

crew
** Main: [[User:Ilja]], [[User:Erik]], [[User:Mc.fly]]
** Backup/Interested: [[User:Hanemile]], [[User:Cy]], [[User:Cobolt]], Shadow, awtnmy JimGM0UIN, [[User:HelenLeigh]]

With milliways we'll be hosting a stage and a workshop area. If you would like to give a talk or a workshop - let us know via https://pretalx.c3voc.de/chaos-communication-camp-2023/cfp

=== [[CCCamp_2023-Hardware_Hacking_Area | Hardware Hacking Village]] ===

* Organize the Hardware Hacking Area infrastructure
* crew
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Cobolt]] I have a motorcycle loom and ECU hacking project I should be in the middle of would be cool to show this off.
*** nice, I'd love to know more, let's meet at camp sometime ~[[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:Betz]]
** [[User:HelenLeigh]]
** [[User:Overflo]]
** [[User:Cibomahto]]
** [[User:tdr]]
** [[User:Tido]]
** add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-train | Train]] ===

* Organize some kind of vehicle that can be used to transport stuff via the on-site railway infrastructure
* crew
** [[User:Maes]]
** [[User:Quorth]] +1

=== [[CCCamp_2023-music | Music]] ===

* the music itself

* crew
** [[User:coderobe]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:Maes]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-beer | Beer]] ===

* Team beer organizes, well... beer.
* gets local beer contact from mc.fly (100dreds of different kegs)
* Should be able to have german phone-calls
* keep an eye on who sponsors what keg
* crew
** [[User:Cobolt]] happy to help figure this out
** [[User:Ljrk]] + possibly their gf
** Saluber
** Add yourselves here!

=== [[CCCamp_2023-stage | Stage]] ===

PLEASE BRING A DECT!

** [[User:Kraln]] -> main contact
** [[User:helpmerob]] possibly?
** [[User:Bugspriet]] arriving on friday
** [[User:Maes]] possibly? depends on transport

Organization via git and matrix. See https://git.milliways.info/Milliways/camp-2023-orga/issues/17

== Free Beer ==

Free software contains elements of free speech and free beer.

While the free speech part is done in the content of the camp we look for free beer.

That works that people and groups of people donate a keg of beer together.

We need the beer keg list from the beer vendor and start asking people what they want.

[[CCCamp2023-beer-list|The free beer list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

=== beer vendor ===
[[CCCamp_2023-kitchen#Beer]]

== milliways cyber circus ==

milliways wants to run a stage.

* would like to run a stage around 200 people.
* for talks together with other villages, like HiP
* hacking / technical talks
* we have a dream, an idea, no contracts signed.
* <tl/dr> we would like to make a manege.
* https://milliways.social/@mcfly/109678808780331782
* would join a CFP, seperate content teams and a talk sharing system.
* mc.fly, Ilja, maltman23, hanemile, pandora, [[User:Ljrk]]

== infrastructure ==

=== HoBo Tents ===

on camp 2015 + 2019 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

=== Bierzeltgarnituren ===

=== Power & Network ===

== Meetings ==

* Upcoming meetings
** Meeting's take place in the Milliways Jitsi: '''https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways'''
** For now, all dates are on '''Tuesdays'''
** See the [[CCCamp_2023#communication| Communications]] Section for instant-communication services

Dates

* feb - april monthly
* april - july bi-weekly
* july - camp weekly

We're still figuring out a weekday, as soon we've got it the next meeting will be on that weekday in the time period of 2022-02-13 - 2022-02-19. We'll announce it and the date and agenda will be here:

=== January Meeting (2023-01-21 20:00) ===

* General "kick off"
* https://cpad.milliways.info/pad/#/2/pad/edit/IL7mlowjQ54VCSi+Q+LA6pcs/

=== February Meeting (2023-02-21 20:00) ===

* Any essential teams missing? Should we make a larger "call for team people" or so?
* Communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de
* update channel topic to show next meeting

[[CCCamp-2023-February-Meeting-Notes]]

https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/P+JhLDxh+wEunVMxnyd259uk/

=== March Meeting (2023-03-21 20:00) ===

* setup pretalx for CfP
* update channel topic to show next meeting
* open QUestions from february meeting
** decorations team
** power / network
** update on the manege situation

https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp-2023-March-Meeting-Notes

=== April Meeting (2023-04-18 20:00) ===

https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/lMpEavAnVhOGnbpzVGZO6KO7/

=== May Meeting 1 (2023-05-09 20:00) ===

https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/dBoG9jchumgDuacArcjUF3rs/

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20230509T180000&p1=136&p2=37&p3=179&p4=137&p5=237

- update channel topic to show next meeting

TL;DR:
* insert TL;DR here

=== May Meeting 2 (2023-05-23 20:00) ===

- meeting notes: https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/2wrj7oJR6J1h-HAVzvHljhX0/

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== June Meeting 1 (2023-06-06 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

- Ticket presale (1 of 3 dates) during this meeting (21:00 CEST)
https://events.ccc.de/2023/05/29/camp23-presale/

- Need a kitchen head (SuperQ won't be able to make it D:, so we need someone else who can take care of the kitchen)

=== June Meeting 2 (2023-06-20 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 1 (2023-07-04 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 2 (2023-07-11 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 3 (2023-07-18 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 4 (2023-07-25 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== August Meeting 1 (2023-08-01 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== August Meeting 2 (2023-08-08 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meet... wait, no, the next meeting is at CAMP!

=== Daily On-Camp -2 (2023-08-12 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp -1 (2023-08-13 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 0 (2023-08-14 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 1 (2023-08-15 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 2 (2023-08-16 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 3 (2023-08-17 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 4 (2023-08-18 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 5 (2023-08-19 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 6 (2023-08-19 14:00) ===

== crazy ideas ==

=== The Milliways cyber circus - The Manege ===

* Plan A - said its complicated, does not answer anymore

<s>https://www.firmatraktor.com/de-tenten/item/opticum</s>

* Plan B - said no spiegeltents availible

<s>https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace</s>

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

=== workshops ===

*space
** we probably have space, if tEURcamp brings their dome and we bring ours.

*content
** we are the "content team," in that we approve the workshops, but we can still get our workshops on the big schedule everyone can see. This has worked before.
** We've also had luck with last-minute workshops, using chalkboard and infodesk to get outside presenters to sign up.

=== Biiiicycles ===

* Cargo bike?
* Bikesharing system?
** [[User:Hanemile]]

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.
=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Ada's Café ===
taken from the 2019 wiki page.

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?
* [https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Projects:Coffee:_Ada%27s_Cafe CCCamp Project Page]

h1kar1 and sharebrained have state on how we did espresso in 2019. It involved a rented machine and some improvised plumbing to run it from bottled water.

People maybe interested in doing 
* fellmoon?
* h1kari?
* superq?
* willscott?
* [[User:Ljrk]]
* [[User:Nano]]

=== Accept cryptocurrency ===

This was tried in a halfass way long ago at a congress, but nobody opted to pay this way. Software has changed in the decade since then.

* Bitcoin and Ethereum both have L2 networks (Lightning and zkSync) that lower transaction fees and settle in <10min. At congress in ~2018 or so, a vendor was selling coffee via bitcoin lightning to prove the value of L2. Normally fees would be high compared to the price of a coffee, and the chain would take much longer to commit than it takes to make the coffee, but L2 solves this.
* Ethereum no longer has any weather veganism issues because of proof-of-stake, and
* there are many aggressively-funded slick closed source phone apps (for better or worse).
* Also Monero, a privacy preserving cryptocurrency, with real FLOSS & cypherpunk ethos.

We could make a comforting point-of-sale system installed on a physical device that stays in Ada Cafe that can display a per-purchase QR code. This is not to sell espresso, which would still be free, but for donations.

People maybe interested in doing 
* carton
* [[User:don|trimetilo]] (Interested in exploring the feasibility of using an Ethereum L2).
* [[User:Cobolt]] (Could be willing to act as a currency converter from BTC to EUR/GBP/USD if this is required)
* **vdo** (Monero PoS)

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful and Ada Colau Alcaldesa Barcelona

=== Hammock Forrest ===

Idea: [[User:Hanemile]]

Seen the hammock things with one center pole and a lot of side poles spanning the hammocks in a sort of star form? Well let's do this, but at another scale by adding some more.

* What we'd need:
** A lot of hammocks
** A lot of wood (to build frames)

=== Hardware Happy Hour ===

[[User: Helen Leigh]]

https://hardwarehappyhour.com

=== UV yarn ===

Like at MCH but better. Need the power/anti-rain-causing-a-short stuff from storage?

Idea: [[User:boreq]]

=== MobilTschunkZelle ===

Cargobike-based Tschunk Bar idea I've been toying with. Miserable pun on the german "Mobilfunkzelle" (=radio cell).

What's there:

* a shitty, old non-electric cargo bike that could be used for this
* wood to build a hexagonal radio cell frame

What's needed:

* input if anybody wants to help realize this
* lights etc. to decorate the frame
* Tschunk ingredients & storage
* transport Hamburg <--> Camp

Idea: [[User:wall-e]]

User:Fellmoon

2023-06-27T19:34:46Z

Fellmoon:

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User:Fellmoon

2023-06-27T19:33:21Z

Fellmoon:

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User:Fellmoon

2023-06-27T19:32:14Z

Fellmoon:

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User:Fellmoon

2023-06-27T19:31:30Z

Fellmoon:

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User:Fellmoon

2023-06-27T19:30:01Z

Fellmoon:

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CCCamp2023-voucher-queue

2022-11-27T11:03:52Z

Fellmoon: /* list */

this is the queue for vouchers for the Chaos Communication Camp 2023

== the ticket situation for camp 2023 ==

There will likely again not be a public sale, everything will go over (respwaning) vouchers.
This means we need to plan properly, everyone who wants to come should be on the voucher list.

This means there will be a massive shortage of tickets and we won't
get the amount of tickets that we usually are able to retrieve through
the old voucher system. This voucher system will be only used on the
camp as far as I know and that is due to the shortage of tickets which
will be at the same number as last time in 2019.

So to speak out the ugly truth we will have to prioritize some people
over others - that just is the consequence out of the situation.

I will therefore prioritize people who commit to do something for
milliways on the camp and then people who have done something for
milliways in the past and then try to come up with something fair for
the rest of the vouchers. I do not feel well by this and are open to
other suggestions in how to proceed there but its the best solution we
have come up with so far.

== list ==
# Mc.Fly
# ryd
# malaclypse
# Nina
# Haegar
# fellmoon
# sihuse

=== ticket exchange - wants a ticket ===

=== ticket exchange - has extra tickets ===

=== did not make it ===

37c3-voucher-queue

2022-06-14T13:41:42Z

Fellmoon:

This will become the participants list for 37c3 / voucher list.

participants:
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# Dr Meowmeow, ToorCamp
# Nyx
# Nina
# Malaclypse
# valka
# s3krit
# Cobolt
# Cobolt +1
# IllWill (Contact Cobolt)
# IllWill +1
# coderobe
# Shadow
# Shadow +1
# Foxboron (sigsegv)
# seirof (likely angelvoucher)
# cqc
# qt
# willscott
# Pidgey
# AAB
# Sharka
# Sharka +1
# touya
# lysobit
# pjemb
# squidget
# squidget +1 (emma)
# kgz
# kgz +1
# sjurtf (sigsegv)
# jA_cOp (sigsegv)
# legz (sigsegv)
# raWrz (sigsegv)
# Oryx (sigsegv)
# Andy (sigsegv)
# gamithra
# x47df
# x47df +1 (flacs)
# SleepyEntropy
# SleepyEntropy +1
# neuratix (sigsegv)
# SkelfFankle
# cznk (sigsegv)
# Gozno (sigsegv)
# Matt T (xw)
# sandsmark (sigsegv)
# marcin
# boreq
# joshbal4
# joshbal4 + 1 (justin)
# joshbal4 + 2 (shad)
# azk
# fellmoon

Drinkups

2020-01-28T11:54:34Z

Fellmoon:

Some people of milliways meet to drink some beers from time to time. Milliways drink ups are a great way to meet and see your friends between cons and camps. If you're local or in town for work/life/running from the law etc come join us for a beer and some bites.

==Rotterdam==

Rotterdam drinkup meets from time to time at pixelbar to drink some beers. Talk to mc.fly ....

==London==

Bi-monthly drink ups at loading... bar Dalston [https://loading.bar] the 1st and 3rd Thursday starting at 6:30pm to 8:30pm (or later if you want to hang out). When you arrive you can ask the bar for Milliways and should be pointed to the group, bring a Milliways coin if you have one as it could nab you a free beer ;)

97 Stoke Newington Rd, Stoke Newington, London N16 8BX

Tube: Overground - Rectory Road or Dalston Junction

Bus: Princess May Road - 67, 76, 149, 243
Newington Green - 21, 73, 141, 236, 341, 476

==Berlin==

==Hamburg==
Pesco is doing a Cyberpunkish bar evening every month on the MS stubnitz
In case of doubt check http://cabletrash.de/ for time and place

==Seattle==

Seattle currently enjoys a well run hacker drink up with a number of Milliways people likely attending, if you're local and want to organize a Milliways crew that could be a good place to start feel free to replace this with more details.

EMFCAMP2020-ticket-queue

2020-01-23T11:18:55Z

Fellmoon: /* Travelers */

This is the queue for vouchers for [[EMFCAMP2020]].

== Travelers ==
* goat
* p01arst0rm
* i8br (x41)
* vifino
* marcin/whatsinaname
* pandora
* Nyx
* willscott
* tjg +1
* tjg +1
* tjg +1
* pesco
* pesco +1
* df
* df + 1
* tuxcoder
* fialo4ka (tuxcoder contact)
* firel0x
* firel0x + 1
* fellmoon + snoopy

== Travelers with ticket ==
* mc.fly
* cookingroffa
* sleepyentropy
* carton
* ForgottenPackage
* cqc
* joelanders
* coderobe
* coderobe +1
* coderobe +1
* tjg '''(PAID)'''
* tjg +1 '''(PAID)'''
* tjg +1 '''(PAID)'''
* boreq
* valka
* s3krit
* Demon

EMFCAMP2020

2020-01-23T11:18:16Z

Fellmoon: /* Who is considering attending */

https://www.emfcamp.org/

July 23rd – 26th 2020
Eastnor, UK

Wiki emfcamp 2018: [[EMFCAMP2018]]

== Documents ==

Planning Pad at: https://pad.x41.rocks/n208J812RMGg82XY7hWO-g?edit#

== Travelers ==

Ticket/voucher queue at: [[EMFCAMP2020-ticket-queue]]

== Who is considering attending ==

* boreq
* kgz
* coderobe, if time and cash allows it
* valka
* s3krit
* mc.fly - no transport possible, coming from vacation in scotland
* cookingroffa
* carton - have camp ticket, but not yet Alabama -> London ticket
* marcin/whatsinaname
* pesco +1
* Midder (Scottish Consulate)
* Goat
* p01arst0rm
* fox (Coven)
* cqc
* ruru4143
* firel0x
* fellmoon
* snoopy

== Crazy Ideas ==
* a music space made out of stray/hay bales

CCCamp 2019

2019-08-02T20:54:55Z

Fellmoon: /* Ada's Café */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== travelers ==

[[CCCamp2019-participants|Participant page]]

The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.

== teams ==
=== orga ===

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

=== Kitchen ===

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

=== Buildup/Teardown ===

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

=== Infodesk ===

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

=== power + network ===

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== beer wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-beer-list|The beer wish list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

== HoBo Tents ==

on camp 2015 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/10b41734-3cb0-49dc-bb06-40982f5dfa42 scottish embassy] ===

=== [https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=TeurCamp tEUrCamp: The US Hacker Camp in Europe!] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/9dca1e84-ad37-454e-8da1-323aad3b19bc Sigsegv] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/1bcd2b85-9346-4abb-9b62-79de768add0e Freeside] ===

=== Icelandic Embassy? ===

=== Belgian Embassy / [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/c4fdb697-bc67-425e-a374-3b0301743af3 Hardware Hacking Area] ===

[https://static.miraheze.org/httcwiki/a/ad/Bus-model-area-dimensioned.png Link to the layout of Belgian Embassy bus and its tent, with communal area and 1.5m perimeter]

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/6179e671-f3cd-4195-8172-24e6d262a5a3 ELS] ===

=== [https://spanishvillage.space/ Spanish village] ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== milliways radio ===

milliways radio on 104.2

coderobe has a transmitter

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

no benches

=> Get precise price for 10 of these, do it.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=> If we get it onto the truck we'll do that.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

C5 forum: http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Ada's Café ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?
* [https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Projects:Coffee:_Ada%27s_Cafe CCCamp Project Page]

People interested in doing 
* fellmoon
* snoopy
* h1kari
* superq

'''Equipment'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Qty
! Equipment
! Status
! Notes
|-
| 1
| La Marzocco Linea PB 2 Group Espresso Machine
| h1kari
| Provided by La Marzocco Berlin!
|-
| 2
| Mahlkonig E65s Espresso Grinders
| h1kari
| Provided by Sander-Tec Berlin!
|-
| 1
| Pitcher Rinser
| h1kari
| Will be flown in
|-
| 1
| Knock Box
| h1kari
| Will be improvised using trash/compost cans on-site
|-
| 1
| Undercounter Refrigerator
| h1kari
| Will be purchased locally when in-town the week before, unless there's one we can borrow
|-
| 1
| Commercial Coffee Maker
| 1 Home Machine, 1 Airpot brewer
| [https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000ALVUM6 Home machine] does ~1.2L, [https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07J4XDJVL/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 airpot brewer] does ~2.2L
|-
| 4
| 4L drink dispensers
| fellmoon & snoopy
| for fruit-water, selfmade ice tea etc.
|-
| 1
| Mahlkonig EK-43s Grinder
| h1kari
| Provided by Sander-Tec Berlin!
|-
| 2
| 20L Waterkanister
| fellmoon & snoopy
| Water canisters for feeding espresso machine and equipment
|-
| 2
| Scales
| h1kari
| Will fly these in
|-
| 1+
| Goose neck electric kettle
| need help!
| Is there anyone local to europe that has one they can bring? (220v)
|-
|
| Misc plumbing
| h1kari
| Need various tubing to connect espresso machine and pitcher rinser to water supply. Bringing flojet so we can run off water canisters if needed. Will also source buckets to collect waste water.
|-
|
| Misc power cables
| h1kari
| Will purchase power and extension cables to plug everything in. Will probably need at least 2 dedicated circuits to run equipment.
|-
|
| Microfiber towels
| h1kari
| Will bring out on airplane
|-
|
| Milk pitchers
| h1kari
| Will bring out on airplane
|-
|
| Tampers
| h1kari
| Will be provided by supplier or will bring out on airplane
|-
|
| Misc brewing equipment
| h1kari + others
| Will bring in a few different hand brewers for people to play with (pour over, siphon, aeropress, etc). Please bring any you think would be fun to play with!
|-
|
| Misc size cups
| h1kari
| Will bring out various smaller size cups and shot glasses for <8oz espresso service
|}

'''Sample Menu'''
* Espresso
* Espresso+Milk (4oz, 6oz, 8oz, 12oz) (+vanilla?)
* 1+1
* Mocha
* Chai
* Coffee
* Tea

'''Supplies'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Amount
! Item
! Source
! Notes
|-
| 6kg
| Coffee
| fellmoon, snoopy, & h1kari
| Sourcing from local roaster (2kg hammabrooklyn coffee) and some coming in from Seattle
|-
| TBD
| Milk
| superq?
| Whole milk, [https://t.co/gDCsIt8mpS?amp=1 oat milk]. Buying from wholesaler
|-
| TBD
| Syrups
| superq?
| Chai, Vanilla, & Chocolate. Buying from wholesaler or local store, unless kitchen wants to make some.
|-
| TBD
| Tea
| fellmoon & snoopy
| Black, Mate, Herbal. Buying from wholesaler locally
|-
| TBD
| Mint & Citrus Fruits
| superq?
|
|-
| 300
| 8oz coffee mugs
| h1kari
| Will be giving out to all tEUrCampers and maybe Milliwaysians?
|-
| 60 seats
| Table & Seating
| h1kari
| Put in request with infodesk to get seating
|-
| 3
| Cafe Bar
| h1kari
| Tables for running the cafe from, put in request with infodesk to rent
|-
|}

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
*Panda
*AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
*FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

=== Milliways PCB art batch ===

PCB with Milliways design in copper and solder mask plus some LEDs to light it up.
Maybe as soldering challenge.

Example circuit https://hackaday.io/project/25265-an-unfortunate-smd-project#menu-description

Example PCB art https://trmm.net/PCB_art

=== Sinister wood-sprite selfie area ===
Idea: carton

I would like to build sinister wood-sprite selfie area in a corner of the dome to take photos like this: https://500px.com/photo/311483707

The backdrop attaches to the dome with spring clamps. Strobe & reflector attach with https://www.adorama.com/mtgridhead.html + https://innport.eu/en/light-stands/735-Muraro-MU33040.html . There's meant to be moonlight from above via a large umbrella, and lantern-light from the left via a gold reflector bouncing back the moonlight. Most of the fun comes from $40 aliexpress vinyl backdrop meant for kids' birthdays. The 500px photo is taken with a setup a bit better than what I'd be able to bring so it's not guaranteed to work as well but might look about like that. I'd buy all this stuff---not asking for budget. I'd want to leave the heavy grip stuff with Milliways, though.

I expect it's not set up all the time, only at the more-sober beginning-time of party night or something like that, for two reasons:

* uses too much dome-space.
* need to mind my camera doesn't get knocked in the mud.
* . . . though unattended B-Y-O-camera mode is feasible by borrowing strobe transmitter from me.

Needed:

* EU shipping address^W^W^W we have that now.
* selfie materials. I plan to bring wings, beards, and golden elf collars that you see on 500px. we need:
** moar. more anything.
** war lantern

(warning photos not available until after the camp. I won't have the mac desktop that runs the proprietary developing app with me.)

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== GPN last weekend of may ==

There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN

People going:
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)
# valka
# s3krit
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# ryd (?)
# miketango
# superQ (?)
# tuxcoder

Brain dump from GPN 31/05/2019 from s3krit

dutch market things -> benches can come from brewing company
Dome would be a more public/central space (that can be used by satellite camps)

# 6x12 tent
# 4x8 kitchen
# 3x6 bakery

We need to order wood, and there is a deadline for CCC for this, which we need to find out

Helpdesk need a 3x3 bar/cool looking area <- also needs an information radiator (could just be a blackboard) for telling people vital information when walking past.

MikeTango has lots of 246x122x12mm plywood/boards with rust paint (I think) - These can be used to build the tower(s)

Logistics seem like the main sticking point - MikeTango's stuff is on the other side of Germany, Essen is the location of the Milliways storage. Getting this stuff from where it is to Camp feels like the largest thing to solve.
"Eurocrates are awesome" - someone

Look on Ebay for circular rotating >1m lichtbox

"Black on black spaceship 3x3m pad illuminated vlack matte black 2.0/3.0 flat windows 2x2m 20 black cheap"
^ Need builders for this, possibly from the Rotterdam hackerspace. Light landing pads, etc would need UV paint (MikeTango knows the stuff to get).

Lasercut milliways stencil in metal to fit a-gobo light

Train (???) - one of the most useful things for this would be getting stuff from the Camp entrance to our village

Sinclair C5 without motors - maybe speak to moving object people about turning this into something useful/cool.

CCC Shuttle from berlin likely starts 2 or so days from the start of camp.

== field day 08 june 2019 ==

There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:

== Map ==

There is a map for the Milliways area: https://www.milliways.info/cccamp19-map/dist/ .

You can modify the map in Seafile[https://seafile.milliways.info/#group/1/lib/aab3eb44-0b8a-41ae-aaa3-ff8764b0b365/Camp2019/map].
Sugested editor is JOSM[http://josm.openstreetmap.de/],
but you can use any editor that supports OSMXML as format.

Issues report please on the git page[https://git.milliways.info/Milliways/cccamp19-map] or to [[User:Tuxcoder]]

Please add a list of thinks that need space here
* example tent (3m Ø)
* example tent2 (3x8m)
* example group (42 people)

== Mumble ==

[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble]]

CCCamp 2019

2019-08-02T20:52:40Z

Fellmoon: /* Ada's Café */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== travelers ==

[[CCCamp2019-participants|Participant page]]

The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.

== teams ==
=== orga ===

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

=== Kitchen ===

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

=== Buildup/Teardown ===

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

=== Infodesk ===

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

=== power + network ===

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== beer wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-beer-list|The beer wish list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

== HoBo Tents ==

on camp 2015 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/10b41734-3cb0-49dc-bb06-40982f5dfa42 scottish embassy] ===

=== [https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=TeurCamp tEUrCamp: The US Hacker Camp in Europe!] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/9dca1e84-ad37-454e-8da1-323aad3b19bc Sigsegv] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/1bcd2b85-9346-4abb-9b62-79de768add0e Freeside] ===

=== Icelandic Embassy? ===

=== Belgian Embassy / [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/c4fdb697-bc67-425e-a374-3b0301743af3 Hardware Hacking Area] ===

[https://static.miraheze.org/httcwiki/a/ad/Bus-model-area-dimensioned.png Link to the layout of Belgian Embassy bus and its tent, with communal area and 1.5m perimeter]

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/6179e671-f3cd-4195-8172-24e6d262a5a3 ELS] ===

=== [https://spanishvillage.space/ Spanish village] ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== milliways radio ===

milliways radio on 104.2

coderobe has a transmitter

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

no benches

=> Get precise price for 10 of these, do it.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=> If we get it onto the truck we'll do that.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

C5 forum: http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Ada's Café ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?
* [https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Projects:Coffee:_Ada%27s_Cafe CCCamp Project Page]

People interested in doing 
* fellmoon
* snoopy
* h1kari
* superq

'''Equipment'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Qty
! Equipment
! Status
! Notes
|-
| 1
| La Marzocco Linea PB 2 Group Espresso Machine
| h1kari
| Provided by La Marzocco Berlin!
|-
| 2
| Mahlkonig E65s Espresso Grinders
| h1kari
| Provided by Sander-Tec Berlin!
|-
| 1
| Pitcher Rinser
| h1kari
| Will be flown in
|-
| 1
| Knock Box
| h1kari
| Will be improvised using trash/compost cans on-site
|-
| 1
| Undercounter Refrigerator
| h1kari
| Will be purchased locally when in-town the week before, unless there's one we can borrow
|-
| 1
| Commercial Coffee Maker
| 1 Home Machine, 1 Airpot brewer
| [https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000ALVUM6 Home machine] does ~1.2L, [https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07J4XDJVL/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 airpot brewer] does ~2.2L
|-
| 4
| 4L drink dispensers
| fellmoon & snoopy
|
|-
| 1
| Mahlkonig EK-43s Grinder
| h1kari
| Provided by Sander-Tec Berlin!
|-
| 2
| 20L Waterkanister
| fellmoon & snoopy
| Water canisters for feeding espresso machine and equipment
|-
| 2
| Scales
| h1kari
| Will fly these in
|-
| 1+
| Goose neck electric kettle
| need help!
| Is there anyone local to europe that has one they can bring? (220v)
|-
|
| Misc plumbing
| h1kari
| Need various tubing to connect espresso machine and pitcher rinser to water supply. Bringing flojet so we can run off water canisters if needed. Will also source buckets to collect waste water.
|-
|
| Misc power cables
| h1kari
| Will purchase power and extension cables to plug everything in. Will probably need at least 2 dedicated circuits to run equipment.
|-
|
| Microfiber towels
| h1kari
| Will bring out on airplane
|-
|
| Milk pitchers
| h1kari
| Will bring out on airplane
|-
|
| Tampers
| h1kari
| Will be provided by supplier or will bring out on airplane
|-
|
| Misc brewing equipment
| h1kari + others
| Will bring in a few different hand brewers for people to play with (pour over, siphon, aeropress, etc). Please bring any you think would be fun to play with!
|-
|
| Misc size cups
| h1kari
| Will bring out various smaller size cups and shot glasses for <8oz espresso service
|}

'''Sample Menu'''
* Espresso
* Espresso+Milk (4oz, 6oz, 8oz, 12oz) (+vanilla?)
* 1+1
* Mocha
* Chai
* Coffee
* Tea

'''Supplies'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Amount
! Item
! Source
! Notes
|-
| 6kg
| Coffee
| fellmoon, snoopy, & h1kari
| Sourcing from local roaster (2kg hammabrooklyn coffee) and some coming in from Seattle
|-
| TBD
| Milk
| superq?
| Whole milk, [https://t.co/gDCsIt8mpS?amp=1 oat milk]. Buying from wholesaler
|-
| TBD
| Syrups
| superq?
| Chai, Vanilla, & Chocolate. Buying from wholesaler or local store, unless kitchen wants to make some.
|-
| TBD
| Tea
| fellmoon & snoopy
| Black, Mate, Herbal. Buying from wholesaler locally
|-
| TBD
| Mint & Citrus Fruits
| superq?
|
|-
| 300
| 8oz coffee mugs
| h1kari
| Will be giving out to all tEUrCampers and maybe Milliwaysians?
|-
| 60 seats
| Table & Seating
| h1kari
| Put in request with infodesk to get seating
|-
| 3
| Cafe Bar
| h1kari
| Tables for running the cafe from, put in request with infodesk to rent
|-
|}

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
*Panda
*AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
*FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

=== Milliways PCB art batch ===

PCB with Milliways design in copper and solder mask plus some LEDs to light it up.
Maybe as soldering challenge.

Example circuit https://hackaday.io/project/25265-an-unfortunate-smd-project#menu-description

Example PCB art https://trmm.net/PCB_art

=== Sinister wood-sprite selfie area ===
Idea: carton

I would like to build sinister wood-sprite selfie area in a corner of the dome to take photos like this: https://500px.com/photo/311483707

The backdrop attaches to the dome with spring clamps. Strobe & reflector attach with https://www.adorama.com/mtgridhead.html + https://innport.eu/en/light-stands/735-Muraro-MU33040.html . There's meant to be moonlight from above via a large umbrella, and lantern-light from the left via a gold reflector bouncing back the moonlight. Most of the fun comes from $40 aliexpress vinyl backdrop meant for kids' birthdays. The 500px photo is taken with a setup a bit better than what I'd be able to bring so it's not guaranteed to work as well but might look about like that. I'd buy all this stuff---not asking for budget. I'd want to leave the heavy grip stuff with Milliways, though.

I expect it's not set up all the time, only at the more-sober beginning-time of party night or something like that, for two reasons:

* uses too much dome-space.
* need to mind my camera doesn't get knocked in the mud.
* . . . though unattended B-Y-O-camera mode is feasible by borrowing strobe transmitter from me.

Needed:

* EU shipping address^W^W^W we have that now.
* selfie materials. I plan to bring wings, beards, and golden elf collars that you see on 500px. we need:
** moar. more anything.
** war lantern

(warning photos not available until after the camp. I won't have the mac desktop that runs the proprietary developing app with me.)

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== GPN last weekend of may ==

There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN

People going:
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)
# valka
# s3krit
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# ryd (?)
# miketango
# superQ (?)
# tuxcoder

Brain dump from GPN 31/05/2019 from s3krit

dutch market things -> benches can come from brewing company
Dome would be a more public/central space (that can be used by satellite camps)

# 6x12 tent
# 4x8 kitchen
# 3x6 bakery

We need to order wood, and there is a deadline for CCC for this, which we need to find out

Helpdesk need a 3x3 bar/cool looking area <- also needs an information radiator (could just be a blackboard) for telling people vital information when walking past.

MikeTango has lots of 246x122x12mm plywood/boards with rust paint (I think) - These can be used to build the tower(s)

Logistics seem like the main sticking point - MikeTango's stuff is on the other side of Germany, Essen is the location of the Milliways storage. Getting this stuff from where it is to Camp feels like the largest thing to solve.
"Eurocrates are awesome" - someone

Look on Ebay for circular rotating >1m lichtbox

"Black on black spaceship 3x3m pad illuminated vlack matte black 2.0/3.0 flat windows 2x2m 20 black cheap"
^ Need builders for this, possibly from the Rotterdam hackerspace. Light landing pads, etc would need UV paint (MikeTango knows the stuff to get).

Lasercut milliways stencil in metal to fit a-gobo light

Train (???) - one of the most useful things for this would be getting stuff from the Camp entrance to our village

Sinclair C5 without motors - maybe speak to moving object people about turning this into something useful/cool.

CCC Shuttle from berlin likely starts 2 or so days from the start of camp.

== field day 08 june 2019 ==

There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:

== Map ==

There is a map for the Milliways area: https://www.milliways.info/cccamp19-map/dist/ .

You can modify the map in Seafile[https://seafile.milliways.info/#group/1/lib/aab3eb44-0b8a-41ae-aaa3-ff8764b0b365/Camp2019/map].
Sugested editor is JOSM[http://josm.openstreetmap.de/],
but you can use any editor that supports OSMXML as format.

Issues report please on the git page[https://git.milliways.info/Milliways/cccamp19-map] or to [[User:Tuxcoder]]

Please add a list of thinks that need space here
* example tent (3m Ø)
* example tent2 (3x8m)
* example group (42 people)

== Mumble ==

[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble]]

CCCamp 2019

2019-07-10T14:03:35Z

Fellmoon: /* The Milliwas café - name suggestions welcome */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== travelers ==

[[CCCamp2019-participants|Participant page]]

The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.

== teams ==
=== orga ===

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

=== Kitchen ===

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

=== Buildup/Teardown ===

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

=== Infodesk ===

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

=== power + network ===

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== beer wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-beer-list|The beer wish list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

== HoBo Tents ==

on camp 2015 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/10b41734-3cb0-49dc-bb06-40982f5dfa42 scottish embassy] ===

=== [https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=TeurCamp tEUrCamp: The US Hacker Camp in Europe!] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/9dca1e84-ad37-454e-8da1-323aad3b19bc Sigsegv] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/1bcd2b85-9346-4abb-9b62-79de768add0e Freeside] ===

=== Icelandic Embassy? ===

=== Belgian Embassy / [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/c4fdb697-bc67-425e-a374-3b0301743af3 Hardware Hacking Area] ===

[https://static.miraheze.org/httcwiki/a/ad/Bus-model-area-dimensioned.png Link to the layout of Belgian Embassy bus and its tent, with communal area and 1.5m perimeter]

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/6179e671-f3cd-4195-8172-24e6d262a5a3 ELS] ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== milliways radio ===

milliways radio on 104.2

coderobe has a transmitter

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

no benches

=> Get precise price for 10 of these, do it.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=> If we get it onto the truck we'll do that.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

C5 forum: http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== The Milliwas café - name suggestions welcome ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?

People interested in doing 
* fellmoon
* snoopy

available gear: 
* 2x 20l waterkanister (fellmoon & snoopy)
* 4x drink dispensers a 4l
* coffee maker from milliways
* portafilter coffeemaker from (SuperQ)

Coffee/Tea/etc: 
* 2kg hammabrooklyn coffee (fellmoon/snoopy)
* lose black tea (fellmoon/snoopy) - quantity not decided yet
* lose mate tea (fellmoon/snoopy) - quantity not decided yet

needed:
* coffee grinder
* sitting accomandation
* table or bar > dutch marketstand?
* mint
* citrus fruits
* drinking vessels?

building stuff by ourselfes?

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
*Panda
*AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
*FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

=== Milliways PCB art batch ===

PCB with Milliways design in copper and solder mask plus some LEDs to light it up.
Maybe as soldering challenge.

Example circuit https://hackaday.io/project/25265-an-unfortunate-smd-project#menu-description

Example PCB art https://trmm.net/PCB_art

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== GPN last weekend of may ==

There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN

People going:
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)
# valka
# s3krit
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# ryd (?)
# miketango
# superQ (?)
# tuxcoder

Brain dump from GPN 31/05/2019 from s3krit

dutch market things -> benches can come from brewing company
Dome would be a more public/central space (that can be used by satellite camps)

# 6x12 tent
# 4x8 kitchen
# 3x6 bakery

We need to order wood, and there is a deadline for CCC for this, which we need to find out

Helpdesk need a 3x3 bar/cool looking area <- also needs an information radiator (could just be a blackboard) for telling people vital information when walking past.

MikeTango has lots of 246x122x12mm plywood/boards with rust paint (I think) - These can be used to build the tower(s)

Logistics seem like the main sticking point - MikeTango's stuff is on the other side of Germany, Essen is the location of the Milliways storage. Getting this stuff from where it is to Camp feels like the largest thing to solve.
"Eurocrates are awesome" - someone

Look on Ebay for circular rotating >1m lichtbox

"Black on black spaceship 3x3m pad illuminated vlack matte black 2.0/3.0 flat windows 2x2m 20 black cheap"
^ Need builders for this, possibly from the Rotterdam hackerspace. Light landing pads, etc would need UV paint (MikeTango knows the stuff to get).

Lasercut milliways stencil in metal to fit a-gobo light

Train (???) - one of the most useful things for this would be getting stuff from the Camp entrance to our village

Sinclair C5 without motors - maybe speak to moving object people about turning this into something useful/cool.

CCC Shuttle from berlin likely starts 2 or so days from the start of camp.

== field day 08 june 2019 ==

There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:

== Mumble ==

[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble]]

CCCamp 2019

2019-07-10T12:46:49Z

Fellmoon: /* Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== travelers ==

[[CCCamp2019-participants|Participant page]]

The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.

== teams ==
=== orga ===

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

=== Kitchen ===

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

=== Buildup/Teardown ===

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

=== Infodesk ===

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

=== power + network ===

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== beer wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-beer-list|The beer wish list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

== HoBo Tents ==

on camp 2015 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/10b41734-3cb0-49dc-bb06-40982f5dfa42 scottish embassy] ===

=== [https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=TeurCamp tEUrCamp: The US Hacker Camp in Europe!] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/9dca1e84-ad37-454e-8da1-323aad3b19bc Sigsegv] ===

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/1bcd2b85-9346-4abb-9b62-79de768add0e Freeside] ===

=== Icelandic Embassy? ===

=== Belgian Embassy / [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/c4fdb697-bc67-425e-a374-3b0301743af3 Hardware Hacking Area] ===

[https://static.miraheze.org/httcwiki/a/ad/Bus-model-area-dimensioned.png Link to the layout of Belgian Embassy bus and its tent, with communal area and 1.5m perimeter]

=== [https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/6179e671-f3cd-4195-8172-24e6d262a5a3 ELS] ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== milliways radio ===

milliways radio on 104.2

coderobe has a transmitter

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

no benches

=> Get precise price for 10 of these, do it.

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=> If we get it onto the truck we'll do that.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

C5 forum: http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== The Milliwas café - name suggestions welcome ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?

People interested in doing 
* fellmoon
* snoopy

available gear: 
* 2x 20l waterkanister (fellmoon & snoopy)
* 4x drink dispensers a 4l
* coffee maker from milliways
* portafilter coffeemaker from (SuperQ)

Coffee/Tea/etc: 
* 2kg hammabrooklyn coffee (fellmoon/snoopy)
* black tea (fellmoon/snoopy)

needed gear:
* coffee grinder
* sitting accomandation
* table or bar > dutch marketstand?

building stuff by ourselfes?

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
*Panda
*AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
*FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

=== Milliways PCB art batch ===

PCB with Milliways design in copper and solder mask plus some LEDs to light it up.
Maybe as soldering challenge.

Example circuit https://hackaday.io/project/25265-an-unfortunate-smd-project#menu-description

Example PCB art https://trmm.net/PCB_art

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== GPN last weekend of may ==

There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN

People going:
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)
# valka
# s3krit
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# ryd (?)
# miketango
# superQ (?)
# tuxcoder

Brain dump from GPN 31/05/2019 from s3krit

dutch market things -> benches can come from brewing company
Dome would be a more public/central space (that can be used by satellite camps)

# 6x12 tent
# 4x8 kitchen
# 3x6 bakery

We need to order wood, and there is a deadline for CCC for this, which we need to find out

Helpdesk need a 3x3 bar/cool looking area <- also needs an information radiator (could just be a blackboard) for telling people vital information when walking past.

MikeTango has lots of 246x122x12mm plywood/boards with rust paint (I think) - These can be used to build the tower(s)

Logistics seem like the main sticking point - MikeTango's stuff is on the other side of Germany, Essen is the location of the Milliways storage. Getting this stuff from where it is to Camp feels like the largest thing to solve.
"Eurocrates are awesome" - someone

Look on Ebay for circular rotating >1m lichtbox

"Black on black spaceship 3x3m pad illuminated vlack matte black 2.0/3.0 flat windows 2x2m 20 black cheap"
^ Need builders for this, possibly from the Rotterdam hackerspace. Light landing pads, etc would need UV paint (MikeTango knows the stuff to get).

Lasercut milliways stencil in metal to fit a-gobo light

Train (???) - one of the most useful things for this would be getting stuff from the Camp entrance to our village

Sinclair C5 without motors - maybe speak to moving object people about turning this into something useful/cool.

CCC Shuttle from berlin likely starts 2 or so days from the start of camp.

== field day 08 june 2019 ==

There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:

== Mumble ==

[[CCCamp_2019_Mumble]]

CCCamp 2019-orga

2019-07-10T12:28:53Z

Fellmoon: /* water */

CCC Camp 2019 Orga page

== Team ==
* tuxcoder - it
* ninab - food
* mwfc - man with a poke stick
* superq - chef
* miketango - superstar
* Valka - infodesk
* s3krit - buildup / takedown
* mc.fly
* fellmoon - water
* snoopy
* havilland - power + netz

* shibumi

== communication + orga space ==

=== irc channel ===

it would be nice if people from orga would sit in #milliways on irc.hackint.org (ssl!). This is the general milliways irc channel and best way for discussions.
People will talk to you there. :-D

=== milliways mailinglist ===

everyone in orga should be on the milliways mailinglist. Talk to mc.fly if you're not on the list already.

This list is not only orga but the wider milliways mailinglist. Communication that needs to be visible by everyone goes in here.

=== r0cket ===
rocket chat of the CCC, channel #milliways.

This is the main communication channel for the milliways orga. It works on Browser, there is several desktop applications and there are mobile apps for all mobile phone os.
We need something that works on both devices.

This is an invite only channel so you need to be invited by any of the moderators. ask around.

The CCC communication runs over rocket, so basically everyone in orga needs to be in this channel anyway.

=== ticket system ===
we have a gitosis that has a ticket system. Link there:

https://git.milliways.info/mc.fly/camp2019-issues/issues

=== mumble ===

for voice conferences we'll use our mumble server. from a certain point we'll need halffrequent mumble meetings.

== job descriptions ==

=== main person with a poke stick ===

Poke people so they do things. Nicely but also don't give up.

proposal: mwfc

=== secretary ===
We'll need a secretary. Shibumi did this on ccc camp 2015 and that rocked!

This is a "on camp job" but good when on site for the later buildup.

That's the person that will get the milliways dect + gsm, twitter, jabber, irc, rocket - all of the things.
This is the contact person for internal and external communication. You have to store and forward the info to the other people of milliways. You have everyones communication channels and are able to reach out to everyone here.

Also recieves all paperwork for the event so in the end someone else can make some financial overview.

We will get a milliways GSM card (from Miketango?).

=== wiki maintainer ===

maintains the wiki from the content side and makes it usable and nice.

Mostly a job for "before the buildup".

=== it infrastructure admin ===

Management: tuxcoder

sets up and maintains the IT infrastructure so we can work on something. :-)

before camp job.

=== buildup & takedown manager ===
Management: s3krit
* be there early, 16th latestly, 9th would be nice.
* kick people's butt that stuff gets set up and not only weedsmoking.
* have an overview what comes when and goes where.
* be on ground early,
* leave late.

Volunteers here:
* s3krit - teamlead / coordinator
* coderobe
* kgz
* oTTr
* mwfc
* Shadow
* sleepyentropy
* awkwardgoodbyes
* boreq

=== logistics ===
The truck driver.

We need a person with C1E, CE or else - truck driving licence. Can drive a 7.5to truck from the milliways storage (Essen) to the camp site. Also possibly pickup run from the mill and other big pickup runs.

Ideally has driven (small) trucks before and takes over buildup logistics. that'll be some 1Mm (1000km) of distance to drive before and after roughly.

People with Klasse 3, C1E or CE driving licences:

* mc.fly CE
* MikeTango CE
* mlp B

=== social media ===

Someone handling social media and put things there. We will need some hype for us for the coins and all the other things we plan to do.

Possibly a job for a team of 3-5 ppl but we'd need a head of the team that's part of orga.

=== visual media ===
Photographer who can do photo documentation of the whole milliways (and is privacy aware).

Someone good with making videos to have a nice milliways video.

Potential 3D model of milliways (ping awtnmy).

=== power + network ===

the cable guy. Makes sure we have network + power at the places where we need it. Makes sure we have the equipment + connectivity at the places we need.

maybe also handles the milliways-DC (the servers in the benches...)

would also have to keep contact with the power + network teams at ccc

Maybe we can talk Haviland into this :D

Contact C3noc is Niels Bakker

=== water ===
We will have 2 IBCs as buffer 

# drinking water
## we have a hauswasserwerk somewhere > in storage or at pixelbar?
# wastewater
## we probably need an additional pumpt or something to pump wastewater from kitchen into the IBC?

=== kitchen ===

we need here a proper chef to organize the cooking part of the kitchen and a milliways interface for that person to interact with milliways and find milliways type solutions for unique camp problems of a kitchen that big.

=== content ===

if we want to make content we need someone who looks for this. So - what kind of infrastructure do we want to build and what kind of content would we want to offer then.
Also means would be contact to somewhat CCC team there.

CCCamp 2019-orga

2019-07-10T12:28:34Z

Fellmoon: /* water */

CCC Camp 2019 Orga page

== Team ==
* tuxcoder - it
* ninab - food
* mwfc - man with a poke stick
* superq - chef
* miketango - superstar
* Valka - infodesk
* s3krit - buildup / takedown
* mc.fly
* fellmoon - water
* snoopy
* havilland - power + netz

* shibumi

== communication + orga space ==

=== irc channel ===

it would be nice if people from orga would sit in #milliways on irc.hackint.org (ssl!). This is the general milliways irc channel and best way for discussions.
People will talk to you there. :-D

=== milliways mailinglist ===

everyone in orga should be on the milliways mailinglist. Talk to mc.fly if you're not on the list already.

This list is not only orga but the wider milliways mailinglist. Communication that needs to be visible by everyone goes in here.

=== r0cket ===
rocket chat of the CCC, channel #milliways.

This is the main communication channel for the milliways orga. It works on Browser, there is several desktop applications and there are mobile apps for all mobile phone os.
We need something that works on both devices.

This is an invite only channel so you need to be invited by any of the moderators. ask around.

The CCC communication runs over rocket, so basically everyone in orga needs to be in this channel anyway.

=== ticket system ===
we have a gitosis that has a ticket system. Link there:

https://git.milliways.info/mc.fly/camp2019-issues/issues

=== mumble ===

for voice conferences we'll use our mumble server. from a certain point we'll need halffrequent mumble meetings.

== job descriptions ==

=== main person with a poke stick ===

Poke people so they do things. Nicely but also don't give up.

proposal: mwfc

=== secretary ===
We'll need a secretary. Shibumi did this on ccc camp 2015 and that rocked!

This is a "on camp job" but good when on site for the later buildup.

That's the person that will get the milliways dect + gsm, twitter, jabber, irc, rocket - all of the things.
This is the contact person for internal and external communication. You have to store and forward the info to the other people of milliways. You have everyones communication channels and are able to reach out to everyone here.

Also recieves all paperwork for the event so in the end someone else can make some financial overview.

We will get a milliways GSM card (from Miketango?).

=== wiki maintainer ===

maintains the wiki from the content side and makes it usable and nice.

Mostly a job for "before the buildup".

=== it infrastructure admin ===

Management: tuxcoder

sets up and maintains the IT infrastructure so we can work on something. :-)

before camp job.

=== buildup & takedown manager ===
Management: s3krit
* be there early, 16th latestly, 9th would be nice.
* kick people's butt that stuff gets set up and not only weedsmoking.
* have an overview what comes when and goes where.
* be on ground early,
* leave late.

Volunteers here:
* s3krit - teamlead / coordinator
* coderobe
* kgz
* oTTr
* mwfc
* Shadow
* sleepyentropy
* awkwardgoodbyes
* boreq

=== logistics ===
The truck driver.

We need a person with C1E, CE or else - truck driving licence. Can drive a 7.5to truck from the milliways storage (Essen) to the camp site. Also possibly pickup run from the mill and other big pickup runs.

Ideally has driven (small) trucks before and takes over buildup logistics. that'll be some 1Mm (1000km) of distance to drive before and after roughly.

People with Klasse 3, C1E or CE driving licences:

* mc.fly CE
* MikeTango CE
* mlp B

=== social media ===

Someone handling social media and put things there. We will need some hype for us for the coins and all the other things we plan to do.

Possibly a job for a team of 3-5 ppl but we'd need a head of the team that's part of orga.

=== visual media ===
Photographer who can do photo documentation of the whole milliways (and is privacy aware).

Someone good with making videos to have a nice milliways video.

Potential 3D model of milliways (ping awtnmy).

=== power + network ===

the cable guy. Makes sure we have network + power at the places where we need it. Makes sure we have the equipment + connectivity at the places we need.

maybe also handles the milliways-DC (the servers in the benches...)

would also have to keep contact with the power + network teams at ccc

Maybe we can talk Haviland into this :D

Contact C3noc is Niels Bakker

=== water ===
- we will have 2 IBCs as buffer 

# drinking water
## we have a hauswasserwerk somewhere > in storage or at pixelbar?
# wastewater
## we probably need an additional pumpt or something to pump wastewater from kitchen into the IBC?

=== kitchen ===

we need here a proper chef to organize the cooking part of the kitchen and a milliways interface for that person to interact with milliways and find milliways type solutions for unique camp problems of a kitchen that big.

=== content ===

if we want to make content we need someone who looks for this. So - what kind of infrastructure do we want to build and what kind of content would we want to offer then.
Also means would be contact to somewhat CCC team there.

CCCamp 2019-orga

2019-07-10T12:21:37Z

Fellmoon: /* water */

CCC Camp 2019 Orga page

== Team ==
* tuxcoder - it
* ninab - food
* mwfc - man with a poke stick
* superq - chef
* miketango - superstar
* Valka - infodesk
* s3krit - buildup / takedown
* mc.fly
* fellmoon - water
* snoopy
* havilland - power + netz

* shibumi

== communication + orga space ==

=== irc channel ===

it would be nice if people from orga would sit in #milliways on irc.hackint.org (ssl!). This is the general milliways irc channel and best way for discussions.
People will talk to you there. :-D

=== milliways mailinglist ===

everyone in orga should be on the milliways mailinglist. Talk to mc.fly if you're not on the list already.

This list is not only orga but the wider milliways mailinglist. Communication that needs to be visible by everyone goes in here.

=== r0cket ===
rocket chat of the CCC, channel #milliways.

This is the main communication channel for the milliways orga. It works on Browser, there is several desktop applications and there are mobile apps for all mobile phone os.
We need something that works on both devices.

This is an invite only channel so you need to be invited by any of the moderators. ask around.

The CCC communication runs over rocket, so basically everyone in orga needs to be in this channel anyway.

=== ticket system ===
we have a gitosis that has a ticket system. Link there:

https://git.milliways.info/mc.fly/camp2019-issues/issues

=== mumble ===

for voice conferences we'll use our mumble server. from a certain point we'll need halffrequent mumble meetings.

== job descriptions ==

=== main person with a poke stick ===

Poke people so they do things. Nicely but also don't give up.

proposal: mwfc

=== secretary ===
We'll need a secretary. Shibumi did this on ccc camp 2015 and that rocked!

This is a "on camp job" but good when on site for the later buildup.

That's the person that will get the milliways dect + gsm, twitter, jabber, irc, rocket - all of the things.
This is the contact person for internal and external communication. You have to store and forward the info to the other people of milliways. You have everyones communication channels and are able to reach out to everyone here.

Also recieves all paperwork for the event so in the end someone else can make some financial overview.

We will get a milliways GSM card (from Miketango?).

=== wiki maintainer ===

maintains the wiki from the content side and makes it usable and nice.

Mostly a job for "before the buildup".

=== it infrastructure admin ===

Management: tuxcoder

sets up and maintains the IT infrastructure so we can work on something. :-)

before camp job.

=== buildup & takedown manager ===
Management: s3krit
* be there early, 16th latestly, 9th would be nice.
* kick people's butt that stuff gets set up and not only weedsmoking.
* have an overview what comes when and goes where.
* be on ground early,
* leave late.

Volunteers here:
* s3krit - teamlead / coordinator
* coderobe
* kgz
* oTTr
* mwfc
* Shadow
* sleepyentropy
* awkwardgoodbyes
* boreq

=== logistics ===
The truck driver.

We need a person with C1E, CE or else - truck driving licence. Can drive a 7.5to truck from the milliways storage (Essen) to the camp site. Also possibly pickup run from the mill and other big pickup runs.

Ideally has driven (small) trucks before and takes over buildup logistics. that'll be some 1Mm (1000km) of distance to drive before and after roughly.

People with Klasse 3, C1E or CE driving licences:

* mc.fly CE
* MikeTango CE
* mlp B

=== social media ===

Someone handling social media and put things there. We will need some hype for us for the coins and all the other things we plan to do.

Possibly a job for a team of 3-5 ppl but we'd need a head of the team that's part of orga.

=== visual media ===
Photographer who can do photo documentation of the whole milliways (and is privacy aware).

Someone good with making videos to have a nice milliways video.

Potential 3D model of milliways (ping awtnmy).

=== power + network ===

the cable guy. Makes sure we have network + power at the places where we need it. Makes sure we have the equipment + connectivity at the places we need.

maybe also handles the milliways-DC (the servers in the benches...)

would also have to keep contact with the power + network teams at ccc

Maybe we can talk Haviland into this :D

Contact C3noc is Niels Bakker

=== water ===
- we will have 2 IBCs as buffer,
1. drinking water
1.1. we have a hauswasserwerk somewhere > in storage or at pixelbar?
2. wastewater
2.1. we probably need an additional pumpt or something to pump wastewater from kitchen into the IBC?

=== kitchen ===

we need here a proper chef to organize the cooking part of the kitchen and a milliways interface for that person to interact with milliways and find milliways type solutions for unique camp problems of a kitchen that big.

=== content ===

if we want to make content we need someone who looks for this. So - what kind of infrastructure do we want to build and what kind of content would we want to offer then.
Also means would be contact to somewhat CCC team there.

CCCamp 2019-orga

2019-07-10T12:18:47Z

Fellmoon: /* Team */

CCC Camp 2019 Orga page

== Team ==
* tuxcoder - it
* ninab - food
* mwfc - man with a poke stick
* superq - chef
* miketango - superstar
* Valka - infodesk
* s3krit - buildup / takedown
* mc.fly
* fellmoon - water
* snoopy
* havilland - power + netz

* shibumi

== communication + orga space ==

=== irc channel ===

it would be nice if people from orga would sit in #milliways on irc.hackint.org (ssl!). This is the general milliways irc channel and best way for discussions.
People will talk to you there. :-D

=== milliways mailinglist ===

everyone in orga should be on the milliways mailinglist. Talk to mc.fly if you're not on the list already.

This list is not only orga but the wider milliways mailinglist. Communication that needs to be visible by everyone goes in here.

=== r0cket ===
rocket chat of the CCC, channel #milliways.

This is the main communication channel for the milliways orga. It works on Browser, there is several desktop applications and there are mobile apps for all mobile phone os.
We need something that works on both devices.

This is an invite only channel so you need to be invited by any of the moderators. ask around.

The CCC communication runs over rocket, so basically everyone in orga needs to be in this channel anyway.

=== ticket system ===
we have a gitosis that has a ticket system. Link there:

https://git.milliways.info/mc.fly/camp2019-issues/issues

=== mumble ===

for voice conferences we'll use our mumble server. from a certain point we'll need halffrequent mumble meetings.

== job descriptions ==

=== main person with a poke stick ===

Poke people so they do things. Nicely but also don't give up.

proposal: mwfc

=== secretary ===
We'll need a secretary. Shibumi did this on ccc camp 2015 and that rocked!

This is a "on camp job" but good when on site for the later buildup.

That's the person that will get the milliways dect + gsm, twitter, jabber, irc, rocket - all of the things.
This is the contact person for internal and external communication. You have to store and forward the info to the other people of milliways. You have everyones communication channels and are able to reach out to everyone here.

Also recieves all paperwork for the event so in the end someone else can make some financial overview.

We will get a milliways GSM card (from Miketango?).

=== wiki maintainer ===

maintains the wiki from the content side and makes it usable and nice.

Mostly a job for "before the buildup".

=== it infrastructure admin ===

Management: tuxcoder

sets up and maintains the IT infrastructure so we can work on something. :-)

before camp job.

=== buildup & takedown manager ===
Management: s3krit
* be there early, 16th latestly, 9th would be nice.
* kick people's butt that stuff gets set up and not only weedsmoking.
* have an overview what comes when and goes where.
* be on ground early,
* leave late.

Volunteers here:
* s3krit - teamlead / coordinator
* coderobe
* kgz
* oTTr
* mwfc
* Shadow
* sleepyentropy
* awkwardgoodbyes
* boreq

=== logistics ===
The truck driver.

We need a person with C1E, CE or else - truck driving licence. Can drive a 7.5to truck from the milliways storage (Essen) to the camp site. Also possibly pickup run from the mill and other big pickup runs.

Ideally has driven (small) trucks before and takes over buildup logistics. that'll be some 1Mm (1000km) of distance to drive before and after roughly.

People with Klasse 3, C1E or CE driving licences:

* mc.fly CE
* MikeTango CE
* mlp B

=== social media ===

Someone handling social media and put things there. We will need some hype for us for the coins and all the other things we plan to do.

Possibly a job for a team of 3-5 ppl but we'd need a head of the team that's part of orga.

=== visual media ===
Photographer who can do photo documentation of the whole milliways (and is privacy aware).

Someone good with making videos to have a nice milliways video.

Potential 3D model of milliways (ping awtnmy).

=== power + network ===

the cable guy. Makes sure we have network + power at the places where we need it. Makes sure we have the equipment + connectivity at the places we need.

maybe also handles the milliways-DC (the servers in the benches...)

would also have to keep contact with the power + network teams at ccc

Maybe we can talk Haviland into this :D

Contact C3noc is Niels Bakker

=== water ===

we will have to handle freshwater and waste water, mostly for the kitchen. This is a planning + buildup job.

=== kitchen ===

we need here a proper chef to organize the cooking part of the kitchen and a milliways interface for that person to interact with milliways and find milliways type solutions for unique camp problems of a kitchen that big.

=== content ===

if we want to make content we need someone who looks for this. So - what kind of infrastructure do we want to build and what kind of content would we want to offer then.
Also means would be contact to somewhat CCC team there.

CCCamp 2019-kitchen

2019-07-07T20:33:50Z

Fellmoon: /* Coffee */

= team =

= infrastructure =

== tent ==

the big kitchen tent that we have is big enough.

== water ==

Critical

Water with the housewasserwerk worked fine but needs to be prepared

water required by
* konvektomat
* dishwasher
* coffee machine

we need the right piping here. (negative pressure, food safe)

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B2JQT4O

== wastewater ==

Critical

we ruined the pump. https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00B18KAEG

solution from pixelbar?

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00CV25DVG/ fitting for the pump.

check adapter!

== cooling ==
10m2 is more than enough (shelving?)

We will need a cooling trailer. Estimate

Share a food trailer with Geraffel?

chest-freezer is at pixelbar.

A standard home fridge, or drink fridge, would be useful for quick-access items.

= equipment =

== Large Equipment ==

=== Propane Situation in Germany ===

In Germany you can usually get Propane in a hardware store.
There are 2 systems:

- Gray bottles: you buy the bottle and can exchange for a full one (usually you won't get it filled). They are called "Eigentumsflaschen" or "Nutzungsflasche".

- Red bottles for which you pay deposit and can hand them in if you don't need them anymore. They are called "Pfandflaschen"

Red bottles are preferable as even the deposit is less than price of a gray bottle.

Common sizes and valves:

- 5kg, 11kg: valve EN 15202 G12, W 21,8 x 1/14 LH

- 33kg: valve EN 15202 G4, W 21,8 x 1/14 LH

Possible source on preorder: https://www.obi.de/gas/propanfuellung-33-kg-fuer-pfandflasche/p/1593656

=== Gas deep fryer ===

location pixelbar

=== smoker ===

Smoker is in the midlands of england
Need somebody to take the trailer from there

=== gas griddle plate ===

There is one griddle plate in good condition, one as spare parts

A second griddle is currently on the amazon wishlist.

=== marie bain ===

electric

location pixelbar

second one?

=== gas cookers ===

1 hockerkocher, 2 low ones

pixelbar

mostly boiling water & etc (pasta)

=== konvektomat ===

6GN should be enough (~10kw)

Currently working to purchase a 10GN Gas powered unit.

=== gas grills ===

we just bought a new gas grill. maybe 2 more of them?

=== dishwasher ===

get the milliways dishwasher to work again.

additional rincing station

=== shelving ===

location pixelbar.

5 black plastic shelves

while cooking directly fitting for GN trays:

https://www.ajstuarts.com/shop/view/10367/gastro-trolley-ssteel-11-20-shelves

http://www.tournus.com/en/rayonnage-clayettes/

=== tables ===

4 steel prep tables at pixelbar.

confirm the existence of the the black connectors - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0711DZN7R

4-6 additional tables would be useful for prep space and serving.

== small equipment ==

SuperQ has:
* Food processor
* Kitchen mixer
* Induction plate
* Espresso machine

Need to source
* Coffee grinder

= Food Sources =

== Beer ==

https://www.google.nl/maps/dir/52.8581427,13.1787976//@52.8582642,13.1786702,59m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e0

== Butcher / Schlachterei ==

http://www.landfleischerei-peter-mueller.de/

== Coffee ==

FRIEDL Rösterei - Pappelallee 35, 10437 Berlin

(5kg canister, reasonable price)

Coffee unlimited / Maya Kaffeerösterei

various sorts of nice coffee

https://www.coffee-unlimited.de/die-roesterei/kaffee/

Hammerbrookstraße 75, 20097 Hamburg

(price depends on coffee, will edit them here soon)
tend to bring 2kg hammerbrooklyn coffee

== wochenmarkt ==

Tuesday, Thursday
https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/markt/wochenmarkt-zehdenick-1742/

wednesdays:
https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/markt/wochenmarkt-marktplatz-loewenberg-1042/

== Farmer, eggs + milk ==

Milk, Eggs: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/regiomat-agrar-gmbh-kraatz-16575/

Milk, Eggs: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/regiomat-loewenberger-land-16839/

multiple: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/gut-boltenhof-3515/

Milk: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/glambecker-rinderhof-gmbh-3418/

== Imker ==

https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/glaeserne-waldimkerei-bienenklaus-5114/

= Menu =

See [[CCCamp_2019-kitchen-menu|menu main page]]

CCCamp 2019-kitchen

2019-07-07T19:38:56Z

Fellmoon: /* Coffee */

= team =

= infrastructure =

== tent ==

the big kitchen tent that we have is big enough.

== water ==

Critical

Water with the housewasserwerk worked fine but needs to be prepared

water required by
* konvektomat
* dishwasher
* coffee machine

we need the right piping here. (negative pressure, food safe)

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B2JQT4O

== wastewater ==

Critical

we ruined the pump. https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00B18KAEG

solution from pixelbar?

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00CV25DVG/ fitting for the pump.

check adapter!

== cooling ==
10m2 is more than enough (shelving?)

We will need a cooling trailer. Estimate

Share a food trailer with Geraffel?

chest-freezer is at pixelbar.

A standard home fridge, or drink fridge, would be useful for quick-access items.

= equipment =

== Large Equipment ==

=== Propane Situation in Germany ===

In Germany you can usually get Propane in a hardware store.
There are 2 systems:

- Gray bottles: you buy the bottle and can exchange for a full one (usually you won't get it filled). They are called "Eigentumsflaschen" or "Nutzungsflasche".

- Red bottles for which you pay deposit and can hand them in if you don't need them anymore. They are called "Pfandflaschen"

Red bottles are preferable as even the deposit is less than price of a gray bottle.

Common sizes and valves:

- 5kg, 11kg: valve EN 15202 G12, W 21,8 x 1/14 LH

- 33kg: valve EN 15202 G4, W 21,8 x 1/14 LH

Possible source on preorder: https://www.obi.de/gas/propanfuellung-33-kg-fuer-pfandflasche/p/1593656

=== Gas deep fryer ===

location pixelbar

=== smoker ===

Smoker is in the midlands of england
Need somebody to take the trailer from there

=== gas griddle plate ===

There is one griddle plate in good condition, one as spare parts

A second griddle is currently on the amazon wishlist.

=== marie bain ===

electric

location pixelbar

second one?

=== gas cookers ===

1 hockerkocher, 2 low ones

pixelbar

mostly boiling water & etc (pasta)

=== konvektomat ===

6GN should be enough (~10kw)

Currently working to purchase a 10GN Gas powered unit.

=== gas grills ===

we just bought a new gas grill. maybe 2 more of them?

=== dishwasher ===

get the milliways dishwasher to work again.

additional rincing station

=== shelving ===

location pixelbar.

5 black plastic shelves

while cooking directly fitting for GN trays:

https://www.ajstuarts.com/shop/view/10367/gastro-trolley-ssteel-11-20-shelves

http://www.tournus.com/en/rayonnage-clayettes/

=== tables ===

4 steel prep tables at pixelbar.

confirm the existence of the the black connectors - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0711DZN7R

4-6 additional tables would be useful for prep space and serving.

== small equipment ==

SuperQ has:
* Food processor
* Kitchen mixer
* Induction plate
* Espresso machine

Need to source
* Coffee grinder

= Food Sources =

== Beer ==

https://www.google.nl/maps/dir/52.8581427,13.1787976//@52.8582642,13.1786702,59m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e0

== Butcher / Schlachterei ==

http://www.landfleischerei-peter-mueller.de/

== Coffee ==

FRIEDL Rösterei - Pappelallee 35, 10437 Berlin

(5kg canister, reasonable price)

Coffee unlimited / Maya Kaffeerösterei
various nice coffee's
https://www.coffee-unlimited.de/die-roesterei/kaffee/
Hammerbrookstraße 75, 20097 Hamburg
(price depends on coffee, will edit them here soon)
tend to bring 2kg hammerbrooklyn coffee

== wochenmarkt ==

Tuesday, Thursday
https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/markt/wochenmarkt-zehdenick-1742/

wednesdays:
https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/markt/wochenmarkt-marktplatz-loewenberg-1042/

== Farmer, eggs + milk ==

Milk, Eggs: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/regiomat-agrar-gmbh-kraatz-16575/

Milk, Eggs: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/regiomat-loewenberger-land-16839/

multiple: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/gut-boltenhof-3515/

Milk: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/glambecker-rinderhof-gmbh-3418/

== Imker ==

https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/glaeserne-waldimkerei-bienenklaus-5114/

= Menu =

See [[CCCamp_2019-kitchen-menu|menu main page]]

CCCamp 2019-kitchen

2019-07-07T19:38:40Z

Fellmoon: /* Coffee */

= team =

= infrastructure =

== tent ==

the big kitchen tent that we have is big enough.

== water ==

Critical

Water with the housewasserwerk worked fine but needs to be prepared

water required by
* konvektomat
* dishwasher
* coffee machine

we need the right piping here. (negative pressure, food safe)

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B2JQT4O

== wastewater ==

Critical

we ruined the pump. https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00B18KAEG

solution from pixelbar?

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00CV25DVG/ fitting for the pump.

check adapter!

== cooling ==
10m2 is more than enough (shelving?)

We will need a cooling trailer. Estimate

Share a food trailer with Geraffel?

chest-freezer is at pixelbar.

A standard home fridge, or drink fridge, would be useful for quick-access items.

= equipment =

== Large Equipment ==

=== Propane Situation in Germany ===

In Germany you can usually get Propane in a hardware store.
There are 2 systems:

- Gray bottles: you buy the bottle and can exchange for a full one (usually you won't get it filled). They are called "Eigentumsflaschen" or "Nutzungsflasche".

- Red bottles for which you pay deposit and can hand them in if you don't need them anymore. They are called "Pfandflaschen"

Red bottles are preferable as even the deposit is less than price of a gray bottle.

Common sizes and valves:

- 5kg, 11kg: valve EN 15202 G12, W 21,8 x 1/14 LH

- 33kg: valve EN 15202 G4, W 21,8 x 1/14 LH

Possible source on preorder: https://www.obi.de/gas/propanfuellung-33-kg-fuer-pfandflasche/p/1593656

=== Gas deep fryer ===

location pixelbar

=== smoker ===

Smoker is in the midlands of england
Need somebody to take the trailer from there

=== gas griddle plate ===

There is one griddle plate in good condition, one as spare parts

A second griddle is currently on the amazon wishlist.

=== marie bain ===

electric

location pixelbar

second one?

=== gas cookers ===

1 hockerkocher, 2 low ones

pixelbar

mostly boiling water & etc (pasta)

=== konvektomat ===

6GN should be enough (~10kw)

Currently working to purchase a 10GN Gas powered unit.

=== gas grills ===

we just bought a new gas grill. maybe 2 more of them?

=== dishwasher ===

get the milliways dishwasher to work again.

additional rincing station

=== shelving ===

location pixelbar.

5 black plastic shelves

while cooking directly fitting for GN trays:

https://www.ajstuarts.com/shop/view/10367/gastro-trolley-ssteel-11-20-shelves

http://www.tournus.com/en/rayonnage-clayettes/

=== tables ===

4 steel prep tables at pixelbar.

confirm the existence of the the black connectors - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0711DZN7R

4-6 additional tables would be useful for prep space and serving.

== small equipment ==

SuperQ has:
* Food processor
* Kitchen mixer
* Induction plate
* Espresso machine

Need to source
* Coffee grinder

= Food Sources =

== Beer ==

https://www.google.nl/maps/dir/52.8581427,13.1787976//@52.8582642,13.1786702,59m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e0

== Butcher / Schlachterei ==

http://www.landfleischerei-peter-mueller.de/

== Coffee ==

FRIEDL Rösterei - Pappelallee 35, 10437 Berlin

(5kg canister, reasonable price)

Coffee unlimited / Maya Kaffeerösterei
various nice coffee's
https://www.coffee-unlimited.de/die-roesterei/kaffee/
Hammerbrookstraße 75, 20097 Hamburg
(price depends on coffee, will edit them here soon)
tend to bring 2kg hammerbrooklyn coffee

== wochenmarkt ==

Tuesday, Thursday
https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/markt/wochenmarkt-zehdenick-1742/

wednesdays:
https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/markt/wochenmarkt-marktplatz-loewenberg-1042/

== Farmer, eggs + milk ==

Milk, Eggs: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/regiomat-agrar-gmbh-kraatz-16575/

Milk, Eggs: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/regiomat-loewenberger-land-16839/

multiple: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/gut-boltenhof-3515/

Milk: https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/glambecker-rinderhof-gmbh-3418/

== Imker ==

https://www.mein-bauernhof.de/verkaufstelle/glaeserne-waldimkerei-bienenklaus-5114/

= Menu =

See [[CCCamp_2019-kitchen-menu|menu main page]]

CCCamp 2019-buildup

2019-06-19T20:50:10Z

Fellmoon: /* Tool requirements */

If you would like to help out with buildup and teardown, please contact s3krit in IRC or Rocket Chat. Will need lots of help. Especially if you are a specialist such as:
* Woodworking
* Electronics (mainly blinken)

Also add yourself [[CCCamp_2019-orga#buildup_.26_takedown_manager|here]].

== need Lists ==
=== Renting list ===

Preise / Bestellmöglichkeit für Tische, Stühle und Großzelte wird es geben, rechne nicht vor KW21 damit...

=== Shopping list ===

Blinken
* 20 metre White LED Strips
* 10 metre RGB LED Strips (addressable or no?)
* 10 metre Red LED Strips

Construction materials
* Wood to cover floor for Kitchen and Bakery tents at the very least
* LOTS of hot glue (for waterproofing electronics)
* Wood attachment hardware (bolts, long and short screws, etc)

=== Tool requirements ===

Stick your name next to any of these if you are able to provide them

* Power drills - coderobe, fellmoon 2x (1x battery 1x cable)
* Circular saws - coderobe
* Router/"oberfraese"
* Hot glue guns - fellmoon 1x

coderobe: give me a heads-up ahead of time, won't pack them if not needed

fellmoon "can bring if needed":
* jigsaw
* orbital sander
* wrench set
* ratchet + various (normal) nuts
* angle grinder

== structures ==
=== milliways Dome ===
* milliways stage (self organized sessions)
* requires power
** 230V 16A + power plugs

=== toorcamp Dome ===
* copy of the milliways dome
* requires power
** 230V 16A + power plugs

=== Bakery tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires floor
* requires power
** 2 x 230V 16A,
** 400V 16A
* requires water

=== Kitchen tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires floor
* requires power
** 230V,
** 400V
* requires water
* requires wastewater

=== Hackcenter tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires power,
** 230V 16A
* requires network

=== HoBo tents ===
* 2-3, max 5
* require power
** shared 230V 16A

=== Big russian army tent ===
* size
* requirements?

=== kitchenshed ===
replaces kitchen tent if build for the kitchen, so we use the kitchen tent as another hackcenter tent
therefore:
* requires floor
* requires power
** 230V,
** 400V
* requires water
* requires wastewater

=== Large black-on-black spaceship ===

this is Art, don't throw it away

with a red LED landing pad and blacklit base (see [[CCCamp_2019#crazy_ideas|Crazy Ideas]])

=== Infodesk ===

the milliways infodesk needs a place to operate.
* requires power
** 230V 16A
* requires network

== calendar ==
=== buildup ===

* -11 Fr 9 August
** Milestones: LKW leaves Storage Essen
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -10 Sa 10 August
** Milestones: LKW from Storage Essen on site, at least one Tent up so we can store the stuff from the storage.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -9 So 11 August
** Milestones: LKW back to Essen
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -8 Mo 12 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc

* -7 Di 13 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, s3krit, valka

* -6 Mi 14 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, s3krit, valka

* -5 Do 15 August
** Milestones: Dome Up
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, Shadow

* -4 Fr 16 August
** Milestones: intermediate Kitchen up and running, Expect Arrival of most volunteers
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow

* -3 Sa 17 August
** Milestones: All big buildings up
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* -2 So 18 August
** Milestones: Full kitchen is running.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

=== pre-camp ===
* -1 Mo 19 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, firel0x, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* 0 - Di 20 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, firel0x, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

=== camp ===
* 1 - Mi 21 August
** Milestones: milliways completely up and running
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 2 - Do 22 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 3 - Fr 23 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 4 - Sa 24 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 5 - So 25 August
** Milestones: Big cleanup / degarbage / takedown of not needed infrastructure begins
** commited volunteers:
** events:

=== takedown ===
* +1 - Mo 26 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, haegar
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* +2 - Di 27 August
** Milestones: LKW to Essen leaves in the evening.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow, haegar
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* +3 - Mi 28 August
** Milestone: Unloading LKW in essen, driving back to Berlin.
** Milestone: Milliways site clean
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

CCCamp 2019-buildup

2019-06-19T15:30:53Z

Fellmoon: /* Tool requirements */

If you would like to help out with buildup and teardown, please contact s3krit in IRC or Rocket Chat. Will need lots of help. Especially if you are a specialist such as:
* Woodworking
* Electronics (mainly blinken)

Also add yourself [[CCCamp_2019-orga#buildup_.26_takedown_manager|here]].

== need Lists ==
=== Renting list ===

Preise / Bestellmöglichkeit für Tische, Stühle und Großzelte wird es geben, rechne nicht vor KW21 damit...

=== Shopping list ===

Blinken
* 20 metre White LED Strips
* 10 metre RGB LED Strips (addressable or no?)
* 10 metre Red LED Strips

Construction materials
* Wood to cover floor for Kitchen and Bakery tents at the very least
* LOTS of hot glue (for waterproofing electronics)
* Wood attachment hardware (bolts, long and short screws, etc)

=== Tool requirements ===

Stick your name next to any of these if you are able to provide them

* Power drills - coderobe, fellmoon 2x
* Circular saws - coderobe
* Router/"oberfraese"
* Hot glue guns - fellmoon 1x

coderobe: give me a heads-up ahead of time, won't pack them if not needed

fellmoon "can bring if needed":
* jigsaw
* orbital sander
* wrench set
* ratchet + various (normal) nuts
* angle grinder

== structures ==
=== milliways Dome ===
* milliways stage (self organized sessions)
* requires power
** 230V 16A + power plugs

=== toorcamp Dome ===
* copy of the milliways dome
* requires power
** 230V 16A + power plugs

=== Bakery tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires floor
* requires power
** 2 x 230V 16A,
** 400V 16A
* requires water

=== Kitchen tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires floor
* requires power
** 230V,
** 400V
* requires water
* requires wastewater

=== Hackcenter tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires power,
** 230V 16A
* requires network

=== HoBo tents ===
* 2-3, max 5
* require power
** shared 230V 16A

=== Big russian army tent ===
* size
* requirements?

=== kitchenshed ===
replaces kitchen tent if build for the kitchen, so we use the kitchen tent as another hackcenter tent
therefore:
* requires floor
* requires power
** 230V,
** 400V
* requires water
* requires wastewater

=== Large black-on-black spaceship ===

this is Art, don't throw it away

with a red LED landing pad and blacklit base (see [[CCCamp_2019#crazy_ideas|Crazy Ideas]])

=== Infodesk ===

the milliways infodesk needs a place to operate.
* requires power
** 230V 16A
* requires network

== calendar ==
=== buildup ===

* -11 Fr 9 August
** Milestones: LKW leaves Storage Essen
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -10 Sa 10 August
** Milestones: LKW from Storage Essen on site, at least one Tent up so we can store the stuff from the storage.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -9 So 11 August
** Milestones: LKW back to Essen
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -8 Mo 12 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc

* -7 Di 13 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, s3krit, valka

* -6 Mi 14 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, s3krit, valka

* -5 Do 15 August
** Milestones: Dome Up
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, Shadow

* -4 Fr 16 August
** Milestones: intermediate Kitchen up and running, Expect Arrival of most volunteers
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow

* -3 Sa 17 August
** Milestones: All big buildings up
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* -2 So 18 August
** Milestones: Full kitchen is running.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

=== pre-camp ===
* -1 Mo 19 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, firel0x, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* 0 - Di 20 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, firel0x, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

=== camp ===
* 1 - Mi 21 August
** Milestones: milliways completely up and running
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 2 - Do 22 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 3 - Fr 23 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 4 - Sa 24 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 5 - So 25 August
** Milestones: Big cleanup / degarbage / takedown of not needed infrastructure begins
** commited volunteers:
** events:

=== takedown ===
* +1 - Mo 26 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, haegar
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* +2 - Di 27 August
** Milestones: LKW to Essen leaves in the evening.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow, haegar
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* +3 - Mi 28 August
** Milestone: Unloading LKW in essen, driving back to Berlin.
** Milestone: Milliways site clean
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

CCCamp 2019-buildup

2019-06-19T15:30:25Z

Fellmoon: /* Tool requirements */

If you would like to help out with buildup and teardown, please contact s3krit in IRC or Rocket Chat. Will need lots of help. Especially if you are a specialist such as:
* Woodworking
* Electronics (mainly blinken)

Also add yourself [[CCCamp_2019-orga#buildup_.26_takedown_manager|here]].

== need Lists ==
=== Renting list ===

Preise / Bestellmöglichkeit für Tische, Stühle und Großzelte wird es geben, rechne nicht vor KW21 damit...

=== Shopping list ===

Blinken
* 20 metre White LED Strips
* 10 metre RGB LED Strips (addressable or no?)
* 10 metre Red LED Strips

Construction materials
* Wood to cover floor for Kitchen and Bakery tents at the very least
* LOTS of hot glue (for waterproofing electronics)
* Wood attachment hardware (bolts, long and short screws, etc)

=== Tool requirements ===

Stick your name next to any of these if you are able to provide them

* Power drills - coderobe, fellmoon 2x
* Circular saws - coderobe
* Router/"oberfraese"
* Hot glue guns - fellmoon 1x

coderobe: give me a heads-up ahead of time, won't pack them if not needed

fellmoon "can bring if needed":
- jigsaw
- orbital sander
- wrench set
- ratchet + various (normal) nuts
- angle grinder

== structures ==
=== milliways Dome ===
* milliways stage (self organized sessions)
* requires power
** 230V 16A + power plugs

=== toorcamp Dome ===
* copy of the milliways dome
* requires power
** 230V 16A + power plugs

=== Bakery tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires floor
* requires power
** 2 x 230V 16A,
** 400V 16A
* requires water

=== Kitchen tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires floor
* requires power
** 230V,
** 400V
* requires water
* requires wastewater

=== Hackcenter tent ===
* 4x8m
* requires power,
** 230V 16A
* requires network

=== HoBo tents ===
* 2-3, max 5
* require power
** shared 230V 16A

=== Big russian army tent ===
* size
* requirements?

=== kitchenshed ===
replaces kitchen tent if build for the kitchen, so we use the kitchen tent as another hackcenter tent
therefore:
* requires floor
* requires power
** 230V,
** 400V
* requires water
* requires wastewater

=== Large black-on-black spaceship ===

this is Art, don't throw it away

with a red LED landing pad and blacklit base (see [[CCCamp_2019#crazy_ideas|Crazy Ideas]])

=== Infodesk ===

the milliways infodesk needs a place to operate.
* requires power
** 230V 16A
* requires network

== calendar ==
=== buildup ===

* -11 Fr 9 August
** Milestones: LKW leaves Storage Essen
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -10 Sa 10 August
** Milestones: LKW from Storage Essen on site, at least one Tent up so we can store the stuff from the storage.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -9 So 11 August
** Milestones: LKW back to Essen
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc

* -8 Mo 12 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc

* -7 Di 13 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, s3krit, valka

* -6 Mi 14 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, s3krit, valka

* -5 Do 15 August
** Milestones: Dome Up
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, Shadow

* -4 Fr 16 August
** Milestones: intermediate Kitchen up and running, Expect Arrival of most volunteers
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow

* -3 Sa 17 August
** Milestones: All big buildings up
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* -2 So 18 August
** Milestones: Full kitchen is running.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, coderobe, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

=== pre-camp ===
* -1 Mo 19 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, firel0x, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* 0 - Di 20 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mwfc, oTTr, s3krit, valka, kgz, firel0x, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

=== camp ===
* 1 - Mi 21 August
** Milestones: milliways completely up and running
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 2 - Do 22 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 3 - Fr 23 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 4 - Sa 24 August
** commited volunteers:
** events:

* 5 - So 25 August
** Milestones: Big cleanup / degarbage / takedown of not needed infrastructure begins
** commited volunteers:
** events:

=== takedown ===
* +1 - Mo 26 August
** Milestones:
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow, sleepyentropy, awkwardgoodbyes, haegar
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* +2 - Di 27 August
** Milestones: LKW to Essen leaves in the evening.
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow, haegar
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

* +3 - Mi 28 August
** Milestone: Unloading LKW in essen, driving back to Berlin.
** Milestone: Milliways site clean
** commited volunteers: mc.fly, firel0x, Shadow
** events: 10:00 milliways volunteer meeting of the day

CCCamp 2019

2019-05-27T13:24:57Z

Fellmoon: /* Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-participants|Participant page]]

The above list contains the people with tickets and a need for a voucher. The old voucher wish list has moved here.

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== beer wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-beer-list|The beer wish list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== Buildup/Teardown ==

[[CCCamp_2019-buildup|Buildup/teardown page]]

== Infodesk ==

the secretary might evolve into a infodesk team

[[CCCamp_2019-infodesk|milliways infodesk page]]

== power + network ==

[[CCCamp_2019-power-net|Power + Network page]]

== [[CCCamp_2019-card10 | card10-badge integration]] ==

A message from future was decoded which gave information. There will have been a badge at camp which gets reverse engineered as we speak to not break the time continuum. We will have had integration at milliways with it, which is still to be reconstructed.

coderobe is looking into this

== Subvillages ==

=== scottish embassy? ===

=== toorcamp ===

=== Sigsegv ===

=== Freeside ===

== crazy ideas ==

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

no benches

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.

#letsdoit

=== Metallic Starship ===

Idea: Felipe Sanches

The design of the iconic CCC rocket looks very similar to the upcoming SpaceX Starship (the payload portion of the Big "Falcon" Rocket). It would be extremely cool to build the 2019 edition of the CCC rocket in shiny silver material.

* CCC Rocket: https://i.imgur.com/yqL4X8p.jpg
* SpaceX Starship: https://www.space.com/images/i/000/082/045/original/spacex-starship-hopper.jpg

'''Note:''' OK... it is not identical! The CCC rocket is more curvy / cartoonish. But the SpaceX Starship is significantly different from the typical rocket designs in the sense that it lands on its own "tails/wings" just like we've seen in cartoons in the past (like the Tin-tin rocket!)

* Tin-tin rocket: https://www.givethedogabone.co.uk/images/_lib//16-the-adventures-of-tintin-destination-moon-3006028-0-1375877530000.jpg

# sounds awesome but is it realistic? Till gpn we need an idea there.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

#letsdoit

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

still lets see if we can get something together there.

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

'''This bad taste of a "joke" goes against CCC's principle of "Be excellent to each other". Highly discouraged.
'''

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

See turning sign above.

We need 2 more classical milliways signs and 4 that are one sided.

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

nice one, we should do that. also involve superQ

Maybe nice idea to combine with (a) dutch market stand(s), another option would be to build a little shelter out of OSB wood and Tarp. Preferable reusable construction.

willing to do/build:
- Fellmoon

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful

Support:
*Panda
*AnonymousVideo
https://www.anonymous-france.eu/ccc-project-for-imprisoned-anons.html
*FreeAnons
https://www.freeanons.org

=== Camping plates with Milliways logo (and Camp motto/year) ===
Idea: McFly, nina

allbranded.at has a relatively cheap offer and could deliver within 3 weeks!

We could use them for the kitchen and/or "sell" them for a little sponsoring money.

link: https://www.allbranded.at/Bar-Gastronomie/Geschirr/Teller-Barbecue.html

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== GPN last weekend of may ==

There will be a couple of folks at GPN for discussions. Several deadlines are set to GPN

People going:
# mwfc (Saturday/Sunday)
# valka
# s3krit
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# ryd (?)
# miketango
# superQ (?)
# tuxcoder

== field day 08 june 2019 ==

There is a field day at 08 june 2019 : 1300 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:

Camp2019-t-shirt

2019-05-25T19:14:46Z

Fellmoon: /* List of interested people */

== intro ==
we often tried, we never really did that. But i think it would be nice
to have some milliways tshirts.

So i have just talked to freddruck and we came to the conclusion that
we will make something with the milliways logo on the left chest and
optionally the nick below it. And maybe something for the back.
Supporter, team, chef - or a nice design.

We will then add 10 eur on the price as donation to milliways and
he'll put it in his shop and we can all buy there and get it shipped
directly.

How many would we need? Who would be interested? I want all the "yes"
or "here, immedeately" to be able to count them. The estimated number
of tshirts has clearly an influence on the price. Decision time is 14
of May. :-D

This is just a count, so i need the number of tshirts, not the size.

The t-shirt being used will be
* https://shop.freddruck.de/Sortiment/Basic-T-Shirts/Rundhals/Round-T-Heavy.html and
* https://shop.freddruck.de/Sortiment/Basic-T-Shirts/Rundhals/Ladies-Basic-T.html

== List of interested people ==

* mc.fly 3
* cookingroffa 2
* coderobe
* valka
* willscott
* tj
* oTTr
* [[ZaphodB]] 3
* Cobolt
* Haegar
* carton 2
* malaclypse 4
* Hackfoo 2 (Woman S, Men XL) -plus a 2XL Hoddie??!?
* gramels 2 & hoodie
* w1bble 2
* suqdiq 4 (2 M, 2 S , S ones should have different name cause its for my kids, also want 4 hoodies if they gonna exist)
* Aphrodite (WA/BC)
* Rob MacKinnon (WA/BC)
* Pilosov 2
* hibby
* daravinne 2
* pidgey 2
* digihash 1
* fellmoon 1 (also interested in hoodie with large milliways sign as backprint)
* snoopy 1
* Matt T (1 M)
* sleepyentropy 2 (Fitted: L, 'Unisex' M - hoodie would be nice if that's a thing eyes emoji)
* awkwardgoodbyes 2 (Fitted: L, 'Unisex' M - hoodie would be nice if that's a thing eyes emoji)
* QuantumCypher - 'Fitted: L, 'Unisex' M - hoodie

CCCamp2019-participants

2019-05-24T09:27:12Z

Fellmoon: /* has a voucher */

this is the queue for vouchers for the Chaos Communication Camp 2019

== the ticket situation for camp 2019 ==

https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2019/camp-zelte
"Eintrittskarten für das Camp gibt es ausschließlich mit Vouchern, die im nächstgelegenen Hackerspace bereitgehalten werden. Chaosnahe Gruppen und Spaces, die Voucher verteilen wollen und bisher nicht berücksichtigt wurden, sollten sich direkt und schnell bei camp2019-tickets(at)cccv.de melden."

There will not be a public sale, everything will go over (respwaning) vouchers.
This means we need to plan properly, everyone who wants to come should be on the voucher list till the GPN
which is May 30th-June 2nd.

This means there will be a massive shortage of tickets and we won't
get the amount of tickets that we usually are able to retrieve through
the old voucher system. This voucher system will be only used on the
camp as far as I know and that is due to the shortage of tickets which
will be at the same number as last time in 2015.
The numbers of the visitors on the congress have roughly doubled since
then.

So to speak out the ugly truth we will have to prioritize some people
over others - that just is the consequence out of the situation.

I will therefore prioritize people who commit to do something for
milliways on the camp and then people who have done something for
milliways in the past and then try to come up with something fair for
the rest of the vouchers. I do not feel well by this and are open to
other suggestions in how to proceed there but its the best solution we
have come up with so far.

== list ==
=== payment confirmed ===
# firel0x
# firel0x +1
# malaclypse
# Nina
# SleepyEntropy
# AwkwardGoodbyes
# kgz
# s3krit (freeside)
# valka
# carton
# pidgey
# carton +1
# coderobe (sigsegv)
# haegar
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# Leyrer
# shroombab
# oTTr
# Skrizi
# Shadow
# Shadow + 1
# Matt T
# willscott
# Foxboron (sigsegv)
# daravinne
# daravinne+1
# setient
# KutmasteR toorcamp
# zero9zero toorcamp
# ryd
# fellmoon
# snoopy

=== has a voucher ===
# fialo4ka (tuxcoder)
# tuxcoder
# boreq (freeside)
# anonpanda

=== wants a ticket ===
# pilgrim
# havilland
# cnm (bernhard)
# Cobolt
# Cobolt +1
# awtnmy
# awtnmy +1
# Shadow + 2
# Allie`
# Ep!c - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Ep!c +1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# shadghost
# JimGM0UIN
# JimGM0UIN + 1
# jarmour - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# jarmour + 1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# h (Haaroon) - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# h (Haaroon) + 1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# grufwub
# grufwub +1
# fialo4ka +1 (tuxcoder)
# souterrain
# Nyx (freeside)
# Nyx +1
# irl
# ana
# Japanese guys - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Japanese guys 2 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Japanese guys 3 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# gingercat
# dionyziz - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# themicp - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# FSanches - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Cheshirecat
# zoe (Cheshirecat +1)
# oTTr +1
# oTTr +2
# Andy (sigsegv)
# neuratix (sigsegv)
# OvsNL +kid - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# froztbyte
# macker
# aestetix
# Scythe
# pitanga - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Lorenz
# Timo (bingo, via Lorenz)
# Leon (via Lorenz)
# Tobias (via Lorenz)
# Leilah (via Lorenz)
# Niklas (via Lorenz)
# Nyx + 2 (crystal)
# hibby
# Antz (freeside)
# kingu +1 (feel free to give me your spot in the queue)
# assel
# techno
# cnomad
# cnomad +1
# cnomad +2
# pronto
# skyhighatrist
# skyhighatrist +1
# ens
# ens +1
# ksj (freeside)
# greyman (freeside)
# kupo
# mwfc
# krazykral
# hackfoo
# hackfoo+1
# rip
# lysobit
# kraln
# kraln + 1
# kraln + 2
# willscott +1
# Gopher - via aestetix
# shibumi
# shibumi +1
# Cobolt
# ZaphodB
# gingercat +1
# katy
# suqdiq
# kekhmet
# augeas
# 0x80 (reserve)
# 0x80 +1 (reserve)
# mindm
# olibaier
# KutmasteR +1
# hephaestus
# advancingdragon
# auerfeld + 1
# Scythe +1
# almaric +1
# SuperQ
# SuperQ +1
# SuperQ +2 (cook)
# vito
# phils
# phils +2
# fellu
# hds
# gramels
# gramels +1
# gramels +2
# jackradical - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# oTTr +3
# @juliocesarfort (rfdslabs)
# andersonc0d3 (rfdslabs)
# andersonc0d3 +1 (rfdslabs)
# @rfdslabs (rfdslabs)
# Sky_G (rfdslabs)
# ásta (@asta_fish)
# ásta (@asta_fish) +1
# ásta (@asta_fish) +2
# sandsmark (sigsegv)
# Panda (sigsegv)+1
# Panda (sigsegv)+2
# oTTr +4
# dhiru - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you

CCCamp2019-participants

2019-05-24T09:26:31Z

Fellmoon: /* payment confirmed */

this is the queue for vouchers for the Chaos Communication Camp 2019

== the ticket situation for camp 2019 ==

https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2019/camp-zelte
"Eintrittskarten für das Camp gibt es ausschließlich mit Vouchern, die im nächstgelegenen Hackerspace bereitgehalten werden. Chaosnahe Gruppen und Spaces, die Voucher verteilen wollen und bisher nicht berücksichtigt wurden, sollten sich direkt und schnell bei camp2019-tickets(at)cccv.de melden."

There will not be a public sale, everything will go over (respwaning) vouchers.
This means we need to plan properly, everyone who wants to come should be on the voucher list till the GPN
which is May 30th-June 2nd.

This means there will be a massive shortage of tickets and we won't
get the amount of tickets that we usually are able to retrieve through
the old voucher system. This voucher system will be only used on the
camp as far as I know and that is due to the shortage of tickets which
will be at the same number as last time in 2015.
The numbers of the visitors on the congress have roughly doubled since
then.

So to speak out the ugly truth we will have to prioritize some people
over others - that just is the consequence out of the situation.

I will therefore prioritize people who commit to do something for
milliways on the camp and then people who have done something for
milliways in the past and then try to come up with something fair for
the rest of the vouchers. I do not feel well by this and are open to
other suggestions in how to proceed there but its the best solution we
have come up with so far.

== list ==
=== payment confirmed ===
# firel0x
# firel0x +1
# malaclypse
# Nina
# SleepyEntropy
# AwkwardGoodbyes
# kgz
# s3krit (freeside)
# valka
# carton
# pidgey
# carton +1
# coderobe (sigsegv)
# haegar
# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# Leyrer
# shroombab
# oTTr
# Skrizi
# Shadow
# Shadow + 1
# Matt T
# willscott
# Foxboron (sigsegv)
# daravinne
# daravinne+1
# setient
# KutmasteR toorcamp
# zero9zero toorcamp
# ryd
# fellmoon
# snoopy

=== has a voucher ===
# fialo4ka (tuxcoder)
# tuxcoder
# boreq (freeside)
# fellmoon
# snoopy
# anonpanda

=== wants a ticket ===
# pilgrim
# havilland
# cnm (bernhard)
# Cobolt
# Cobolt +1
# awtnmy
# awtnmy +1
# Shadow + 2
# Allie`
# Ep!c - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Ep!c +1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# shadghost
# JimGM0UIN
# JimGM0UIN + 1
# jarmour - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# jarmour + 1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# h (Haaroon) - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# h (Haaroon) + 1 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# grufwub
# grufwub +1
# fialo4ka +1 (tuxcoder)
# souterrain
# Nyx (freeside)
# Nyx +1
# irl
# ana
# Japanese guys - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Japanese guys 2 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Japanese guys 3 - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# gingercat
# dionyziz - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# themicp - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# FSanches - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Cheshirecat
# zoe (Cheshirecat +1)
# oTTr +1
# oTTr +2
# Andy (sigsegv)
# neuratix (sigsegv)
# OvsNL +kid - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# froztbyte
# macker
# aestetix
# Scythe
# pitanga - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# Lorenz
# Timo (bingo, via Lorenz)
# Leon (via Lorenz)
# Tobias (via Lorenz)
# Leilah (via Lorenz)
# Niklas (via Lorenz)
# Nyx + 2 (crystal)
# hibby
# Antz (freeside)
# kingu +1 (feel free to give me your spot in the queue)
# assel
# techno
# cnomad
# cnomad +1
# cnomad +2
# pronto
# skyhighatrist
# skyhighatrist +1
# ens
# ens +1
# ksj (freeside)
# greyman (freeside)
# kupo
# mwfc
# krazykral
# hackfoo
# hackfoo+1
# rip
# lysobit
# kraln
# kraln + 1
# kraln + 2
# willscott +1
# Gopher - via aestetix
# shibumi
# shibumi +1
# Cobolt
# ZaphodB
# gingercat +1
# katy
# suqdiq
# kekhmet
# augeas
# 0x80 (reserve)
# 0x80 +1 (reserve)
# mindm
# olibaier
# KutmasteR +1
# hephaestus
# advancingdragon
# auerfeld + 1
# Scythe +1
# almaric +1
# SuperQ
# SuperQ +1
# SuperQ +2 (cook)
# vito
# phils
# phils +2
# fellu
# hds
# gramels
# gramels +1
# gramels +2
# jackradical - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you
# oTTr +3
# @juliocesarfort (rfdslabs)
# andersonc0d3 (rfdslabs)
# andersonc0d3 +1 (rfdslabs)
# @rfdslabs (rfdslabs)
# Sky_G (rfdslabs)
# ásta (@asta_fish)
# ásta (@asta_fish) +1
# ásta (@asta_fish) +2
# sandsmark (sigsegv)
# Panda (sigsegv)+1
# Panda (sigsegv)+2
# oTTr +4
# dhiru - please talk to mc.fly so he knows how to reach you

Camp2019-t-shirt

2019-05-10T21:28:57Z

Fellmoon: /* List of interested people */

CCCamp 2019

2019-01-20T17:28:56Z

Fellmoon: /* Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== crazy ideas ==

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: mc.fly

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages point ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

CCCamp 2019

2019-01-20T17:28:01Z

Fellmoon:

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== Voucher wish list ==

[[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list page]]

== orga ==

the [[CCCamp_2019-orga|Orga]] has its own page

== Kitchen ==

[[CCCamp_2019-kitchen|Kitchen page]]

== field day 10 nov 2018 ==

There is a field day at 10 Nov 2018 at the location. It would be useful if many people go.

people going:
# mc.fly

== crazy ideas ==

=== Biiiicycles ===
MikeTango has some post apoc bicycles that could be very useful on camp, a trike for cargo (or rickshaw), a postal service bike with boxes and others. Will bring if space is available.

We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: mc.fly

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon
# s3krit
# valka

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

mc.fly:
we have to talk to orga but as its outside there is a chance for that, the berlin village did something like this. the limit is 25m2 from what i remember...

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the joke.

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===
Organized kitchen not in headless mode making awesome food at the right time for everyone.

=== milliways lightboxes ===

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

=== Coffee / Tee / non-alcoholic beverages ===
Idea Fellmoon / Snoopy

having a fixed spot/shack/something where people can get coffee/tea/water+citricts or similiar outside the kitchen, more or less like at EMF before we go the ordered tent buildup but with a bit more "structure" like a small bar/desk thing + a few seats & possible shelter from sun - could also be used as a fixed point, where people could get coins.

CCCamp 2019-orga

2019-01-09T23:24:33Z

Fellmoon: /* Team */

CCC Camp 2019 Orga page

== Team ==
* tuxcoder
* ninab
* mwfc
* superq
* miketango
* Valka
* s3krit
* mc.fly
* fellmoon
* snoopy

== communication + orga space ==

proposal my mc.fly:

=== r0cket ===
rocket chat of the CCC, channel #milliways.

This is the main communication channel for the milliways orga. It works on Browser, there is several desktop applications and there are mobile apps for all mobile phone os.
We need something that works on both devices.

This is an invite only channel so you need to be invited by any of the moderators. ask around.

The CCC communication runs over rocket, so basically everyone in orga needs to be in this channel anyway.

=== redmine ===
a milliways redmine, to be set up.

(or a better ticket system with which we'd have to come up before redmine is set up.

=== mumble ===

for voice conferences we'll use our mumble server. from a certain point we'll need halffrequent mumble meetings.

=== milliways mailinglist ===

everyone in orga should be on the milliways mailinglist. Talk to mc.fly if you're not on the list already.

This list is not only orga but the wider milliways mailinglist. Communication that needs to be visible by everyone goes in here.

=== irc channel ===

it would be nice if people from orga would sit in #milliways on irc.hackint.org (ssl!). People will talk to you there. :-D

== job descriptions ==

=== main person with a poke stick ===

Poke people so they do things. Nicely but also don't give up.

proposal: mwfc

=== secretary ===
We'll need a secretary. Shibumi did this on ccc camp 2015 and that rocked!

This is a "on camp job" but good when on site for the later buildup.

That's the person that will get the milliways dect + gsm, twitter, jabber, irc, rocket - all of the things.
This is the contact person for internal and external communication. You have to store and forward the info to the other people of milliways. You have everyones communication channels and are able to reach out to everyone here.

Also recieves all paperwork for the event so in the end someone else can make some financial overview.

We will get a milliways GSM card (from Miketango?).

=== wiki maintainer ===

maintains the wiki from the content side and makes it usable and nice.

Mostly a job for "before the buildup".

=== it infrastructure admin ===

Management: tuxcoder

sets up and maintains the IT infrastructure so we can work on something. :-)

before camp job.

=== buildup & takedown manager ===
Management: s3krit
* be there early,
* kick people's butt that stuff gets set up and not only weedsmoking.
* have an overview what comes when and goes where.
* be on ground early,
* leave late.

s3krit volunteered for this, MikeTango is ideally maybe around for takedown.

=== logistics ===
The truck driver.

We need a person with C1E, CE or else - truck driving licence. Can drive a 7.5to truck from the milliways storage (Essen) to the camp site. Also possibly pickup run from the mill and other big pickup runs.

Ideally has driven (small) trucks before and takes over buildup logistics. that'll be some 1Mm (1000km) of distance to drive before and after roughly.

People with Klasse 3, C1E or CE driving licences:

mc.fly CE

=== social media ===

Someone handling social media and put things there. We will need some hype for us for the coins and all the other things we plan to do. Maybe also makes some photo documentation of the whole milliways (and is privacy aware).

Possibly a job for a team of 3-5 ppl but we'd need a head of the team that's part of orga.

=== power + network ===

the cable guy. Makes sure we have network + power at the places where we need it. Makes sure we have the equipment + connectivity at the places we need.

maybe also handles the milliways-DC (the servers in the benches...)

would also have to keep contact with the power + network teams at ccc

Maybe we can talk Haviland into this :D

=== water ===

we will have to handle freshwater and waste water, mostly for the kitchen. This is a planning + buildup job.

=== kitchen ===

we need here a proper chef to organize the cooking part of the kitchen and a milliways interface for that person to interact with milliways and find milliways type solutions for unique camp problems of a kitchen that big.

=== content ===

if we want to make content we need someone who looks for this. So - what kind of infrastructure do we want to build and what kind of content would we want to offer then.
Also means would be contact to somewhat CCC team there.

CCCamp 2019

2018-09-10T13:34:07Z

Fellmoon: /* Milliways Shanty town/Favela style */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== [[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list]] ==
add yourself to the list...

== crazy ideas ==
We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: mc.fly

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Tuxcoder:
Probably Kammera Bernd can help you with that,
He has some good spotlight, he done something similar on 31C3

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro: 
* shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level 
* easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas 
* lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc. 
* material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard 

con: 
* lots of (physical) work 
* probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards 
* depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing 

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the jike.

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===

=== milliways lightboxes ===

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

CCCamp 2019

2018-09-10T13:33:25Z

Fellmoon: /* Milliways Shanty town/Favela style */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== [[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list]] ==
add yourself to the list...

== crazy ideas ==
We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: mc.fly

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Tuxcoder:
Probably Kammera Bernd can help you with that,
He has some good spotlight, he done something similar on 31C3

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro:
- shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level
- easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas
- lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc.
- material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard

con:
- lots of (physical) work 
- probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards
- depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the jike.

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===

=== milliways lightboxes ===

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

CCCamp 2019

2018-09-10T13:32:45Z

Fellmoon:

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2019

the Chaos Communication Camp 2019 will be August 21 - 25 2019 at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg. Same location as CCC Camp 2015

== [[CCCamp2019-voucher-list|Voucher wish list]] ==
add yourself to the list...

== crazy ideas ==
We said we wanted to have 40 crazy ideas on the wiki to be able to pick 15 good ones.

Please add your idea, some details, who had it. Makes it easier to track this back down and ask for context.

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: mc.fly

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Tuxcoder:
Probably Kammera Bernd can help you with that,
He has some good spotlight, he done something similar on 31C3

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Spiegelzelt ===

https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace

Idea mc.fly

Price: 12 670 euro

* con
** vermutlich teurer
* pro
** vermutlich geil.

=== Wasteland Cyber Camp ===

Idea MikeTango

I'd love a Wasteland/post apoc/cyberpunk theme. Reasons: I do the wasteland stuff and have boatloads of army surplus and experience in scenebuilding in that area. With enough help i could probably build a whole compound. From my private stash:

- Tents

One Army tent 24 Person 10 by 5 meters https://adventure-world.de/WebRoot/Store3/Shops/Shop37189/525A/EED4/8D4F/00E7/C4D2/AC14/504A/0025/800033.jpg

One Army tent 6 Person 6 by 3 meters with sun roof https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4nSiGO5jsmA/T7-VHk-UYNI/AAAAAAAABLk/VuRuEDc-RfY/s912/CIMG0012.JPG

One Yurt 12 Person 8m diameter http://www.jurtenland.de/files/u1/grossjurtemitfenster_500.jpg

One yurt 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.jurtenland.de/wiki/images/8/8f/Kohtes4559.jpg

One white tent 6 person 4,5m diameter https://www.obelink.nl/images/detailed/98/Obelink_binnentent_Sahara_450_2.jpg

- Shade

Three complete desert camouflage systems https://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/shop2/iboshop.cgi?showdsearch,361854274218984,627803,back http://www3.natick.army.mil/docs/ulcans/ULCANS%20TM-5-1080-250-12-and-P.pdf

can be combined to one screen 20 by by 17 meters hexagon, 250 m²

A few hundred square meters of rectangular woodland camo nets in various sizes

- Seating

A few bean bags, hammocks, hammock chairs

- Lighting

Currently 12 professional outdoor LED lights 12*18W LED, more inbound

Shitloads of aircraft anti collision lights and other blinken

- Sound

A PA or two

- Truss

Enough Truss to build a 3 by 6 m L-gate, 3m high

- Misc

I can also provide tons of ratchet cargo straps, tiedowns, stakes, flagpoles, wires, ropes, old parachutes etc. 20 field telephones and a central station 20 DECT phones.

- What the Hack?

On last camp we had a large area under shade (and hidden from those nasty drones) and i'd love to set up something like that again. The big tents were good for people who couldnt bring their own stuff due to budget/luggage constraints. We found that you could fit lots of small tents into the spaces between the guy lines of the large tents, so no space was wasted and it looked cool. If you're worried about it looking too military, we will have enough colourful cloth, flags, blinkenlights etc to make it look funky as hell. I'd love to have everyone bring as much crazyness into it as possible.

There's more stuff if i just ask the other crazy wasteland guys.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3x36qu8nbr2v2qp/AACySEnJFpnUpwwrERqEMXDWa?dl=0
[[User:MikeTango|MikeTango]] ([[User talk:MikeTango|talk]]) 20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Support
# mc.fly
# fellmoon

=== connected-milliways physical structure ===
Idea Fellmoon

like having a (few) containers instead of tents and connect them somehow to the dome or span hammocks between and them or lift the dome up ontop of a hexagon made out of containers + having something like a terrace or a spot for other installations like watchtower2.o or lazzerz or projecting stuff on $surface

=== Milliways Shanty town/Favela style ===
Idea Fellmoon

pro:
- shelter from rain and sun, maybe doable with solid ground or an upper level
- easy to combine with dome and MikeTangos stuff/other ideas
- lot's of space for graffiti, workshops etc.
- material maybe could maybe found for little money on local a junkyard or recyclingyard

con:
- lots of (physical) work
- probably lots of material to transport to the ground/take down and dispose afterwards
- depending on the size stuff like fire-regulations could become a thing

=== disconnect all the wirelezz ===
Idea Fellmoon

like jamming all the frequencies and propagate that everybody needs to use wired connections

Pro: awesome lulz.

Con: lots of angry hackers. esp guests might not get the jike.

=== milliways moving objects ===

==== rail vehicle ====

bring transport back on the rails. We want to build a vehicle that can transport goods and (limited) people from milliways to the entrance. As a track system exists we'd like to use them.

We also need to go through information to find the gauge and possible storage locations.

Gauge is 500mm

==== Sinclair C5-S ====

Someone awesome aquired a Sinclair C5 shell without engine. We should pimp that out and have a cool, light and fast one person moving object on wheels.

awtnmy - have access to printer cutter for creating vinyl signs, could make milliways decals for vehicles easily. Max width / height is 330mm (ish) but can be almost any length you can buy vinyl rolls in.

=== working kitchen ===

=== milliways lightboxes ===

=== flight cases or other for transport simplification ===
euro containers are nice and one can get them sometimes really cheap if you we buy bulk.
various heights available, I heard that the red ones (aka meat crates) are more durable than the grey ones I use - fellmoon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_container

=== String Art in Dome ===

https://www.instructables.com/id/String-Art-Dome/

=== display/project relevant info at kitchentent ===
Idea Fellmoon

Use projector or big display-matrix (SuperQ?) to display relevant informations like estimated food time, $number volunteers avtively needed for $task, whiskyleaks, workshops etc. on a good visible place near the kitchen e.g. the tentroof

alternative: use the charkboards we have and never use :-D

CCCamp2019-participants

2018-09-08T13:50:32Z

Fellmoon:

this is the queue for vouchers for the Chaos Communication Camp 2019

# mc.fly
# cookingroffa
# ryd
# pilgrim
# havilland
# cnm (bernhard)
# JImGM0UIN
# Nina
# malaclypse
# Leyrer
# shroombab
# carton
# Cobolt
# Cobolt +1
# firel0x
# haegar
# SleepyEntropy
# AwkwardGoodbyes
# awtnmy
# awtnmy +1
# Cvthof
# fellmoon
# snoopy