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WHY 2025

2025-08-01T12:18:06Z

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{{Event
| Title = What Hackers Yearn 2025
| Description = The NL camp
| StartDate = 2025-08-08
| EndDate = 2025-08-12
| Location = [https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?params=52_41_28_N_4_44_47_E Geestmerambacht]
}}

==About==
[https://why2025.org/ What Hackers Yearn] is the dutch camp organised by [https://ifcat.org/ IFCAT]. 
WHY is the successor to MCH, SHA, OHM, etc.

==Recent News==
* The next Milliways orga meeting is on '''2025-07-20 at 19:00 UTC / 21:00 CET''' - [http://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi link].
* Tickets for WHY2025 are sold out. See [https://wiki.why2025.org/TicketSwap] and ask people in the Milliways channels if they have extra tickets.
* Add the Milliways event timeline to your calendar
** ICS is [https://calendar.milliways.info/public/WHY2025/ here]

==Communication==
Chat Communication for Milliways at WHY 2025 will be in a bridged room between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.

IRC: join #milliways-why2025 at irc.hackint.org
Matrix: join #why:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/#milliways-space:milliways.info)

We will attempt to keep this wiki page up to date with event orga changes and announcements as well as milliways updates and announcements.
The chat will have @room and/or @here notifications when large announcement \ updates are made to the wiki.

Further, there will be recurring jitsi meetings that will rise in frequency as time to the event ticks down.

==Travellers Info==
Add yourself as a participant on our [[why25-participants | Participants]] page. 
This list helps us with meal planning for our kitchen, gauging space needed at the site and feasability of our wild ideas!

=== Tickets ===
You could find them [https://tickets.why2025.org here] but they seem sold out now. See [https://wiki.why2025.org/TicketSwap] and ask people in Milliways channels if they have extra tickets.

=== What to bring? ===

Struggling with your pack list? Checkout Columbia19's excellent [https://github.com/Columbia19/Camping-Checklist camping list] and MacLemon's amazing [https://github.com/MacLemon/CongressChecklist Congress Checklist]. There is also the [https://wiki.why2025.org/What_to_bring official packing wiki page].

* Cash (as in: physical Euros)
** WHY is mostly cashless; bars, supermarket, and food are card/phone/cash-to-card. But you’ll want some cash for hacker badges, village donations, workshops, add-ons, and our [https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=Challenge_coins Milliways WHY Challenge Coin].
** Try to get your cash before you reach Alkmaar as local ATMs will be popular last-minute stops.
** Use any reputable ATM (Geldmaat or GWK) outside the region while you still can.

Tips:
* Don't let yourself get surprised by the weather, always pack for expected weather circumstances.
* Check the weather report regularly from at least a few weeks in advance until right up to your departure and change accordingly.
* A tarp is useful whether it rains or shines! ;)

Don't have camping gear for yourself? See [[#Milliways tents]].

=== When do I arrive? ===

Reference https://wiki.why2025.org/Timeline.

=== How do I find milliways? ===

Reference the official map https://map.why2025.org/.

=== Where do I find some other info? ===

Reference the official wiki https://wiki.why2025.org/.

=== Milliways tents ===

We have a small amount of tents that we'll bring with us. Maybe 5.

Add yourself if you need a tent:

# Isabella (Z80Kitty)
# Alex P.
# ...

==Plans==

Public Milliways Event Timeline is [https://calendar.milliways.info/public/WHY2025/ here]
Add it to your own calendar app!

===Day 0 - Thursday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====14:00 Welcome to Milliways!====
First camp? Confused about where to go or what to do? How does the kitchen work and what is Milliways anyway? Come get a tour of the village, find out what we're about and how to get involved here!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

===Day 1 - Friday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====14:00 Welcome to Milliways!====
First camp? Confused about where to go or what to do? How does the kitchen work and what is Milliways anyway? Come get a tour of the village, find out what we're about and how to get involved here!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

====Midnight Snack====

===Day 2 - Saturday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 PHRACK #72 RELEASE PARTY====
[https://haunted.computer/@phrack/114870139947457649 Free beer & PHRACK memorial b33r cup 🍻]

====Midnight Fries====

===Day 3 - Sunday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 Whiskyleaks====
Milliways' famous Whiskyleaks event;
Self organizing, repeating, turned into a legend. Many bottles arrive, none leave. Bring a bottle of your favourite whisky (or other spirits) and share it with other passionate drinkers. If you can’t bring a bottle, come along - bring one next time! We will start in the evening, the more exact time will appear here eventually.

====Midnight Fries====

===Day 4 - Monday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 SSH Retro Games====
Your event here?

====Midnight Snack====

===Day 5 - Tuesday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

===[[Challenge_coins|Coins]], Flags, Patches===

We have WHY themed [[Challenge_coins|challenge coins]] which are a nice souvenir available for a donation which helps us run Milliways, give you free beer etc. Ask the Milliways Infodesk or find someone who seems less confused than everyone else to get one.

We also have [[2025-flag-list|Milliways flags]] and Milliways patches available.

==Meetings==
Pads can be created under https://cpad.milliways.info/ Please link here when done.

1900 UTC / whatever that is in your timezone

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! When !! Where !! Type !! Description !! Notes
|-
| 2024-06-04 || emfcamp || meetup || a first meeting of interested participants ||
|-
| 2024-06-15 || Geestmerambacht || field day || first WHY2025 field day || [[WHY_2025_fieldday | read our notes]]
|-
| 2024-07-07 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Kickoff || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/view/bmr6Uu1+qwFSpwT9BeoMelbsZ6RlaBk0WSaFjCkmNG0/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-08-04 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+husak0eYk62ct5+wtLfKlWf/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-09-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || September Meeting || nothing of relevance, so no meeting minutes
|-
| 2024-10-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || October Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/FnLspvub47govb-jN0TkVX3V/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-11-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || November Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/gyi54e3nrJ8dMliGPpFtkhIB/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-12-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || December Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/SS60FKCoUIJuDCWNe7XypLW1/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-12-28 || [[38c3]] || meetup || WHY have a plan? || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/Sf1RsoCXPw3rBDTdMk0AHZui/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-01-05 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || January Meeting || none - all still wasted from 38c3
|-
| 2025-02-02 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || February Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/HCsjnP4BkMbAupMV42XVX0ON/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-03-09 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || March Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/hOoprw3ndoIUm-Dn7KpLcibp/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-04-06 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || April Meeting 1/2 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/WvV4lMwmSgh7HZE7YzitKJFP/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-04-20 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || April Meeting 2/2 || |
|-
| 2025-05-11 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || May Meeting 1/2 || |
|-
| 2025-05-18 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || May Meeting 2/2 ||
[https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+kSxbKmdcAq0-hcEE1JA-s0-/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 1/3 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/HKy8wBu9l+xuxA3qcqk0rzRU/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-15 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 2/3 ||
[https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/Jp3Irj6do2XbOtu13S2JriHf/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-29 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 3/3 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/dkKFaRa8x+osIxucldEAdi+Y/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-06 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 1/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/BuYPDIIJ72PNIe5cI5mx36o5/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 2/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/RakXYXj7wedz8Du1r00ZGybV/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-20 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 3/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/VcO6wb83jB7gfwFIcsVlS4e-/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-27 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 4/4 || | [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/fGk7P+Su-5gQQS36JaKhf55i/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-08-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting (last remove before camp) || |
|-
| 2025-08-08 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 0 || |
|-
| 2025-08-09 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 1 || |
|-
| 2025-08-10 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 2 || |
|-
| 2025-08-11 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 3 || |
|-
| 2025-08-12 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 4 || |
|}

We meet in [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] on the first sunday of every month at 21:00 German Standard Time until April 2025. 
There will be bi-weekly (once every two weeks) meetings in April, May and June. 
There will be weekly meetings in July and Aug. 
There will be daily meetings during WHY.

== Teams ==
=== Call for Engagement - We want you! ===

We currently have a CfER (Call for Event-Reiseleitung) open! 
We are looking for:
* one or two more Archangels
** Organize volunteers in/around our village (and possibly stage)
** Link up with WHY orga Volunteer Team
* Bar manager
* Logistics team
** Truck from Weeze to WHY
** Loading \ Unloading
** Perhaps local pickup/dropoff of groceries/materials if scheduled delivery unavailable
* Buildup team (optional: Mgr)
** Be onsite, from latest Day 0 - Thurs 7th Aug (prefer Day -2 Tues 5th), helping with Milliways buildup (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
** Understand what needs to be built, where and how.
** Help unload Storage truck
* Teardown team
** Be onsite, until latest Day 6 - Wed 13th Aug, helping with Milliways teardown (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
** Understand what needs to be packed up, where and how.
** Make sure everything packed is at least clean (can't promise dry, that is weather dependent)
** Help load storage truck
* Treasurer
* Social Media Manager (hanemile might claim this as part of the infodesk if nobody else does)
** Keep our Mastadon up to date with events (Talks/Worksshop/Entertainment)
** Retoot interesting orga, sub village, individual stuff, boost mentions etc
* Music!
** We need DJs for evenings!
*** Feel free to add yourself to [[#Sets]] or post in https://matrix.to/#/#art-beauty:milliways.info.

===Event Reiseleitung===
Find yourself in need of someone kinda official to talk to about something Milliways specific for WHY? Look no further than this list!
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Role !! Name !! understudy 1 !! understudy 2
|-
| WHY Orga contact || [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Archangel || [[User:Zornem | Zornem]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Archangel || [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Infodesk || [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Constructions || [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Deco (Art \ Light \ Interactive) || [[User:boreq | boreq]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Noise (music, DJs) || <yourname> || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Power + Midnight snack || [[User:cqc | cqc]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || [[User:mc.fly | McFly]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || emerson || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || [[User:cy | cy]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Stage Team || [[User:kraln | kraln]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Stage Team (Technical) || [[User:firel0x | firel0x]] || tbd. || tbd.
|}

=== Kitchen ===
*Manager needed
The difference in having our own dedicated dishwashing station (at at least, access to freshwater and waste through rotating [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_bulk_container IBCs] or similar) at CCCamp23 vs using public facilities at EMF was apparant and frustrating to all. We hold up the dishwashing queue for individuals, families and smaller villages which is not a great experience and we can't efficiently or correctly clean our equipment because of lack of space, warm water etc. It would be great if we could have our own dedicated space at WHY 2025.

Instead of relying on volunteer kitchen managers, our idea is to have a professional Chef/Cook/Kitchen Manager paid by Milliways to head up the Kitchen. We then need to look for a Milliways Kitchen Manager accustomed to organizing volunteers and other hackercamp event stuff to liasie between our kitchen, our archangels and event.

=== Bar ===

=== Infodesk ===
Headed by [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]]. 
Like at CCCamp23, have an infodesk with...

* info on Milliways content (talks/workshops/whats happening when?)
* lost&found (we've got a box with stuff™)
* directions (people tend to get lost)
* weather (water && sunscreen distribution)
* mealtimes and meal info
* volunteer signup (in coordination with the archangels)
* coins!
* stickers
* music
* and more (something always pops up)!

From an online perspective, it would be nice to have "The Internet" accessible from within the infodesk. Though most information on site is consumed via black or whiteboards.

Setup: the ccc-camp style "hut" was amazing, having a roof against rain and sun is essential.

=== Team Beer ===

The team is [[User:cy|cy]], [[User:ljrk|lj-rk]] and [[User:mc.fly | mc.fly]]

Sponsor a keg list: [[Why2026-beer]]

We want to make the Beer tap great again.

For that we plan to orgainze german (and maybe dutch) Beers at the camp.

Further beers are welcome.
* Brouwerij Hoop [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/f/fc/Prijslijst_2025_12_Korting.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
** Prefers 2-4day notice for orders
** Cannot deliver to WHY, pickup only.
* Bier&co [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/b/b6/Prijslijst_Bier%26cO_01-01-2025_-_HAP_Kern.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
** Prefers 7-10day notice for orders
** Can deliver to WHY

We'll have all the tap heads that exist to make sure we can tap everything properly.

If you want to bring a beer keg please talk to us.

=== Power ===
Lead: cqc

As of 2207 there are no requirements and no plan, but we should be good based on cccamp23 stock in storage?

Coordinating additional cabling purchases for jungle dome lighting install to supplement, as we do not have the miketango supplies from cccamp23.

=== Water ===

Planning a 100m run of drinkwater safe Tyleen HDPE 25mm tube from Team Safety to Kitchen.
Approeved by Team:NUTS.

Secondarily planning a separate tap for village use to fill water bottles - near bar?
Might not meet this ask.

=== Art & Beauty ===

[[File:Jungledome.png | 800px | link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclaXQWVRCg]]

Discussion takes place here https://matrix.to/#/#art-beauty:milliways.info.

==== Sets ====

Feel free to add yourself here if you want to play music at some point. There are things happening on some evenings e.g. Whiskyleaks which may influence your choice, see [[#Plans]]. Talk to boreq to try to figure out scheduling.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Who !! Start
|-
| nspace + cyanpencil for the phrack party || Day 2, Saturday, 20:00 - 22:00?
|-
| chrome || Day 2, Saturday Night?
|-
| coderobe || needs scheduling
|-
| Lorphos || needs scheduling
|-
| altrona || needs scheduling
|-
|}

==== Curfew ====

* Curfew is 23:00. This is driven by location permit. [https://wiki.why2025.org/Camprules#Noise] [https://wiki.why2025.org/FAQ#What_about_noise,_music_and_such?]
* Party area will switch to a camp-wide silent disco at 23:00. Some explanation on how this works here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYR5NEg8sHY&t=830s].
* PL don't wanna play police through team safety. Overshooting 23:00 by 10-15mins ok, fine but don't test the limits.
** There's no real measurable "This is loud/This is quiet" level as then you get into - how is this measured, from what distance, in which direction, with which equipment.
** So it's gonna be a vibe check.
*** Please demonstrate excellence and work towards finishing your set around 23:00 with margin for error.
** Note that the wiki says no LOUD music so the implication is that some music is fine but we will likely have to turn it down significantly.

==== Planning ====

'''Rules: if it's a list it means nothing. If it's a table it means we ordered this/it's coming/it's confirmed.'''

Here is the idea for the dome/music:
* we take the [[Dome]]
* we put the lights, music and fog machines in it
* maybe some seating on the sides
* we add camo nets and fake plants hanging from the dome
* we end up with a jungle music dome
* we need jungle dome [I'm afraid]

What we have and MAY bring, needs coordinating:
* mcfly has a [https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/32787921000.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2pol shehds dmx controler]
* ✅ Lorphos WILL bring a <abbr title="Reloop Terminal Mix 8 with balanced 6.3mm TR jacks and RCA for master out and RCA booth out, needs laptop to operate">DJ controller</abbr>, a dj headset and a disco ball light with DMX512.
* cqc thought about maybe making a disco ball that looks like the WHY logo
* mcfly has an [https://www.highlite.com/en/50807-net-2-3-pocket.html artnet dmx controller]

===== Questions for the meeting / things we need / outstanding problems =====
* we need eurocrates to store nets plants for future events, have we ordered those?
** Meeting 2025-07-06: not ordering yet, we will see what the financial situation is after why
* "We need to do a CfP for deco and art for our village. " is this still relevant?
** maybe do something on day 1?
* dj table how large?
* [[Why 2025 art and beauty#Painting/Signage|Sign and booth painting supplies]]
* the noise rules are abysmal

===== Fixtures we will have from 250722 meeting with mc.fly =====
* 20 pars?
** 12-16x outdoor PARs RGBWA-UV 18x18W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008567036434.html
* 5 bars
** 5x bars indoor RGBWA-UV 18x18W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000112732451.html
* 6 moving heads
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33044876126.html
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006165502030.html
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32848251342.html
* 2x blinders
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004930079185.html
* Disco ball
** 40cm disco ball and spinner
* mounting clamps
** 24x https://www.thomann.nl/manfrotto_035_super_clamp_24pcs.htm
* RGB crystal magic ball (DMX) 1x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006565214937.html
* ArtNet adapter
** mc.fly bringing https://www.thomann.nl/showtec_net_2_3_pocket.htm
* Avo Quartz lighting desk (from Infinity)

====== Still needed as of 250722: ======
* Mounting Clamps: 1x more set of 24x https://www.thomann.nl/manfrotto_035_super_clamp_24pcs.htm
** do these need extra bolts to connect to the base of the fixture to the clamp?
* Power Cables
** powercon, build or buy
** more schuko multitaps
** more schuko extension cables
* DMX
** buy premade

====Music setup checklist====
* ✅ Sound System: Fame Audio Discovery 15+18 Stage 4 - Set
* ✅ Main mixer: X32 digital mixer with 16 XLR preamp (very kindly provided by Infinity553)
* Long XLR balanced cables to connect mixer to sound system (need to check if they’re included with the sound system)
* ✅ <abbr title="Reloop Terminal Mix 8 with balanced 6.3mm TR jacks and RCA for master out and RCA booth out, needs laptop to operate">DJ controller</abbr> with XLR cables 3m
* ✅ DJ-style headphones
* ✅ Cable protection (ramps or tape): cables can simply be attached to the dome so they won't be on the ground
* Large table for gear and mixer (ideally supports two setups, for smooth switches)
* ✅ Sun cover for daytime sets, if any are planned: big white tarp for the dome ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ Emergency rain cover, quick to deploy: big white tarp for the dome ([[Weeze Storage]])
* Power strip and enough power supplies, with extra outlets on table (separate from sound system)
* Audio backup (e.g. USB with preloaded set — chrome'll handle it)
* Separate surface for DMX/lights/FX gear
* ✅ Power supply for lights and effects: a lot of power cables and power strips will come from storage
* For the music console location: If the mixer<>system XLR cables are long enough (about 15m?), we could place the console in front of the speakers, behind the crowd. This would remove the need for monitors and improve mixing quality. We can decide on site.

====Lighting and special effects setup checklist====
* ✅ DMX lights: unknown amount ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ DMX cables: unknown amount ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ Fog machines: being provided by Infinity and mcfly
* ✅ Fog machine juice
* ✅ DMX controller: Infinity is bringing a DMX console
* Power cables: cqc worries we don't have enough in storage?
* artnet to dmx?
* sign that says JUNGLE DOME
** [[User:Agb]] will handle painting, but sign needs a primer coat in advance
** [[Why 2025 art and beauty#Painting/Signage|Sign painting supplies]]

====What Infinity is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Type !! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Speakers || Fame Discovery || 2 || Active Speaker Set 2x 18"Sub 2x 15"Top || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Mixer || Behringer X32 || 1 || Tour Mixer for FOH || Not Waterproof!
|-
| DJ Deck || Denon Prime 4+ || 1 || Standalone DJ Console || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Lightdesk || Avo Quartz || 1 || Standalone DMX Console || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Cable || CEE 7/4 to True1 || 2 || Powercable for Speaker Sub/Top Splitter || CEE7/4 side is IP rated Plug
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 20m || 2 || Mixer > Speaker || None
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 20m || 2 || Booth > FOH || None
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 3m || 2 || Sub > Top || Connect top speakers when on Pole
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 15m || 2 || Sub > Top || Connect top speakers when mounted else where
|-
| Cable || Ethercon Spool 50m || 1 || DMX Controller > Artnetnode || None
|-
| Special effect || Fog machine || 1 || 600W ||
|-
|}

====What mcfly is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Type !! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Special effect || 1500W Fog Smoke Machine DMX RGB 24LED Stage Light Effect Remote Vertical Sprayer || 1 || ||
|-
| Artnet to DMX || Showtec NET-2/3 Pocket || 1 || ||
|-
|}

====What Lorphos is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Rgb Magic Ball Effect Light Dmx || 1 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006565214937.html ||
|-
|-
|}

====What was ordered to Obsidian's====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Cost (Euro) !! Who paid !! Notes !! Delivered?
|-
| Camo net (4m x 6m) || 10 || 225 || boreq || 2 kinds, 5 of each = 10 || ✅
|-
| Fake red flowers || 10 || 14 || boreq || 5 sets of 2 = 10 plant units || ✅
|-
| Fake purple flowers || 10 || 14 || boreq || 5 sets of 2 = 10 plant units || ✅
|-
| Fake ivy || 9 || 30 || boreq || 9 sets of 10m = 9 sets of 5 strings = 45 strings || ✅
|-
| Fake fern || 10 || 22 || boreq || 10 ferns || ✅
|-
| Fog machine juice 5l || 3 x 5l || 65 || boreq || Cameo CLFDJ5L Medium Density/Tool Time DJ Liquid for Smoke Machine || ✅
|-
| Zipties || 500 || 10 || boreq || 250x3 || ✅
|-
| Disco ball || 1 || ? || willscott || || ✅
|-
| Glowsticks || 400 || 45 || boreq || || ✅
|-
| Earplugs || 100 || 15 || boreq || 100 pairs || ✅
|-
| Powercon connector || 20 || 30 || boreq || || ✅
|-
| Fog machine juice || 2 x 20l || 90 || boreq || ||
|-
| Powercon connector || 10 || 15 || boreq || || ✅
|-
|}

====What was ordered for Phrack====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Delivered?
|-
| PAR outdoor RGBWA-UV 18x18W || 6 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008567036434.html PowerCon, 3pDMX || yes
|-
| spot moving head 60W RGBW || 4 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/33004809614.html IEC, 3pDMX|| yes
|-
| vertical Smoke machine 1500W RGB || 1 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007886644419.html IEC, 3pDMX||
|-
| horizontal smoke machine 1500W || 2 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005009120378630.html IEC, 3pDMX || yes
|-
| 6W laser || 2 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005009465593672.html PowerCon, 3pDMX|| yes
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 1m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 2m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 3m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 5m ||
|-
| Manfrotto clamp || 24 || ||
|-
| Safety cable || 40 || ||
|-
|}

====What is being brought from the storage? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Moved to Obsidian's? !! Moved to camp?
|-
| Tarp || 1 || The large white tarp for the dome || ||
|-
| [[Dome]] || 1 || || ||
|-
| Benches || ? || The dome benches || ||
|-
| DMX lights || ? || || ||
|-
| DMX cables || ? || || ||
|-
| Power cables || ? || cqc voiced concerns about their number || ||
|-
|}

====What is being built? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Completed?
|-
| Sign|| 1 || Sign that says "Jungle Dome" ||
|-
|}

====What is being organized and will be available but boreq lost control over where and when that is appearing etc? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! We have this?
|-
| Banner || 1 || Banner that says "Jungle Dome" || ORdered and paid. Delivery to Obsidian on Fri 1st.
|-
| DJ table || 1 || 200x60 Klapptheken (Likely 94 high) No sink ;) || Rental confirmed and paid. Pickup Day -1 Wed 6th
|-
|}

=== Constructions ===
Headed by [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]]. 
'''Please remember''' This is a hackercamp, we should only plan for this if we have the people, plans and equipment in place to fulfill the request. 
We can not improvise any serious woodworking on-site at little to no notice.
====Intended Constructions====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! What !! Planned !! Completed !! Notes
|-
| Infodesk || in progress || No || mcfly + junglerot working on this?
|-
| Bar || done || Done || To be moved to Obsidian's on sat 2nd as flatpack
|-
| Kitchen Floor || lumber order planned || No || Not a sure thing. Weather dependant
|}

It should go without saying, but to be sure; 
Don't teardown any constructions without approval from construction team.
Don't use excess lumber \ torn down constructions to build bonfires.

=== Heaven ===
Headed by [[User:zornem | Zornem]]
Supported by [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]]

Getting the right volunteers in the right places at the right times has proved challenging in the past, which creates absolute chaos. 
Chaos is fine and all every now and again and certainly, it's to be expected at these events, but; in the one area we are known for, the one area we strive to deliver properly, our wonderful kitchen that provides delicious food by hardworking volunteers - is suffering due to this chaos.

How can we make this better?

* With our own heaven using something like the [https://engelsystem.de/ Engelsystem]? other ideas?
* Perhaps we can even link into and use or have volunteer shifts available in WHY's volunteer system for kitchen and - if we do our own stage - the heralding etc?
* Have a big whiteboard / blackboard into which people can add themselves. Pro: is super present and people can directly see what is still needed, best even if it's in the queue for the kitchen, so people can see the current status and spontaneously add themselves.

=== Logistics / Buildup / Teardown ===

* Sat 02.08 - We are taking things from storage and staging them closer to camp at Obsidian's
* Sun 03.08 - DAY -4
* Mon 04.08 - DAY -3
* Tue 05.08 - DAY -2 - if something isn't at Obsidian's at this point it won't get to camp - we are bringing things from Obsidian's to camp - Milliways Buildup 1
* Wed 06.08 - DAY -1 - Milliways Buildup 2
* Thu 07.08 - DAY 0 - Milliways Buildup 3
* Fri 08.08 - DAY 1
* Sat 09.08 - DAY 2
* Sun 10.08 - DAY 3
* Mon 11.08 - DAY 4
* Tue 12.08 - DAY 5
* Wed 13.08 - Teardown 1
* Thu 14.08 - Teardown 2

=== Freeside ===

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! What !! Who !! How much !! Note
|-
| Coleman shelter + 2 walls || cqc || 205 EUR|| Ordered to Obsidian's and delivered
|-
| Biergarten furniture || obsidian || de nada || included 1 beer table set for freeside in milliways order
|-
| 5x outdoor power strip || ilbelkyr || de nada || will be brought to camp
|-
| A few flags || boreq || de nada || will be brought to camp
|-
|}

== Vendors ==

* Groothandel (wholesale market) - sligro in Alkmaar
https://www.sligro.nl/vestigingen/alkmaar.html
* Brouwerij Hoop [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/f/fc/Prijslijst_2025_12_Korting.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
* Bier&co 2025 Pricelist
* Aanhangwagenbedrijf [http://www.vandeburgwal.nl/ van de Burgwal]
** Cooling Trailer
** €435
** Need to ask about second trailer
* [https://meijnetenten.nl/ Meijne Tenten]
** 5x15 army tent
** €256
** No Delivery/Drop-off - pickup only

Bier:
* Trinkgut https://www.trinkgut.de/markt/konopatzki
* Getraenke Janssen GmbH - +4928289039991

== Subvillages ==

* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:SSH_(Spanish_Speaking_Hackers) SSH]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Cluster:GR.A.P.P.A. GR.A.P.P.A.]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Cyber_Saiyan Cyber Saiyan]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:End_Summer_Camp End Summer Camp]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Metro_Olografix Metro Olografix]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:What_Hackers_J%C3%B6rn What Hackers Jörn]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:EMF EMF]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Freeside Freeside]
* Church of Cryptography
* Hardware Hacking Area
* RIPE NCC
* Italian Hacker Embassy
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Irish_Embassy Irish Embassy ]

==Infrastructure==

===[[Dome]]===

We will be using it for the organized events and music.

===Rummary Tent===

===5x15 Army tent hangout spot===

===[[Weeze_Storage]]===

==History==

Milliways has attended several hackercamps in NL;

*2022 [[MCH_2022|May Contain Hackers]]
*2017 [[SHA_2017|Still Hacking Anyway]]
*2013 [[OHM_2013|Observe. Hack. Make.]]
*2009 [[HAR_2009|Hacking At Random]]
*2005 [[WTH_2005|What The Hack]]

[[Category:why2025]]

WHY 2025

2025-07-28T16:29:49Z

Chrome:

{{Event
| Title = What Hackers Yearn 2025
| Description = The NL camp
| StartDate = 2025-08-08
| EndDate = 2025-08-12
| Location = [https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?params=52_41_28_N_4_44_47_E Geestmerambacht]
}}

==About==
[https://why2025.org/ What Hackers Yearn] is the dutch camp organised by [https://ifcat.org/ IFCAT]. 
WHY is the successor to MCH, SHA, OHM, etc.

==Recent News==
* The next Milliways orga meeting is on '''2025-07-20 at 19:00 UTC / 21:00 CET''' - [http://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi link].
* Tickets for WHY2025 are sold out. See [https://wiki.why2025.org/TicketSwap] and ask people in the Milliways channels if they have extra tickets.
* Add the Milliways event timeline to your calendar
** ICS is [https://calendar.milliways.info/public/WHY2025/ here]

==Communication==
Chat Communication for Milliways at WHY 2025 will be in a bridged room between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.

IRC: join #milliways-why2025 at irc.hackint.org
Matrix: join #why:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/#milliways-space:milliways.info)

We will attempt to keep this wiki page up to date with event orga changes and announcements as well as milliways updates and announcements.
The chat will have @room and/or @here notifications when large announcement \ updates are made to the wiki.

Further, there will be recurring jitsi meetings that will rise in frequency as time to the event ticks down.

==Travellers Info==
Add yourself as a participant on our [[why25-participants | Participants]] page. 
This list helps us with meal planning for our kitchen, gauging space needed at the site and feasability of our wild ideas!

=== Tickets ===
You could find them [https://tickets.why2025.org here] but they seem sold out now. See [https://wiki.why2025.org/TicketSwap] and ask people in Milliways channels if they have extra tickets.

=== What to bring? ===

Struggling with your pack list? Checkout Columbia19's excellent [https://github.com/Columbia19/Camping-Checklist camping list] and MacLemon's amazing [https://github.com/MacLemon/CongressChecklist Congress Checklist]. There is also the [https://wiki.why2025.org/What_to_bring official packing wiki page].

Tips:
* Don't let yourself get surprised by the weather, always pack for expected weather circumstances.
* Check the weather report regularly from at least a few weeks in advance until right up to your departure and change accordingly.
* A tarp is useful whether it rains or shines! ;)

Don't have camping gear for yourself? Watch this space - we may have something to offer for you!

=== When do I arrive? ===

Reference https://wiki.why2025.org/Timeline.

=== How do I find milliways? ===

Reference the official map https://map.why2025.org/.

=== Where do I find some other info? ===

Reference the official wiki https://wiki.why2025.org/.

=== milliways tents ===

we have a small ammount of tents that we'll bring with us. Maybe 5.

Add yourself if you need a tent:

# user #1
# Isabella (Z80Kitty)

==Plans==

Public Milliways Event Timeline is [https://calendar.milliways.info/public/WHY2025/ here]
Add it to your own calendar app!

===Day 0 - Thursday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====14:00 Welcome to Milliways!====
First camp? Confused about where to go or what to do? How does the kitchen work and what is Milliways anyway? Come get a tour of the village, find out what we're about and how to get involved here!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

===Day 1 - Friday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====14:00 Welcome to Milliways!====
First camp? Confused about where to go or what to do? How does the kitchen work and what is Milliways anyway? Come get a tour of the village, find out what we're about and how to get involved here!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

====Midnight Snack====

===Day 2 - Saturday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 PHRACK #72 RELEASE PARTY====
[https://haunted.computer/@phrack/114870139947457649 Free beer & PHRACK memorial b33r cup 🍻]

====Midnight Fries====

===Day 3 - Sunday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 Whiskyleaks====
Milliways' famous Whiskyleaks event;
Self organizing, repeating, turned into a legend. Many bottles arrive, none leave. Bring a bottle of your favourite whisky (or other spirits) and share it with other passionate drinkers. If you can’t bring a bottle, come along - bring one next time! We will start in the evening, the more exact time will appear here eventually.

====Midnight Fries====

===Day 4 - Monday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 SSH Retro Games====
Your event here?

====Midnight Snack====

===Day 5 - Tuesday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

===[[Challenge_coins|Coins]], Flags, Patches===

We have WHY themed [[Challenge_coins|challenge coins]] which are a nice souvenir available for a donation which helps us run Milliways, give you free beer etc. Ask the Milliways Infodesk or find someone who seems less confused than everyone else to get one.

We also have [[2025-flag-list|Milliways flags]] and Milliways patches available.

==Meetings==
Pads can be created under https://cpad.milliways.info/ Please link here when done.

1900 UTC / whatever that is in your timezone

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! When !! Where !! Type !! Description !! Notes
|-
| 2024-06-04 || emfcamp || meetup || a first meeting of interested participants ||
|-
| 2024-06-15 || Geestmerambacht || field day || first WHY2025 field day || [[WHY_2025_fieldday | read our notes]]
|-
| 2024-07-07 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Kickoff || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/view/bmr6Uu1+qwFSpwT9BeoMelbsZ6RlaBk0WSaFjCkmNG0/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-08-04 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+husak0eYk62ct5+wtLfKlWf/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-09-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || September Meeting || nothing of relevance, so no meeting minutes
|-
| 2024-10-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || October Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/FnLspvub47govb-jN0TkVX3V/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-11-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || November Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/gyi54e3nrJ8dMliGPpFtkhIB/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-12-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || December Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/SS60FKCoUIJuDCWNe7XypLW1/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-12-28 || [[38c3]] || meetup || WHY have a plan? || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/Sf1RsoCXPw3rBDTdMk0AHZui/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-01-05 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || January Meeting || none - all still wasted from 38c3
|-
| 2025-02-02 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || February Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/HCsjnP4BkMbAupMV42XVX0ON/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-03-09 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || March Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/hOoprw3ndoIUm-Dn7KpLcibp/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-04-06 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || April Meeting 1/2 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/WvV4lMwmSgh7HZE7YzitKJFP/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-04-20 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || April Meeting 2/2 || |
|-
| 2025-05-11 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || May Meeting 1/2 || |
|-
| 2025-05-18 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || May Meeting 2/2 ||
[https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+kSxbKmdcAq0-hcEE1JA-s0-/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 1/3 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/HKy8wBu9l+xuxA3qcqk0rzRU/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-15 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 2/3 ||
[https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/Jp3Irj6do2XbOtu13S2JriHf/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-29 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 3/3 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/dkKFaRa8x+osIxucldEAdi+Y/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-06 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 1/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/BuYPDIIJ72PNIe5cI5mx36o5/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 2/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/RakXYXj7wedz8Du1r00ZGybV/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-20 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 3/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/VcO6wb83jB7gfwFIcsVlS4e-/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-27 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 4/4 || | [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/fGk7P+Su-5gQQS36JaKhf55i/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-08-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting (last remove before camp) || |
|-
| 2025-08-08 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 0 || |
|-
| 2025-08-09 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 1 || |
|-
| 2025-08-10 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 2 || |
|-
| 2025-08-11 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 3 || |
|-
| 2025-08-12 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 4 || |
|}

We meet in [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] on the first sunday of every month at 21:00 German Standard Time until April 2025. 
There will be bi-weekly (once every two weeks) meetings in April, May and June. 
There will be weekly meetings in July and Aug. 
There will be daily meetings during WHY.

== Teams ==
=== Call for Engagement - We want you! ===

We currently have a CfER (Call for Event-Reiseleitung) open! 
We are looking for:
* one or two more Archangels
** Organize volunteers in/around our village (and possibly stage)
** Link up with WHY orga Volunteer Team
* Bar manager
* Logistics team
** Truck from Weeze to WHY
** Loading \ Unloading
** Perhaps local pickup/dropoff of groceries/materials if scheduled delivery unavailable
* Buildup team (optional: Mgr)
** Be onsite, from latest Day 0 - Thurs 7th Aug (prefer Day -2 Tues 5th), helping with Milliways buildup (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
** Understand what needs to be built, where and how.
** Help unload Storage truck
* Teardown team
** Be onsite, until latest Day 6 - Wed 13th Aug, helping with Milliways teardown (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
** Understand what needs to be packed up, where and how.
** Make sure everything packed is at least clean (can't promise dry, that is weather dependent)
** Help load storage truck
* Treasurer
* Social Media Manager (hanemile might claim this as part of the infodesk if nobody else does)
** Keep our Mastadon up to date with events (Talks/Worksshop/Entertainment)
** Retoot interesting orga, sub village, individual stuff, boost mentions etc
* Music!
** We need DJs for evenings!
*** Feel free to add yourself to [[#Sets]] or post in https://matrix.to/#/#art-beauty:milliways.info.

===Event Reiseleitung===
Find yourself in need of someone kinda official to talk to about something Milliways specific for WHY? Look no further than this list!
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Role !! Name !! understudy 1 !! understudy 2
|-
| WHY Orga contact || [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Archangel || [[User:Zornem | Zornem]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Archangel || [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Infodesk || [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Constructions || [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Deco (Art \ Light \ Interactive) || [[User:boreq | boreq]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Noise (music, DJs) || <yourname> || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Power + Midnight snack || [[User:cqc | cqc]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || [[User:mc.fly | McFly]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || emerson || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || [[User:cy | cy]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Stage Team || [[User:kraln | kraln]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Stage Team (Technical) || [[User:firel0x | firel0x]] || tbd. || tbd.
|}

=== Kitchen ===
*Manager needed
The difference in having our own dedicated dishwashing station (at at least, access to freshwater and waste through rotating [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_bulk_container IBCs] or similar) at CCCamp23 vs using public facilities at EMF was apparant and frustrating to all. We hold up the dishwashing queue for individuals, families and smaller villages which is not a great experience and we can't efficiently or correctly clean our equipment because of lack of space, warm water etc. It would be great if we could have our own dedicated space at WHY 2025.

Instead of relying on volunteer kitchen managers, our idea is to have a professional Chef/Cook/Kitchen Manager paid by Milliways to head up the Kitchen. We then need to look for a Milliways Kitchen Manager accustomed to organizing volunteers and other hackercamp event stuff to liasie between our kitchen, our archangels and event.

=== Bar ===

=== Infodesk ===
Headed by [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]]. 
Like at CCCamp23, have an infodesk with...

* info on Milliways content (talks/workshops/whats happening when?)
* lost&found (we've got a box with stuff™)
* directions (people tend to get lost)
* weather (water && sunscreen distribution)
* mealtimes and meal info
* volunteer signup (in coordination with the archangels)
* coins!
* stickers
* music
* and more (something always pops up)!

From an online perspective, it would be nice to have "The Internet" accessible from within the infodesk. Though most information on site is consumed via black or whiteboards.

Setup: the ccc-camp style "hut" was amazing, having a roof against rain and sun is essential.

=== Team Beer ===

The team is [[User:cy|cy]], [[User:ljrk|lj-rk]] and [[User:mc.fly | mc.fly]]

Sponsor a keg list: [[Why2026-beer]]

We want to make the Beer tap great again.

For that we plan to orgainze german (and maybe dutch) Beers at the camp.

Further beers are welcome.
* Brouwerij Hoop [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/f/fc/Prijslijst_2025_12_Korting.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
** Prefers 2-4day notice for orders
** Cannot deliver to WHY, pickup only.
* Bier&co [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/b/b6/Prijslijst_Bier%26cO_01-01-2025_-_HAP_Kern.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
** Prefers 7-10day notice for orders
** Can deliver to WHY

We'll have all the tap heads that exist to make sure we can tap everything properly.

If you want to bring a beer keg please talk to us.

=== Power ===
Lead: cqc

As of 2207 there are no requirements and no plan, but we should be good based on cccamp23 stock in storage?

Coordinating additional cabling purchases for jungle dome lighting install to supplement, as we do not have the miketango supplies from cccamp23.

=== Water ===

We don't know what the water connection situation is.

=== Art & Beauty ===

[[File:Jungledome.png | 800px | link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclaXQWVRCg]]

Discussion takes place here https://matrix.to/#/#art-beauty:milliways.info.

==== Sets ====

Feel free to add yourself here if you want to play music at some point. There are things happening on some evenings e.g. Whiskyleaks which may influence your choice, see [[#Plans]]. Talk to boreq to try to figure out scheduling.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Who !! Start
|-
| nspace + cyanpencil for the phrack party || Day 2, Saturday, 20:00 - 22:00?
|-
| chrome || Day 2, Saturday, 21.00 > 23.00 or 22.00 > 24.00?
|-
| coderobe || needs scheduling
|-
| Lorphos || needs scheduling
|-
| altrona || needs scheduling
|-
|}

==== Curfew ====

* Curfew is 23:00. This is driven by location permit. [https://wiki.why2025.org/Camprules#Noise] [https://wiki.why2025.org/FAQ#What_about_noise,_music_and_such?]
* Party area will switch to a camp-wide silent disco at 23:00. Some explanation on how this works here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYR5NEg8sHY&t=830s].
* PL don't wanna play police through team safety. Overshooting 23:00 by 10-15mins ok, fine but don't test the limits.
** There's no real measurable "This is loud/This is quiet" level as then you get into - how is this measured, from what distance, in which direction, with which equipment.
** So it's gonna be a vibe check.
*** Please demonstrate excellence and work towards finishing your set around 23:00 with margin for error.
** Note that the wiki says no LOUD music so the implication is that some music is fine but we will likely have to turn it down significantly.

==== Planning ====

'''Rules: if it's a list it means nothing. If it's a table it means we ordered this/it's coming/it's confirmed.'''

Here is the idea for the dome/music:
* we take the [[Dome]]
* we put the lights, music and fog machines in it
* maybe some seating on the sides
* we add camo nets and fake plants hanging from the dome
* we end up with a jungle music dome
* we need jungle dome [I'm afraid]

What we have and MAY bring, needs coordinating:
* mcfly has a [https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/32787921000.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2pol shehds dmx controler]
* ✅ Lorphos WILL bring a <abbr title="Reloop Terminal Mix 8 with balanced 6.3mm TR jacks and RCA for master out and RCA booth out, needs laptop to operate">DJ controller</abbr>, a dj headset and a disco ball light with DMX512.
* cqc thought about maybe making a disco ball that looks like the WHY logo
* mcfly has an [https://www.highlite.com/en/50807-net-2-3-pocket.html artnet dmx controller]

===== Questions for the meeting / things we need / outstanding problems =====
* we need eurocrates to store nets plants for future events, have we ordered those?
** Meeting 2025-07-06: not ordering yet, we will see what the financial situation is after why
* "We need to do a CfP for deco and art for our village. " is this still relevant?
** maybe do something on day 1?
* dj table how large?
* [[Why 2025 art and beauty#Painting/Signage|Sign and booth painting supplies]]
* the noise rules are abysmal

===== Fixtures we will have from 250722 meeting with mc.fly =====
* 20 pars?
** 12-16x outdoor PARs RGBWA-UV 18x18W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008567036434.html
* 5 bars
** 5x bars indoor RGBWA-UV 18x18W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000112732451.html
* 6 moving heads
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33044876126.html
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006165502030.html
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32848251342.html
* 2x blinders
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004930079185.html
* Disco ball
** 40cm disco ball and spinner
* mounting clamps
** 24x https://www.thomann.nl/manfrotto_035_super_clamp_24pcs.htm
* RGB crystal magic ball (DMX) 1x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006565214937.html
* ArtNet adapter
** mc.fly bringing https://www.thomann.nl/showtec_net_2_3_pocket.htm
* Avo Quartz lighting desk (from Infinity)

====== Still needed as of 250722: ======
* Mounting Clamps: 1x more set of 24x https://www.thomann.nl/manfrotto_035_super_clamp_24pcs.htm
** do these need extra bolts to connect to the base of the fixture to the clamp?
* Power Cables
** powercon, build or buy
** more schuko multitaps
** more schuko extension cables
* DMX
** buy premade

====Music setup checklist====
* ✅ Sound System: Fame Audio Discovery 15+18 Stage 4 - Set
* ✅ Main mixer: X32 digital mixer with 16 XLR preamp (very kindly provided by Infinity553)
* Long XLR balanced cables to connect mixer to sound system (need to check if they’re included with the sound system)
* ✅ <abbr title="Reloop Terminal Mix 8 with balanced 6.3mm TR jacks and RCA for master out and RCA booth out, needs laptop to operate">DJ controller</abbr> with XLR cables 3m
* ✅ DJ-style headphones
* ✅ Cable protection (ramps or tape): cables can simply be attached to the dome so they won't be on the ground
* Large table for gear and mixer (ideally supports two setups, for smooth switches)
* ✅ Sun cover for daytime sets, if any are planned: big white tarp for the dome ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ Emergency rain cover, quick to deploy: big white tarp for the dome ([[Weeze Storage]])
* Power strip and enough power supplies, with extra outlets on table (separate from sound system)
* Audio backup (e.g. USB with preloaded set — chrome'll handle it)
* Separate surface for DMX/lights/FX gear
* ✅ Power supply for lights and effects: a lot of power cables and power strips will come from storage
* For the music console location: If the mixer<>system XLR cables are long enough (about 15m?), we could place the console in front of the speakers, behind the crowd. This would remove the need for monitors and improve mixing quality. We can decide on site.

====Lighting and special effects setup checklist====
* ✅ DMX lights: unknown amount ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ DMX cables: unknown amount ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ Fog machines: being provided by Infinity and mcfly
* ✅ Fog machine juice
* ✅ DMX controller: Infinity is bringing a DMX console
* Power cables: cqc worries we don't have enough in storage?
* artnet to dmx?
* sign that says JUNGLE DOME
** [[User:Agb]] will handle painting, but sign needs a primer coat in advance
** [[Why 2025 art and beauty#Painting/Signage|Sign painting supplies]]

====What Infinity is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Type !! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Speakers || Fame Discovery || 2 || Active Speaker Set 2x 18"Sub 2x 15"Top || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Mixer || Behringer X32 || 1 || Tour Mixer for FOH || Not Waterproof!
|-
| DJ Deck || Denon Prime 4+ || 1 || Standalone DJ Console || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Lightdesk || Avo Quartz || 1 || Standalone DMX Console || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Cable || CEE 7/4 to True1 || 2 || Powercable for Speaker Sub/Top Splitter || CEE7/4 side is IP rated Plug
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 20m || 2 || Mixer > Speaker || None
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 20m || 2 || Booth > FOH || None
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 3m || 2 || Sub > Top || Connect top speakers when on Pole
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 15m || 2 || Sub > Top || Connect top speakers when mounted else where
|-
| Cable || Ethercon Spool 50m || 1 || DMX Controller > Artnetnode || None
|-
| Special effect || Fog machine || 1 || 600W ||
|-
|}

====What mcfly is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Type !! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Special effect || 1500W Fog Smoke Machine DMX RGB 24LED Stage Light Effect Remote Vertical Sprayer || 1 || ||
|-
| Artnet to DMX || Showtec NET-2/3 Pocket || 1 || ||
|-
|}

====What Lorphos is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Rgb Magic Ball Effect Light Dmx || 1 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006565214937.html ||
|-
|-
|}

====What was ordered to Obsidian's====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Cost (Euro) !! Who paid !! Notes !! Delivered?
|-
| Camo net (4m x 6m) || 10 || 225 || boreq || 2 kinds, 5 of each = 10 || ✅
|-
| Fake red flowers || 10 || 14 || boreq || 5 sets of 2 = 10 plant units || ✅
|-
| Fake purple flowers || 10 || 14 || boreq || 5 sets of 2 = 10 plant units || ✅
|-
| Fake ivy || 9 || 30 || boreq || 9 sets of 10m = 9 sets of 5 strings = 45 strings || ✅
|-
| Fake fern || 10 || 22 || boreq || 10 ferns || ✅
|-
| Fog machine juice 5l || 3 x 5l || 65 || boreq || Cameo CLFDJ5L Medium Density/Tool Time DJ Liquid for Smoke Machine || ✅
|-
| Zipties || 500 || 10 || boreq || 250x3 || ✅
|-
| Disco ball || 1 || ? || ? || ||
|-
| Glowsticks || 400 || 45 || boreq || ||
|-
| Earplugs || 100 || 15 || boreq || 100 pairs ||
|-
| Powercon connector || 20 || 30 || boreq || ||
|-
| Fog machine juice || 2 x 20l || 90 || boreq || ||
|-
| Powercon connector || 10 || 15 || boreq || ||
|-
|}

====What was ordered for Phrack====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Delivered?
|-
| PAR outdoor RGBWA-UV 18x18W || 6 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008567036434.html PowerCon, 3pDMX ||
|-
| spot moving head 60W RGBW || 4 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/33004809614.html IEC, 3pDMX||
|-
| vertical Smoke machine 1500W RGB || 1 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007886644419.html IEC, 3pDMX||
|-
| horizontal smoke machine 1500W || 2 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005009120378630.html IEC, 3pDMX ||
|-
| 6W laser || 2 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005009465593672.html PowerCon, 3pDMX||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 1m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 2m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 3m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 5m ||
|-
| Manfrotto clamp || ? || ||
|-
| Safety cable || ? || ||
|-
|}

====What is being brought from the storage? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Moved to Obsidian's? !! Moved to camp?
|-
| Tarp || 1 || The large white tarp for the dome || ||
|-
| [[Dome]] || 1 || || ||
|-
| Benches || ? || The dome benches || ||
|-
| DMX lights || ? || || ||
|-
| DMX cables || ? || || ||
|-
| Power cables || ? || cqc voiced concerns about their number || ||
|-
|}

====What is being built? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Completed?
|-
| Sign|| 1 || Sign that says "Jungle Dome" ||
|-
|}

====What is being organized and will be available but boreq lost control over where and when that is appearing etc? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! We have this?
|-
| Banner || 1 || Banner that says "Jungle Dome" ||
|-
| DJ table || 1 || Klapptheken possibly with a sink ||
|-
|}

=== Constructions ===
Headed by [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]]. 
'''Please remember''' This is a hackercamp, we should only plan for this if we have the people, plans and equipment in place to fulfill the request. 
We can not improvise any serious woodworking on-site at little to no notice.
====Intended Constructions====
* Infodesk
* Bar
* Kitchen
** Weather dependant; Flooring

It should go without saying, but to be sure; 
Don't teardown any constructions without approval from construction team.
Don't use excess lumber \ torn down constructions to build bonfires.

==== Lumber sourcing and storage ====
* Sourcing from [https://www.pontmeyer.nl/ PontMeyer]
* [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] has a space "close" to WHY terrain that can be used for storage and buildup of Milliways constructions for WHY.

=== Heaven ===
Headed by [[User:zornem | Zornem]]
Supported by [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]]

Getting the right volunteers in the right places at the right times has proved challenging in the past, which creates absolute chaos. 
Chaos is fine and all every now and again and certainly, it's to be expected at these events, but; in the one area we are known for, the one area we strive to deliver properly, our wonderful kitchen that provides delicious food by hardworking volunteers - is suffering due to this chaos.

How can we make this better?

* With our own heaven using something like the [https://engelsystem.de/ Engelsystem]? other ideas?
* Perhaps we can even link into and use or have volunteer shifts available in WHY's volunteer system for kitchen and - if we do our own stage - the heralding etc?
* Have a big whiteboard / blackboard into which people can add themselves. Pro: is super present and people can directly see what is still needed, best even if it's in the queue for the kitchen, so people can see the current status and spontaneously add themselves.

=== Logistics / Buildup / Teardown ===

* Sat 02.08 - We are taking things from storage and staging them closer to camp at Obsidian's
* Sun 03.08 - DAY -4
* Mon 04.08 - DAY -3
* Tue 05.08 - DAY -2 - if something isn't at Obsidian's at this point it won't get to camp - we are bringing things from Obsidian's to camp - Milliways Buildup 1
* Wed 06.08 - DAY -1 - Milliways Buildup 2
* Thu 07.08 - DAY 0 - Milliways Buildup 3
* Fri 08.08 - DAY 1
* Sat 09.08 - DAY 2
* Sun 10.08 - DAY 3
* Mon 11.08 - DAY 4
* Tue 12.08 - DAY 5
* Wed 13.08 - Teardown 1
* Thu 14.08 - Teardown 2

=== Freeside ===

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! What !! Who !! How much !! Note
|-
| Coleman shelter + 2 walls || cqc || 205 EUR|| Ordered to Obsidian's and delivered
|-
| Biergarten furniture || obsidian || de nada || included 1 beer table set for freeside in milliways order
|-
| 5x outdoor power strip || ilbelkyr || de nada || will be brought to camp
|-
| A few flags || boreq || de nada || will be brought to camp
|-
|}

== Vendors ==

* Groothandel (wholesale market) - sligro in Alkmaar
https://www.sligro.nl/vestigingen/alkmaar.html
* Brouwerij Hoop [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/f/fc/Prijslijst_2025_12_Korting.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
* Bier&co 2025 Pricelist
* Aanhangwagenbedrijf [http://www.vandeburgwal.nl/ van de Burgwal]
** Cooling Trailer
** €435
** Need to ask about second trailer
* [https://meijnetenten.nl/ Meijne Tenten]
** 5x15 army tent
** €256
** No Delivery/Drop-off - pickup only

Bier:
* Trinkgut https://www.trinkgut.de/markt/konopatzki
* Getraenke Janssen GmbH - +4928289039991

== Subvillages ==

* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:SSH_(Spanish_Speaking_Hackers) SSH]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Cluster:GR.A.P.P.A. GR.A.P.P.A.]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Cyber_Saiyan Cyber Saiyan]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:End_Summer_Camp End Summer Camp]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Metro_Olografix Metro Olografix]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:What_Hackers_J%C3%B6rn What Hackers Jörn]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:EMF EMF]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Freeside Freeside]
* Church of Cryptography
* Hardware Hacking Area
* RIPE NCC
* Italian Hacker Embassy
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Irish_Embassy Irish Embassy ]

==Infrastructure==

===[[Dome]]===

We will be using it for the organized events and music.

===Rummary Tent===

===5x15 Army tent hangout spot===

===[[Weeze_Storage]]===

==History==

Milliways has attended several hackercamps in NL;

*2022 [[MCH_2022|May Contain Hackers]]
*2017 [[SHA_2017|Still Hacking Anyway]]
*2013 [[OHM_2013|Observe. Hack. Make.]]
*2009 [[HAR_2009|Hacking At Random]]
*2005 [[WTH_2005|What The Hack]]

[[Category:why2025]]

WHY 2025

2025-07-28T16:23:12Z

Chrome:

{{Event
| Title = What Hackers Yearn 2025
| Description = The NL camp
| StartDate = 2025-08-08
| EndDate = 2025-08-12
| Location = [https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?params=52_41_28_N_4_44_47_E Geestmerambacht]
}}

==About==
[https://why2025.org/ What Hackers Yearn] is the dutch camp organised by [https://ifcat.org/ IFCAT]. 
WHY is the successor to MCH, SHA, OHM, etc.

==Recent News==
* The next Milliways orga meeting is on '''2025-07-20 at 19:00 UTC / 21:00 CET''' - [http://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi link].
* Tickets for WHY2025 are sold out. See [https://wiki.why2025.org/TicketSwap] and ask people in the Milliways channels if they have extra tickets.
* Add the Milliways event timeline to your calendar
** ICS is [https://calendar.milliways.info/public/WHY2025/ here]

==Communication==
Chat Communication for Milliways at WHY 2025 will be in a bridged room between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.

IRC: join #milliways-why2025 at irc.hackint.org
Matrix: join #why:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/#milliways-space:milliways.info)

We will attempt to keep this wiki page up to date with event orga changes and announcements as well as milliways updates and announcements.
The chat will have @room and/or @here notifications when large announcement \ updates are made to the wiki.

Further, there will be recurring jitsi meetings that will rise in frequency as time to the event ticks down.

==Travellers Info==
Add yourself as a participant on our [[why25-participants | Participants]] page. 
This list helps us with meal planning for our kitchen, gauging space needed at the site and feasability of our wild ideas!

=== Tickets ===
You could find them [https://tickets.why2025.org here] but they seem sold out now. See [https://wiki.why2025.org/TicketSwap] and ask people in Milliways channels if they have extra tickets.

=== What to bring? ===

Struggling with your pack list? Checkout Columbia19's excellent [https://github.com/Columbia19/Camping-Checklist camping list] and MacLemon's amazing [https://github.com/MacLemon/CongressChecklist Congress Checklist]. There is also the [https://wiki.why2025.org/What_to_bring official packing wiki page].

Tips:
* Don't let yourself get surprised by the weather, always pack for expected weather circumstances.
* Check the weather report regularly from at least a few weeks in advance until right up to your departure and change accordingly.
* A tarp is useful whether it rains or shines! ;)

Don't have camping gear for yourself? Watch this space - we may have something to offer for you!

=== When do I arrive? ===

Reference https://wiki.why2025.org/Timeline.

=== How do I find milliways? ===

Reference the official map https://map.why2025.org/.

=== Where do I find some other info? ===

Reference the official wiki https://wiki.why2025.org/.

=== milliways tents ===

we have a small ammount of tents that we'll bring with us. Maybe 5.

Add yourself if you need a tent:

# user #1
# Isabella (Z80Kitty)

==Plans==

Public Milliways Event Timeline is [https://calendar.milliways.info/public/WHY2025/ here]
Add it to your own calendar app!

===Day 0 - Thursday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====14:00 Welcome to Milliways!====
First camp? Confused about where to go or what to do? How does the kitchen work and what is Milliways anyway? Come get a tour of the village, find out what we're about and how to get involved here!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

===Day 1 - Friday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====14:00 Welcome to Milliways!====
First camp? Confused about where to go or what to do? How does the kitchen work and what is Milliways anyway? Come get a tour of the village, find out what we're about and how to get involved here!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

====Midnight Snack====

===Day 2 - Saturday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 PHRACK #72 RELEASE PARTY====
[https://haunted.computer/@phrack/114870139947457649 Free beer & PHRACK memorial b33r cup 🍻]

====Midnight Fries====

===Day 3 - Sunday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 Whiskyleaks====
Milliways' famous Whiskyleaks event;
Self organizing, repeating, turned into a legend. Many bottles arrive, none leave. Bring a bottle of your favourite whisky (or other spirits) and share it with other passionate drinkers. If you can’t bring a bottle, come along - bring one next time! We will start in the evening, the more exact time will appear here eventually.

====Midnight Fries====

===Day 4 - Monday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 SSH Retro Games====
Your event here?

====Midnight Snack====

===Day 5 - Tuesday===
====13:00 Milliways Meeting====
Want to find out how we run our village? How you can help either with our events or kitchen? Get your latest news on the goings on? Join us for our daily Village-Orga meeting!

====20:30 TBD====
Your event here?

===[[Challenge_coins|Coins]], Flags, Patches===

We have WHY themed [[Challenge_coins|challenge coins]] which are a nice souvenir available for a donation which helps us run Milliways, give you free beer etc. Ask the Milliways Infodesk or find someone who seems less confused than everyone else to get one.

We also have [[2025-flag-list|Milliways flags]] and Milliways patches available.

==Meetings==
Pads can be created under https://cpad.milliways.info/ Please link here when done.

1900 UTC / whatever that is in your timezone

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! When !! Where !! Type !! Description !! Notes
|-
| 2024-06-04 || emfcamp || meetup || a first meeting of interested participants ||
|-
| 2024-06-15 || Geestmerambacht || field day || first WHY2025 field day || [[WHY_2025_fieldday | read our notes]]
|-
| 2024-07-07 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Kickoff || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/view/bmr6Uu1+qwFSpwT9BeoMelbsZ6RlaBk0WSaFjCkmNG0/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-08-04 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+husak0eYk62ct5+wtLfKlWf/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-09-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || September Meeting || nothing of relevance, so no meeting minutes
|-
| 2024-10-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || October Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/FnLspvub47govb-jN0TkVX3V/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-11-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || November Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/gyi54e3nrJ8dMliGPpFtkhIB/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-12-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || December Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/SS60FKCoUIJuDCWNe7XypLW1/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2024-12-28 || [[38c3]] || meetup || WHY have a plan? || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/Sf1RsoCXPw3rBDTdMk0AHZui/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-01-05 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || January Meeting || none - all still wasted from 38c3
|-
| 2025-02-02 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || February Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/HCsjnP4BkMbAupMV42XVX0ON/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-03-09 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || March Meeting || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/hOoprw3ndoIUm-Dn7KpLcibp/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-04-06 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || April Meeting 1/2 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/WvV4lMwmSgh7HZE7YzitKJFP/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-04-20 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || April Meeting 2/2 || |
|-
| 2025-05-11 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || May Meeting 1/2 || |
|-
| 2025-05-18 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || May Meeting 2/2 ||
[https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/+kSxbKmdcAq0-hcEE1JA-s0-/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-01 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 1/3 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/HKy8wBu9l+xuxA3qcqk0rzRU/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-15 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 2/3 ||
[https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/Jp3Irj6do2XbOtu13S2JriHf/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-06-29 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || June Meeting 3/3 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/dkKFaRa8x+osIxucldEAdi+Y/ Meeting Minutes]
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| 2025-07-06 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 1/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/BuYPDIIJ72PNIe5cI5mx36o5/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-07-13 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 2/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/RakXYXj7wedz8Du1r00ZGybV/ Meeting Minutes]
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| 2025-07-20 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 3/4 || [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/VcO6wb83jB7gfwFIcsVlS4e-/ Meeting Minutes]
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| 2025-07-27 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || July Meeting 4/4 || | [https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/fGk7P+Su-5gQQS36JaKhf55i/ Meeting Minutes]
|-
| 2025-08-03 || [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] || orga || August Meeting (last remove before camp) || |
|-
| 2025-08-08 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 0 || |
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| 2025-08-09 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 1 || |
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| 2025-08-10 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 2 || |
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| 2025-08-11 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 3 || |
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| 2025-08-12 || onsite || orga || WHY Day 4 || |
|}

We meet in [https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways jitsi] on the first sunday of every month at 21:00 German Standard Time until April 2025. 
There will be bi-weekly (once every two weeks) meetings in April, May and June. 
There will be weekly meetings in July and Aug. 
There will be daily meetings during WHY.

== Teams ==
=== Call for Engagement - We want you! ===

We currently have a CfER (Call for Event-Reiseleitung) open! 
We are looking for:
* one or two more Archangels
** Organize volunteers in/around our village (and possibly stage)
** Link up with WHY orga Volunteer Team
* Bar manager
* Logistics team
** Truck from Weeze to WHY
** Loading \ Unloading
** Perhaps local pickup/dropoff of groceries/materials if scheduled delivery unavailable
* Buildup team (optional: Mgr)
** Be onsite, from latest Day 0 - Thurs 7th Aug (prefer Day -2 Tues 5th), helping with Milliways buildup (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
** Understand what needs to be built, where and how.
** Help unload Storage truck
* Teardown team
** Be onsite, until latest Day 6 - Wed 13th Aug, helping with Milliways teardown (Dome, Kitchen, Rummery, etc)
** Understand what needs to be packed up, where and how.
** Make sure everything packed is at least clean (can't promise dry, that is weather dependent)
** Help load storage truck
* Treasurer
* Social Media Manager (hanemile might claim this as part of the infodesk if nobody else does)
** Keep our Mastadon up to date with events (Talks/Worksshop/Entertainment)
** Retoot interesting orga, sub village, individual stuff, boost mentions etc
* Music!
** We need DJs for evenings!
*** Feel free to add yourself to [[#Sets]] or post in https://matrix.to/#/#art-beauty:milliways.info.

===Event Reiseleitung===
Find yourself in need of someone kinda official to talk to about something Milliways specific for WHY? Look no further than this list!
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Role !! Name !! understudy 1 !! understudy 2
|-
| WHY Orga contact || [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Archangel || [[User:Zornem | Zornem]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Archangel || [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Infodesk || [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Constructions || [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Deco (Art \ Light \ Interactive) || [[User:boreq | boreq]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Noise (music, DJs) || <yourname> || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Power + Midnight snack || [[User:cqc | cqc]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || [[User:mc.fly | McFly]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || emerson || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Beer Orga || [[User:cy | cy]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Stage Team || [[User:kraln | kraln]] || tbd. || tbd.
|-
| Stage Team (Technical) || [[User:firel0x | firel0x]] || tbd. || tbd.
|}

=== Kitchen ===
*Manager needed
The difference in having our own dedicated dishwashing station (at at least, access to freshwater and waste through rotating [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_bulk_container IBCs] or similar) at CCCamp23 vs using public facilities at EMF was apparant and frustrating to all. We hold up the dishwashing queue for individuals, families and smaller villages which is not a great experience and we can't efficiently or correctly clean our equipment because of lack of space, warm water etc. It would be great if we could have our own dedicated space at WHY 2025.

Instead of relying on volunteer kitchen managers, our idea is to have a professional Chef/Cook/Kitchen Manager paid by Milliways to head up the Kitchen. We then need to look for a Milliways Kitchen Manager accustomed to organizing volunteers and other hackercamp event stuff to liasie between our kitchen, our archangels and event.

=== Bar ===

=== Infodesk ===
Headed by [[User:hanemile | Hanemile]]. 
Like at CCCamp23, have an infodesk with...

* info on Milliways content (talks/workshops/whats happening when?)
* lost&found (we've got a box with stuff™)
* directions (people tend to get lost)
* weather (water && sunscreen distribution)
* mealtimes and meal info
* volunteer signup (in coordination with the archangels)
* coins!
* stickers
* music
* and more (something always pops up)!

From an online perspective, it would be nice to have "The Internet" accessible from within the infodesk. Though most information on site is consumed via black or whiteboards.

Setup: the ccc-camp style "hut" was amazing, having a roof against rain and sun is essential.

=== Team Beer ===

The team is [[User:cy|cy]], [[User:ljrk|lj-rk]] and [[User:mc.fly | mc.fly]]

Sponsor a keg list: [[Why2026-beer]]

We want to make the Beer tap great again.

For that we plan to orgainze german (and maybe dutch) Beers at the camp.

Further beers are welcome.
* Brouwerij Hoop [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/f/fc/Prijslijst_2025_12_Korting.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
** Prefers 2-4day notice for orders
** Cannot deliver to WHY, pickup only.
* Bier&co [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/b/b6/Prijslijst_Bier%26cO_01-01-2025_-_HAP_Kern.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
** Prefers 7-10day notice for orders
** Can deliver to WHY

We'll have all the tap heads that exist to make sure we can tap everything properly.

If you want to bring a beer keg please talk to us.

=== Power ===
Lead: cqc

As of 2207 there are no requirements and no plan, but we should be good based on cccamp23 stock in storage?

Coordinating additional cabling purchases for jungle dome lighting install to supplement, as we do not have the miketango supplies from cccamp23.

=== Water ===

We don't know what the water connection situation is.

=== Art & Beauty ===

[[File:Jungledome.png | 800px | link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclaXQWVRCg]]

Discussion takes place here https://matrix.to/#/#art-beauty:milliways.info.

==== Sets ====

Feel free to add yourself here if you want to play music at some point. There are things happening on some evenings e.g. Whiskyleaks which may influence your choice, see [[#Plans]]. Talk to boreq to try to figure out scheduling.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Who !! Start
|-
| nspace + cyanpencil for the phrack party || Day 2, Saturday, 20:00 - 22:00?
|-
| chrome || Day 21.00 > 23.00 or 22.00 > 24.00?
|-
| coderobe || needs scheduling
|-
| Lorphos || needs scheduling
|-
| altrona || needs scheduling
|-
|}

==== Curfew ====

* Curfew is 23:00. This is driven by location permit. [https://wiki.why2025.org/Camprules#Noise] [https://wiki.why2025.org/FAQ#What_about_noise,_music_and_such?]
* Party area will switch to a camp-wide silent disco at 23:00. Some explanation on how this works here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYR5NEg8sHY&t=830s].
* PL don't wanna play police through team safety. Overshooting 23:00 by 10-15mins ok, fine but don't test the limits.
** There's no real measurable "This is loud/This is quiet" level as then you get into - how is this measured, from what distance, in which direction, with which equipment.
** So it's gonna be a vibe check.
*** Please demonstrate excellence and work towards finishing your set around 23:00 with margin for error.
** Note that the wiki says no LOUD music so the implication is that some music is fine but we will likely have to turn it down significantly.

==== Planning ====

'''Rules: if it's a list it means nothing. If it's a table it means we ordered this/it's coming/it's confirmed.'''

Here is the idea for the dome/music:
* we take the [[Dome]]
* we put the lights, music and fog machines in it
* maybe some seating on the sides
* we add camo nets and fake plants hanging from the dome
* we end up with a jungle music dome
* we need jungle dome [I'm afraid]

What we have and MAY bring, needs coordinating:
* mcfly has a [https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/32787921000.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2pol shehds dmx controler]
* ✅ Lorphos WILL bring a <abbr title="Reloop Terminal Mix 8 with balanced 6.3mm TR jacks and RCA for master out and RCA booth out, needs laptop to operate">DJ controller</abbr>, a dj headset and a disco ball light with DMX512.
* cqc thought about maybe making a disco ball that looks like the WHY logo
* mcfly has an [https://www.highlite.com/en/50807-net-2-3-pocket.html artnet dmx controller]

===== Questions for the meeting / things we need / outstanding problems =====
* we need eurocrates to store nets plants for future events, have we ordered those?
** Meeting 2025-07-06: not ordering yet, we will see what the financial situation is after why
* "We need to do a CfP for deco and art for our village. " is this still relevant?
** maybe do something on day 1?
* dj table how large?
* [[Why 2025 art and beauty#Painting/Signage|Sign and booth painting supplies]]
* the noise rules are abysmal

===== Fixtures we will have from 250722 meeting with mc.fly =====
* 20 pars?
** 12-16x outdoor PARs RGBWA-UV 18x18W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008567036434.html
* 5 bars
** 5x bars indoor RGBWA-UV 18x18W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000112732451.html
* 6 moving heads
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33044876126.html
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006165502030.html
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32848251342.html
* 2x blinders
** 2x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004930079185.html
* Disco ball
** 40cm disco ball and spinner
* mounting clamps
** 24x https://www.thomann.nl/manfrotto_035_super_clamp_24pcs.htm
* RGB crystal magic ball (DMX) 1x https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006565214937.html
* ArtNet adapter
** mc.fly bringing https://www.thomann.nl/showtec_net_2_3_pocket.htm
* Avo Quartz lighting desk (from Infinity)

====== Still needed as of 250722: ======
* Mounting Clamps: 1x more set of 24x https://www.thomann.nl/manfrotto_035_super_clamp_24pcs.htm
** do these need extra bolts to connect to the base of the fixture to the clamp?
* Power Cables
** powercon, build or buy
** more schuko multitaps
** more schuko extension cables
* DMX
** buy premade

====Music setup checklist====
* ✅ Sound System: Fame Audio Discovery 15+18 Stage 4 - Set
* ✅ Main mixer: X32 digital mixer with 16 XLR preamp (very kindly provided by Infinity553)
* Long XLR balanced cables to connect mixer to sound system (need to check if they’re included with the sound system)
* ✅ <abbr title="Reloop Terminal Mix 8 with balanced 6.3mm TR jacks and RCA for master out and RCA booth out, needs laptop to operate">DJ controller</abbr> with XLR cables 3m
* ✅ DJ-style headphones
* ✅ Cable protection (ramps or tape): cables can simply be attached to the dome so they won't be on the ground
* Large table for gear and mixer (ideally supports two setups, for smooth switches)
* ✅ Sun cover for daytime sets, if any are planned: big white tarp for the dome ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ Emergency rain cover, quick to deploy: big white tarp for the dome ([[Weeze Storage]])
* Power strip and enough power supplies, with extra outlets on table (separate from sound system)
* Audio backup (e.g. USB with preloaded set — chrome'll handle it)
* Separate surface for DMX/lights/FX gear
* ✅ Power supply for lights and effects: a lot of power cables and power strips will come from storage
* For the music console location: If the mixer<>system XLR cables are long enough (about 15m?), we could place the console in front of the speakers, behind the crowd. This would remove the need for monitors and improve mixing quality. We can decide on site.

====Lighting and special effects setup checklist====
* ✅ DMX lights: unknown amount ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ DMX cables: unknown amount ([[Weeze Storage]])
* ✅ Fog machines: being provided by Infinity and mcfly
* ✅ Fog machine juice
* ✅ DMX controller: Infinity is bringing a DMX console
* Power cables: cqc worries we don't have enough in storage?
* artnet to dmx?
* sign that says JUNGLE DOME
** [[User:Agb]] will handle painting, but sign needs a primer coat in advance
** [[Why 2025 art and beauty#Painting/Signage|Sign painting supplies]]

====What Infinity is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Type !! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Speakers || Fame Discovery || 2 || Active Speaker Set 2x 18"Sub 2x 15"Top || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Mixer || Behringer X32 || 1 || Tour Mixer for FOH || Not Waterproof!
|-
| DJ Deck || Denon Prime 4+ || 1 || Standalone DJ Console || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Lightdesk || Avo Quartz || 1 || Standalone DMX Console || Not Waterproof!
|-
| Cable || CEE 7/4 to True1 || 2 || Powercable for Speaker Sub/Top Splitter || CEE7/4 side is IP rated Plug
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 20m || 2 || Mixer > Speaker || None
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 20m || 2 || Booth > FOH || None
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 3m || 2 || Sub > Top || Connect top speakers when on Pole
|-
| Cable || 3Pin XLR Audio 15m || 2 || Sub > Top || Connect top speakers when mounted else where
|-
| Cable || Ethercon Spool 50m || 1 || DMX Controller > Artnetnode || None
|-
| Special effect || Fog machine || 1 || 600W ||
|-
|}

====What mcfly is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Type !! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Special effect || 1500W Fog Smoke Machine DMX RGB 24LED Stage Light Effect Remote Vertical Sprayer || 1 || ||
|-
| Artnet to DMX || Showtec NET-2/3 Pocket || 1 || ||
|-
|}

====What Lorphos is providing====
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Description !! Notes
|-
| Rgb Magic Ball Effect Light Dmx || 1 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006565214937.html ||
|-
|-
|}

====What was ordered to Obsidian's====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Cost (Euro) !! Who paid !! Notes !! Delivered?
|-
| Camo net (4m x 6m) || 10 || 225 || boreq || 2 kinds, 5 of each = 10 || ✅
|-
| Fake red flowers || 10 || 14 || boreq || 5 sets of 2 = 10 plant units || ✅
|-
| Fake purple flowers || 10 || 14 || boreq || 5 sets of 2 = 10 plant units || ✅
|-
| Fake ivy || 9 || 30 || boreq || 9 sets of 10m = 9 sets of 5 strings = 45 strings || ✅
|-
| Fake fern || 10 || 22 || boreq || 10 ferns || ✅
|-
| Fog machine juice 5l || 3 x 5l || 65 || boreq || Cameo CLFDJ5L Medium Density/Tool Time DJ Liquid for Smoke Machine || ✅
|-
| Zipties || 500 || 10 || boreq || 250x3 || ✅
|-
| Disco ball || 1 || ? || ? || ||
|-
| Glowsticks || 400 || 45 || boreq || ||
|-
| Earplugs || 100 || 15 || boreq || 100 pairs ||
|-
| Powercon connector || 20 || 30 || boreq || ||
|-
| Fog machine juice || 2 x 20l || 90 || boreq || ||
|-
| Powercon connector || 10 || 15 || boreq || ||
|-
|}

====What was ordered for Phrack====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Delivered?
|-
| PAR outdoor RGBWA-UV 18x18W || 6 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008567036434.html PowerCon, 3pDMX ||
|-
| spot moving head 60W RGBW || 4 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/33004809614.html IEC, 3pDMX||
|-
| vertical Smoke machine 1500W RGB || 1 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007886644419.html IEC, 3pDMX||
|-
| horizontal smoke machine 1500W || 2 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005009120378630.html IEC, 3pDMX ||
|-
| 6W laser || 2 || https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005009465593672.html PowerCon, 3pDMX||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 1m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 2m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 3m ||
|-
| DMX cable || 10 || 5m ||
|-
| Manfrotto clamp || ? || ||
|-
| Safety cable || ? || ||
|-
|}

====What is being brought from the storage? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Moved to Obsidian's? !! Moved to camp?
|-
| Tarp || 1 || The large white tarp for the dome || ||
|-
| [[Dome]] || 1 || || ||
|-
| Benches || ? || The dome benches || ||
|-
| DMX lights || ? || || ||
|-
| DMX cables || ? || || ||
|-
| Power cables || ? || cqc voiced concerns about their number || ||
|-
|}

====What is being built? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! Completed?
|-
| Sign|| 1 || Sign that says "Jungle Dome" ||
|-
|}

====What is being organized and will be available but boreq lost control over where and when that is appearing etc? ====

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Name !! Amount !! Notes !! We have this?
|-
| Banner || 1 || Banner that says "Jungle Dome" ||
|-
| DJ table || 1 || Klapptheken possibly with a sink ||
|-
|}

=== Constructions ===
Headed by [[User:Junglerot | Junglerot]]. 
'''Please remember''' This is a hackercamp, we should only plan for this if we have the people, plans and equipment in place to fulfill the request. 
We can not improvise any serious woodworking on-site at little to no notice.
====Intended Constructions====
* Infodesk
* Bar
* Kitchen
** Weather dependant; Flooring

It should go without saying, but to be sure; 
Don't teardown any constructions without approval from construction team.
Don't use excess lumber \ torn down constructions to build bonfires.

==== Lumber sourcing and storage ====
* Sourcing from [https://www.pontmeyer.nl/ PontMeyer]
* [[User:Obsidian | Obsidian]] has a space "close" to WHY terrain that can be used for storage and buildup of Milliways constructions for WHY.

=== Heaven ===
Headed by [[User:zornem | Zornem]]
Supported by [[User:SleepyEntropy | SleepyEntropy]]

Getting the right volunteers in the right places at the right times has proved challenging in the past, which creates absolute chaos. 
Chaos is fine and all every now and again and certainly, it's to be expected at these events, but; in the one area we are known for, the one area we strive to deliver properly, our wonderful kitchen that provides delicious food by hardworking volunteers - is suffering due to this chaos.

How can we make this better?

* With our own heaven using something like the [https://engelsystem.de/ Engelsystem]? other ideas?
* Perhaps we can even link into and use or have volunteer shifts available in WHY's volunteer system for kitchen and - if we do our own stage - the heralding etc?
* Have a big whiteboard / blackboard into which people can add themselves. Pro: is super present and people can directly see what is still needed, best even if it's in the queue for the kitchen, so people can see the current status and spontaneously add themselves.

=== Logistics / Buildup / Teardown ===

* Sat 02.08 - We are taking things from storage and staging them closer to camp at Obsidian's
* Sun 03.08 - DAY -4
* Mon 04.08 - DAY -3
* Tue 05.08 - DAY -2 - if something isn't at Obsidian's at this point it won't get to camp - we are bringing things from Obsidian's to camp - Milliways Buildup 1
* Wed 06.08 - DAY -1 - Milliways Buildup 2
* Thu 07.08 - DAY 0 - Milliways Buildup 3
* Fri 08.08 - DAY 1
* Sat 09.08 - DAY 2
* Sun 10.08 - DAY 3
* Mon 11.08 - DAY 4
* Tue 12.08 - DAY 5
* Wed 13.08 - Teardown 1
* Thu 14.08 - Teardown 2

=== Freeside ===

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! What !! Who !! How much !! Note
|-
| Coleman shelter + 2 walls || cqc || 205 EUR|| Ordered to Obsidian's and delivered
|-
| Biergarten furniture || obsidian || de nada || included 1 beer table set for freeside in milliways order
|-
| 5x outdoor power strip || ilbelkyr || de nada || will be brought to camp
|-
| A few flags || boreq || de nada || will be brought to camp
|-
|}

== Vendors ==

* Groothandel (wholesale market) - sligro in Alkmaar
https://www.sligro.nl/vestigingen/alkmaar.html
* Brouwerij Hoop [https://wiki.milliways.info/images/f/fc/Prijslijst_2025_12_Korting.pdf 2025 Pricelist]
* Bier&co 2025 Pricelist
* Aanhangwagenbedrijf [http://www.vandeburgwal.nl/ van de Burgwal]
** Cooling Trailer
** €435
** Need to ask about second trailer
* [https://meijnetenten.nl/ Meijne Tenten]
** 5x15 army tent
** €256
** No Delivery/Drop-off - pickup only

Bier:
* Trinkgut https://www.trinkgut.de/markt/konopatzki
* Getraenke Janssen GmbH - +4928289039991

== Subvillages ==

* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:SSH_(Spanish_Speaking_Hackers) SSH]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Cluster:GR.A.P.P.A. GR.A.P.P.A.]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Cyber_Saiyan Cyber Saiyan]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:End_Summer_Camp End Summer Camp]
** [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Metro_Olografix Metro Olografix]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:What_Hackers_J%C3%B6rn What Hackers Jörn]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:EMF EMF]
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Freeside Freeside]
* Church of Cryptography
* Hardware Hacking Area
* RIPE NCC
* Italian Hacker Embassy
* [https://wiki.why2025.org/Village:Irish_Embassy Irish Embassy ]

==Infrastructure==

===[[Dome]]===

We will be using it for the organized events and music.

===Rummary Tent===

===5x15 Army tent hangout spot===

===[[Weeze_Storage]]===

==History==

Milliways has attended several hackercamps in NL;

*2022 [[MCH_2022|May Contain Hackers]]
*2017 [[SHA_2017|Still Hacking Anyway]]
*2013 [[OHM_2013|Observe. Hack. Make.]]
*2009 [[HAR_2009|Hacking At Random]]
*2005 [[WTH_2005|What The Hack]]

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