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CCCamp 2023

2023-03-31T06:29:56Z

Betz: /* Buildup/Teardown */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2023

the Chaos Communication Camp 2023 will be '''August 15 - 19 2023''' at the '''Ziegeleipark Mildenberg'''. Same location as CCC Camp 2015 and 2019

== recent news ==

* will be at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg again. Due to limited space there will be a difficult ticket situation
* next meeting: '''Tuesday Feb 21 at 20:00 CET''' at https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways (so says IRC #milliways-camp23)

== communication ==

Communication for the milliways cluster at the Chaos Communication Camp 2023 will be on a room that is bridged between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.

* '''IRC''': join #milliways-camp23 at irc.hackint.org
* '''Matrix''': join #camp23:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/!iPRTmLJGAARJMIXxiX:milliways.info?via=milliways.info&via=matrix.org&via=fairydust.space)

== coin ==

there will be one. details unclear yet.
Coin Order [[User:Cobolt]] [[User:mc.fly]]

== subvillages ==

=== [[camp2023-freeside|freeside]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so in the future. #freeside on hackint.

=== [[camp2023-scottish|scottish embassy]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. tj confirmed that they want to travel with us again.

=== [[camp2023-emfcamp|emfcamp]] ===
We're in.

=== [[camp2023-toorcamp|toorcamp]] ===
Toorcamp is in. Has traveled with milliways in the past.

=== [[camp2023-sigsegv|sigsegv]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. Scandinavians. :-)

=== [[camp2023-BeglianEmbassy|Belgian embassy]] / [[camp2023-HardwareHacking|Hardware Hacking area]] ===
Requires confirmation of commitment. Has traveled with milliways in the past.

===[[camp2023-IcelandicEmbassy|Icelandic embassy]]?===
Requires confirmation of commitment. Has traveled with milliways in the past.
Please remove this line if you want to commit to joining as a subvillage

=== [[camp2023-spanish-village|spanish village]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so :)

== travelers ==

[[CCCamp2023-voucher-queue|Voucher page]]

[[CCCamp2023-participants|Participant page]]

[[CCCamp_2023-hackers-on-a-plane|Hackers on a plane]] (DEFCON -> CCCAMP)

== teams ==

=== [[CCCamp_2023-TravelManagement|Milliways Travel Management]] ===

This is the group of people mostly organizing the cluster / village on the Chaos Communication Camp 2023.

* crew
** [[User:mc.fly]]
** [[User:hanemile]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-kitchen|Kitchen]] ===

* about 500 meals/day
* three stage (prep backend, serving frontend, washing station)
* crew
** Main Kitchen
*** SuperQ
*** Nina
*** [[User:Will Scott]]
*** [[User:Kite]]
*** [[User:sharebrained]]
*** [[User:macker]]
*** marcin

** Bakery
*** [[User:cookinggroffa]]
*** [[User:macker]]
*** [[User:sharebrained]]
*** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
*** marcin

=== [[CCCamp_2023-buildup|Buildup/Teardown]] ===

'''THE MORE PEOPLE THE BETTER: ADD YOURSELF !!!'''

* Transport (we need to get stuff from Unna (Hemmerde) to Mildenberg)
** you'll need a C license. B is only valid for 7.5t (3.5 if youre 41 or younger)
** ~5 hours by car
** [[User:Blmt]] could legally drive. Haven't driven trucks in some time though (it may take a bit longer).
* Buildup crew
** [[User:Salt]] (depending on flights)
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Betz]]
* Teardown crew
** [[User:Salt]] (depending on flights)
** [[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Cobolt]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-infodesk|Infodesk]] ===

* secretary
* social media
* heaven
* crew
** [[User:Hanemile]]
** [[User:Cy]]
** [[User:Cobolt]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-power-net|Power + Network]] ===

* crew
** [[User:coderobe]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:mirsal]]
** shadow

* should communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de once its possible (together with water team)

=== water team ===
** shadow

* should communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de once its possible (together with power/network team)

=== [[CCCamp_2023-art-of-light-decoration|art of light and decoration]] ===
* task - make milliways awesome & colorful
** setting up the decoration and the lights.

** make Art & Beauty at milliways.

kinda requirement; Be on site at least 2 days early.

Topics at the moment: Decorations, PAR, light fixtures, DMX, programming the light with DMX...

* crew
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Armin]]
** shadow
** Add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-content|Content]] ===

* Managing the content on the stage.
* Handling the CFP and the resulting Fahrplan
* we might want to get the manege / amphitheater thing

crew
** Main: [[User:Ilja]], [[User:Erik]], [[User:Mc.fly]]
** Backup/Interested: [[User:Hanemile]], [[User:Cy]], [[User:Cobolt]], Shadow, awtnmy

=== [[CCCamp_2023-Hardware_Hacking_Area | Hardware Hacking Area]] ===

* Organize the Hardware Hacking Area infrastructure
* crew
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Cobolt]] I have a motorcycle loom and ECU hacking project I should be in the middle of would be cool to show this off.
*** nice, I'd love to know more, let's meet at camp sometime ~[[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:Betz]]
** add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-train | Train]] ===

* Organize some kind of vehicle that can be used to transport stuff via the on-site railway infrastructure
* crew
** add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-music | Music]] ===

* the music itself

* crew
** [[User:coderobe]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-beer | Beer]] ===

* Team beer organizes, well... beer.
* gets local beer contact from mc.fly (100dreds of different kegs)
* Should be able to have german phone-calls
* keep an eye on who sponsors what keg
* crew
** [[User:Cobolt]] happy to help figure this out
** [[User:Ljrk]] + possibly their gf
** Saluber
** Add yourselves here!

== Free Beer ==

Free software contains elements of free speech and free beer.

While the free speech part is done in the content of the camp we look for free beer.

That works that people and groups of people donate a keg of beer together.

We need the beer keg list from the beer vendor and start asking people what they want.

[[CCCamp2023-beer-list|The free beer list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

=== beer vendor ===
[[CCCamp_2023-kitchen#Beer]]

== milliways cyber circus ==

milliways wants to run a stage.

* would like to run a stage around 200 people.
* for talks together with other villages, like HiP
* hacking / technical talks
* we have a dream, an idea, no contracts signed.
* <tl/dr> we would like to make a manege.
* https://milliways.social/@mcfly/109678808780331782
* would join a CFP, seperate content teams and a talk sharing system.
* mc.fly, Ilja, maltman23, hanemile, pandora, ijrk

== infrastructure ==

=== HoBo Tents ===

on camp 2015 + 2019 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

=== Bierzeltgarnituren ===

=== Power & Network ===

== Meetings ==

* Upcoming meetings
** Meeting's take place in the Milliways Jitsi: '''https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways'''
** For now, all dates are on '''Tuesdays'''
** See the [[CCCamp_2023#communication| Communications]] Section for instant-communication services

Dates

* feb - april monthly
* april - july bi-weekly
* july - camp weekly

We're still figuring out a weekday, as soon we've got it the next meeting will be on that weekday in the time period of 2022-02-13 - 2022-02-19. We'll announce it and the date and agenda will be here:

=== January Meeting (2023-01-21 20:00) ===

* General "kick off"
* https://cpad.milliways.info/pad/#/2/pad/edit/IL7mlowjQ54VCSi+Q+LA6pcs/

=== February Meeting (2023-02-21 20:00) ===

* Any essential teams missing? Should we make a larger "call for team people" or so?
* Communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de
* update channel topic to show next meeting

[[CCCamp-2023-February-Meeting-Notes]]

https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/P+JhLDxh+wEunVMxnyd259uk/

=== March Meeting (2023-03-21 20:00) ===

* setup pretalx for CfP
* update channel topic to show next meeting
* open QUestions from february meeting
** decorations team
** power / network
** update on the manege situation

https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp-2023-March-Meeting-Notes

=== April Meeting (2023-04-18 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== May Meeting 1 (2023-05-09 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== May Meeting 2 (2023-05-23 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== June Meeting 1 (2023-06-06 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== June Meeting 2 (2023-06-20 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 1 (2023-07-04 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 2 (2023-07-11 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 3 (2023-07-18 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 4 (2023-07-25 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== August Meeting 1 (2023-08-01 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== August Meeting 2 (2023-08-08 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meet... wait, no, the next meeting is at CAMP!

=== Daily On-Camp -3 (2023-08-12 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp -2 (2023-08-13 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp -1 (2023-08-14 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 0 (2023-08-15 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 1 (2023-08-16 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 2 (2023-08-17 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 3 (2023-08-18 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 4 (2023-08-19 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 4 (2023-08-19 14:00) ===

== crazy ideas ==

=== The Milliways cyber circus - The Manege ===

* Plan A - said its complicated, does not answer anymore

<s>https://www.firmatraktor.com/de-tenten/item/opticum</s>

* Plan B - said no spiegeltents availible

<s>https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace</s>

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

=== workshops ===

*space
** we probably have space, if tEURcamp brings their dome and we bring ours.

*content
** we are the "content team," in that we approve the workshops, but we can still get our workshops on the big schedule everyone can see. This has worked before.
** We've also had luck with last-minute workshops, using chalkboard and infodesk to get outside presenters to sign up.

=== Biiiicycles ===

* Cargo bike?
* Bikesharing system?
** [[User:Hanemile]]

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.
=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Ada's Café ===
taken from the 2019 wiki page.

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?
* [https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Projects:Coffee:_Ada%27s_Cafe CCCamp Project Page]

h1kar1 and sharebrained have state on how we did espresso in 2019. It involved a rented machine and some improvised plumbing to run it from bottled water.

People maybe interested in doing 
* fellmoon?
* snoopy?
* h1kari?
* superq?
* willscott?
* [[User:Ljrk]]

=== Accept cryptocurrency ===

This was tried in a halfass way long ago at a congress, but nobody opted to pay this way. Software has changed in the decade since then.

* Bitcoin and Ethereum both have L2 networks (Lightning and zkSync) that lower transaction fees and settle in <10min. At congress in ~2018 or so, a vendor was selling coffee via bitcoin lightning to prove the value of L2. Normally fees would be high compared to the price of a coffee, and the chain would take much longer to commit than it takes to make the coffee, but L2 solves this.
* Ethereum no longer has any weather veganism issues because of proof-of-stake, and
* there are many aggressively-funded slick closed source phone apps (for better or worse).
* Also Monero, a privacy preserving cryptocurrency, with real FLOSS & cypherpunk ethos.

We could make a comforting point-of-sale system installed on a physical device that stays in Ada Cafe that can display a per-purchase QR code. This is not to sell espresso, which would still be free, but for donations.

People maybe interested in doing 
* carton
* [[User:don|trimetilo]] (Interested in exploring the feasibility of using an Ethereum L2).
* [[User:Cobolt]] (Could be willing to act as a currency converter from BTC to EUR/GBP/USD if this is required)
* **vdo** (Monero PoS)

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful and Ada Colau Alcaldesa Barcelona

=== Hammock Forrest ===

Idea: [[User:Hanemile]]

Seen the hammock things with one center pole and a lot of side poles spanning the hammocks in a sort of star form? Well let's do this, but at another scale by adding some more.

* What we'd need:
** A lot of hammocks
** A lot of wood (to build frames)

CCCamp 2023

2023-03-31T06:29:03Z

Betz: /* Hardware Hacking Area */

wiki page for Chaos Communication Camp 2023

the Chaos Communication Camp 2023 will be '''August 15 - 19 2023''' at the '''Ziegeleipark Mildenberg'''. Same location as CCC Camp 2015 and 2019

== recent news ==

* will be at the Ziegeleipark Mildenberg again. Due to limited space there will be a difficult ticket situation
* next meeting: '''Tuesday Feb 21 at 20:00 CET''' at https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways (so says IRC #milliways-camp23)

== communication ==

Communication for the milliways cluster at the Chaos Communication Camp 2023 will be on a room that is bridged between irc and matrix. Both rooms have the same information.

* '''IRC''': join #milliways-camp23 at irc.hackint.org
* '''Matrix''': join #camp23:milliways.info (and of course the milliways space: https://matrix.to/#/!iPRTmLJGAARJMIXxiX:milliways.info?via=milliways.info&via=matrix.org&via=fairydust.space)

== coin ==

there will be one. details unclear yet.
Coin Order [[User:Cobolt]] [[User:mc.fly]]

== subvillages ==

=== [[camp2023-freeside|freeside]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so in the future. #freeside on hackint.

=== [[camp2023-scottish|scottish embassy]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. tj confirmed that they want to travel with us again.

=== [[camp2023-emfcamp|emfcamp]] ===
We're in.

=== [[camp2023-toorcamp|toorcamp]] ===
Toorcamp is in. Has traveled with milliways in the past.

=== [[camp2023-sigsegv|sigsegv]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. Scandinavians. :-)

=== [[camp2023-BeglianEmbassy|Belgian embassy]] / [[camp2023-HardwareHacking|Hardware Hacking area]] ===
Requires confirmation of commitment. Has traveled with milliways in the past.

===[[camp2023-IcelandicEmbassy|Icelandic embassy]]?===
Requires confirmation of commitment. Has traveled with milliways in the past.
Please remove this line if you want to commit to joining as a subvillage

=== [[camp2023-spanish-village|spanish village]] ===
Has traveled with milliways in the past. Will continue to do so :)

== travelers ==

[[CCCamp2023-voucher-queue|Voucher page]]

[[CCCamp2023-participants|Participant page]]

[[CCCamp_2023-hackers-on-a-plane|Hackers on a plane]] (DEFCON -> CCCAMP)

== teams ==

=== [[CCCamp_2023-TravelManagement|Milliways Travel Management]] ===

This is the group of people mostly organizing the cluster / village on the Chaos Communication Camp 2023.

* crew
** [[User:mc.fly]]
** [[User:hanemile]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-kitchen|Kitchen]] ===

* about 500 meals/day
* three stage (prep backend, serving frontend, washing station)
* crew
** Main Kitchen
*** SuperQ
*** Nina
*** [[User:Will Scott]]
*** [[User:Kite]]
*** [[User:sharebrained]]
*** [[User:macker]]
*** marcin

** Bakery
*** [[User:cookinggroffa]]
*** [[User:macker]]
*** [[User:sharebrained]]
*** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
*** marcin

=== [[CCCamp_2023-buildup|Buildup/Teardown]] ===

'''THE MORE PEOPLE THE BETTER: ADD YOURSELF !!!'''

* Transport (we need to get stuff from Unna (Hemmerde) to Mildenberg)
** you'll need a C license. B is only valid for 7.5t (3.5 if youre 41 or younger)
** ~5 hours by car
** [[User:Blmt]] could legally drive. Haven't driven trucks in some time though (it may take a bit longer).
* Buildup crew
** [[User:Salt]] (depending on flights)
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Firel0x]]
* Teardown crew
** [[User:Salt]] (depending on flights)
** [[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Cobolt]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-infodesk|Infodesk]] ===

* secretary
* social media
* heaven
* crew
** [[User:Hanemile]]
** [[User:Cy]]
** [[User:Cobolt]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-power-net|Power + Network]] ===

* crew
** [[User:coderobe]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]
** [[User:mirsal]]
** shadow

* should communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de once its possible (together with water team)

=== water team ===
** shadow

* should communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de once its possible (together with power/network team)

=== [[CCCamp_2023-art-of-light-decoration|art of light and decoration]] ===
* task - make milliways awesome & colorful
** setting up the decoration and the lights.

** make Art & Beauty at milliways.

kinda requirement; Be on site at least 2 days early.

Topics at the moment: Decorations, PAR, light fixtures, DMX, programming the light with DMX...

* crew
** [[User:Firel0x]]
** [[User:Armin]]
** shadow
** Add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-content|Content]] ===

* Managing the content on the stage.
* Handling the CFP and the resulting Fahrplan
* we might want to get the manege / amphitheater thing

crew
** Main: [[User:Ilja]], [[User:Erik]], [[User:Mc.fly]]
** Backup/Interested: [[User:Hanemile]], [[User:Cy]], [[User:Cobolt]], Shadow, awtnmy

=== [[CCCamp_2023-Hardware_Hacking_Area | Hardware Hacking Area]] ===

* Organize the Hardware Hacking Area infrastructure
* crew
** [[User:maltman23]]
** [[User:Cobolt]] I have a motorcycle loom and ECU hacking project I should be in the middle of would be cool to show this off.
*** nice, I'd love to know more, let's meet at camp sometime ~[[User:hanemile]]
** [[User:Betz]]
** add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-train | Train]] ===

* Organize some kind of vehicle that can be used to transport stuff via the on-site railway infrastructure
* crew
** add yourself here :D

=== [[CCCamp_2023-music | Music]] ===

* the music itself

* crew
** [[User:coderobe]]
** [[User:sleepyentropy]]

=== [[CCCamp_2023-beer | Beer]] ===

* Team beer organizes, well... beer.
* gets local beer contact from mc.fly (100dreds of different kegs)
* Should be able to have german phone-calls
* keep an eye on who sponsors what keg
* crew
** [[User:Cobolt]] happy to help figure this out
** [[User:Ljrk]] + possibly their gf
** Saluber
** Add yourselves here!

== Free Beer ==

Free software contains elements of free speech and free beer.

While the free speech part is done in the content of the camp we look for free beer.

That works that people and groups of people donate a keg of beer together.

We need the beer keg list from the beer vendor and start asking people what they want.

[[CCCamp2023-beer-list|The free beer list page]]. This is for people that consider donating a keg.

The price for a keg will be around 100-150eur.

=== beer vendor ===
[[CCCamp_2023-kitchen#Beer]]

== milliways cyber circus ==

milliways wants to run a stage.

* would like to run a stage around 200 people.
* for talks together with other villages, like HiP
* hacking / technical talks
* we have a dream, an idea, no contracts signed.
* <tl/dr> we would like to make a manege.
* https://milliways.social/@mcfly/109678808780331782
* would join a CFP, seperate content teams and a talk sharing system.
* mc.fly, Ilja, maltman23, hanemile, pandora, ijrk

== infrastructure ==

=== HoBo Tents ===

on camp 2015 + 2019 we had hobo tents - they worked awesome.

It would be nice if we can get some more of that type.

Example (rummerytent)

https://www.boutiquecamping.com/tents-c1/7m-sandstone-canvas-bell-tent-quad-door-p1142

=== Bierzeltgarnituren ===

=== Power & Network ===

== Meetings ==

* Upcoming meetings
** Meeting's take place in the Milliways Jitsi: '''https://jitsi.milliways.info/milliways'''
** For now, all dates are on '''Tuesdays'''
** See the [[CCCamp_2023#communication| Communications]] Section for instant-communication services

Dates

* feb - april monthly
* april - july bi-weekly
* july - camp weekly

We're still figuring out a weekday, as soon we've got it the next meeting will be on that weekday in the time period of 2022-02-13 - 2022-02-19. We'll announce it and the date and agenda will be here:

=== January Meeting (2023-01-21 20:00) ===

* General "kick off"
* https://cpad.milliways.info/pad/#/2/pad/edit/IL7mlowjQ54VCSi+Q+LA6pcs/

=== February Meeting (2023-02-21 20:00) ===

* Any essential teams missing? Should we make a larger "call for team people" or so?
* Communicate Water, Power and Dirtwater needs to camp23 at c3assemblies.de
* update channel topic to show next meeting

[[CCCamp-2023-February-Meeting-Notes]]

https://cpad.milliways.info/code/#/2/code/edit/P+JhLDxh+wEunVMxnyd259uk/

=== March Meeting (2023-03-21 20:00) ===

* setup pretalx for CfP
* update channel topic to show next meeting
* open QUestions from february meeting
** decorations team
** power / network
** update on the manege situation

https://wiki.milliways.info/index.php?title=CCCamp-2023-March-Meeting-Notes

=== April Meeting (2023-04-18 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== May Meeting 1 (2023-05-09 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== May Meeting 2 (2023-05-23 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== June Meeting 1 (2023-06-06 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== June Meeting 2 (2023-06-20 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 1 (2023-07-04 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 2 (2023-07-11 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 3 (2023-07-18 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== July Meeting 4 (2023-07-25 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== August Meeting 1 (2023-08-01 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meeting

=== August Meeting 2 (2023-08-08 20:00) ===

- update channel topic to show next meet... wait, no, the next meeting is at CAMP!

=== Daily On-Camp -3 (2023-08-12 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp -2 (2023-08-13 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp -1 (2023-08-14 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 0 (2023-08-15 14:00) ===
=== Daily On-Camp 1 (2023-08-16 14:00) ===
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== crazy ideas ==

=== The Milliways cyber circus - The Manege ===

* Plan A - said its complicated, does not answer anymore

<s>https://www.firmatraktor.com/de-tenten/item/opticum</s>

* Plan B - said no spiegeltents availible

<s>https://www.spiegeltent.be/mirrortent/cristal-palace</s>

=== dutch market stands ===
https://www.marktkraamverhuur.nl/-/marktkramen/marktkraam-4-meter-huren/ (this is an example link, ignre the price)

this is a dutch market stand that dasbrot also uses. We can rent some for little money. 3m version works in a sprinter.

Good for hackcenter / food / talking while it rains, Numbers of 4-10 are realistic

=== workshops ===

*space
** we probably have space, if tEURcamp brings their dome and we bring ours.

*content
** we are the "content team," in that we approve the workshops, but we can still get our workshops on the big schedule everyone can see. This has worked before.
** We've also had luck with last-minute workshops, using chalkboard and infodesk to get outside presenters to sign up.

=== Biiiicycles ===

* Cargo bike?
* Bikesharing system?
** [[User:Hanemile]]

=== high rotating milliways sign ===

a sign, very high, on a mast pole. to show where milliways is.

Idea: valka, mc.fly

Need more signs and a rotating motor.
=== black in black spaceship ===

a black spaceship.

=== milliways logo projection in batman bat signal style ===

Idea: FellMoon

Spotlight 1200W with "A-Gobo" available, but i'd opt for a vectoring lazer.

=== milliways train ===

As its in the brick museum again i'd love to have a train.

Background: The Ziegeleipark Mildenberg has a narrow gauge train track that was used last year. I would like to have our own milliways vehicle that can transport some few people but for sure goods from entrance to milliways.

Idea mc.fly

awtnmy - Interested in helping construction / welding - Pidgey suggested he would be too

=== Ada's Café ===
taken from the 2019 wiki page.

Milliways will have a small Café-alike relaxed area, providing shade, where people can get coffee/tea/water/non-alcoholic beverages for free - donations are welcome as always. 
Also possible spot where people can get coins?
* [https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Projects:Coffee:_Ada%27s_Cafe CCCamp Project Page]

h1kar1 and sharebrained have state on how we did espresso in 2019. It involved a rented machine and some improvised plumbing to run it from bottled water.

People maybe interested in doing 
* fellmoon?
* snoopy?
* h1kari?
* superq?
* willscott?
* [[User:Ljrk]]

=== Accept cryptocurrency ===

This was tried in a halfass way long ago at a congress, but nobody opted to pay this way. Software has changed in the decade since then.

* Bitcoin and Ethereum both have L2 networks (Lightning and zkSync) that lower transaction fees and settle in <10min. At congress in ~2018 or so, a vendor was selling coffee via bitcoin lightning to prove the value of L2. Normally fees would be high compared to the price of a coffee, and the chain would take much longer to commit than it takes to make the coffee, but L2 solves this.
* Ethereum no longer has any weather veganism issues because of proof-of-stake, and
* there are many aggressively-funded slick closed source phone apps (for better or worse).
* Also Monero, a privacy preserving cryptocurrency, with real FLOSS & cypherpunk ethos.

We could make a comforting point-of-sale system installed on a physical device that stays in Ada Cafe that can display a per-purchase QR code. This is not to sell espresso, which would still be free, but for donations.

People maybe interested in doing 
* carton
* [[User:don|trimetilo]] (Interested in exploring the feasibility of using an Ethereum L2).
* [[User:Cobolt]] (Could be willing to act as a currency converter from BTC to EUR/GBP/USD if this is required)
* **vdo** (Monero PoS)

=== Mail to Jail - Imprisoned Hacker Support ===
Idea: mc.fly / fem

sadly many among community have been in the predicament when they needed legal advice and some did indeed ended up in the mass system of control some call prison system. "mail to jail" is a solidarity and support network that ran for years by various fractions of "teh intervewbz".

at camp we will crate original art postcards/stickers with support of creative team, print and ship all out by the end of camp. any ideas are welcome re what else could be done, just note there are restrictions to mail that varies from prison to prison.
- it would also be nice if perhaps some books would be sent-out that are on bookmail list, for example for Jeremy Hammond
- adding QR codes to design for individual support networks? (perhaps for stickers as "gov" may be upset re codes on postcards).
All Cats Are Beautiful and Ada Colau Alcaldesa Barcelona

=== Hammock Forrest ===

Idea: [[User:Hanemile]]

Seen the hammock things with one center pole and a lot of side poles spanning the hammocks in a sort of star form? Well let's do this, but at another scale by adding some more.

* What we'd need:
** A lot of hammocks
** A lot of wood (to build frames)